BiblePay - New Coin Launch - Official Thread

[seeksilence]

Thanks for the explanation. So it basically favor mid side cpu? I will reduce the thread to see what will happen.

Only the shares count for the earning, am I right?

Also can I use one worker for two computers in the pool?

[bible_pay]

Thanks for the explanation. So it basically favor mid side cpu? I will reduce the thread to see what will happen.

Only the shares count for the earning, am I right?

Also can I use one worker for two computers in the pool?

Yes, ironically we had a rocky start where the Ryzens and the Xeons were killing the small procs, and unintentionally, the mid-level CPUs seem to be winning now.  You can now point multiple CPUs to one workerID and the HashPerSec2 will reflect both.  Its probably better to start out keeping all workerids separate so you can see what you hashpersec2 reading starts out as.

[bible_pay]

TestNet is almost ready to test Block Chain news, One click mining configuration, and NaNas feature. 

Ill follow up tomorrow with release info.

[emdes]

Thanks for the explanation. So it basically favor mid side cpu? I will reduce the thread to see what will happen.

Only the shares count for the earning, am I right?

Also can I use one worker for two computers in the pool?

Yes, ironically we had a rocky start where the Ryzens and the Xeons were killing the small procs, and unintentionally, the mid-level CPUs seem to be winning now.  You can now point multiple CPUs to one workerID and the HashPerSec2 will reflect both.  Its probably better to start out keeping all workerids separate so you can see what you hashpersec2 reading starts out as.

10 year old 4cores better than a new 8core ryzen 

[seeksilence]

Just check the leaderboard:

HPS         HPS2       Shares
22749.38    35995.53   83
150617.87   34167.42   77
22809.53    32594.31   75
59652.37    32352.97   75

22k get similar HPS2 with 150k HPS. Will they get similar earning? What kind of machine do you use, inblue?
Is the fast cpu solve hard share with high difficulty but get less share weight comparing with middle level cpu? So better to use a middle level cpu.

[emdes]

Just check the leaderboard:

HPS         HPS2       Shares
22749.38    35995.53   83
150617.87   34167.42   77
22809.53    32594.31   75
59652.37    32352.97   75

22k get similar HPS2 with 150k HPS. Will they get similar earning? What kind of machine do you use, inblue?
Is the fast cpu solve hard share with high difficulty but get less share weight comparing with middle level cpu? So better to use a middle level cpu.

Would it be better to solo with the 150k VS the 22k ? Would it find a block 6 times faster than the 22k ?

[bible_pay]

Thanks for the explanation. So it basically favor mid side cpu? I will reduce the thread to see what will happen.

Only the shares count for the earning, am I right?

Also can I use one worker for two computers in the pool?

Yes, ironically we had a rocky start where the Ryzens and the Xeons were killing the small procs, and unintentionally, the mid-level CPUs seem to be winning now.  You can now point multiple CPUs to one workerID and the HashPerSec2 will reflect both.  Its probably better to start out keeping all workerids separate so you can see what you hashpersec2 reading starts out as.

10 year old 4cores better than a new 8core ryzen 

I doubt it, ensure you were mining on both for a few hours and then post the HPS2 here from both test subjects.

[oliwer21]

Thanks for the explanation. So it basically favor mid side cpu? I will reduce the thread to see what will happen.

Only the shares count for the earning, am I right?

Also can I use one worker for two computers in the pool?

Yes, ironically we had a rocky start where the Ryzens and the Xeons were killing the small procs, and unintentionally, the mid-level CPUs seem to be winning now.  You can now point multiple CPUs to one workerID and the HashPerSec2 will reflect both.  Its probably better to start out keeping all workerids separate so you can see what you hashpersec2 reading starts out as.

10 year old 4cores better than a new 8core ryzen 

I doubt it, ensure you were mining on both for a few hours and then post the HPS2 here from both test subjects.

He is minning like this for about 2 weeks... he know what he is wiriting. He even post his results earlier...

[bible_pay]

He is minning like this for about 2 weeks... he know what he is wiriting. He even post his results earlier...

Sorry but if you want to 'blabber' things you will be ignored.

Try to compliment the community in a positive way, and offer to volunteer for things in the future, otherwise you are probably in the wrong place.

[bible_pay]

Alright so block chain news is being released now in its infancy in testnet,  to test, please head over to this Testnet forum:

http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=14.msg83#msg83

Note that in the description there is also a wiki page I created that attempts to explain the feature.

[616westwarmoth]

Alright so block chain news is being released now in its infancy in testnet,  to test, please head over to this Testnet forum:

http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=14.msg83#msg83

Note that in the description there is also a wiki page I created that attempts to explain the feature.

That's pretty impressive!  The page is well written.  I would suggest that for an easy start, we use a few of the major documents (like Win and Linux install and the Whitepaper) as tests.  One question, are the articles editable? 

[oliwer21]

He is minning like this for about 2 weeks... he know what he is wiriting. He even post his results earlier...

Sorry but if you want to 'blabber' things you will be ignored.

Try to compliment the community in a positive way, and offer to volunteer for things in the future, otherwise you are probably in the wrong place.

WHAT? i  just wrote, what he posted few days ago and how you wrote in "positive way" he was "ignored"
and pls explain me, what i wrote in that post that you saying that i'm 'blabbing'?

Edit:
You "ignoring" me since i posted my results of hps2 on ryzen(threads and os) and even after few post to get info you  don't bother to answer. Other users did... so i don't know how you can "ignore" me more

[bible_pay]

Alright so block chain news is being released now in its infancy in testnet,  to test, please head over to this Testnet forum:

http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=14.msg83#msg83

Note that in the description there is also a wiki page I created that attempts to explain the feature.

That's pretty impressive!  The page is well written.  I would suggest that for an easy start, we use a few of the major documents (like Win and Linux install and the Whitepaper) as tests.  One question, are the articles editable? 

Yeah, its kind of funny you mention that, as if we for example were to take one of Togos guides, like how to mine biblepay on linux for example, and make it a news article, then we end up with a TXID pointer with the capability to view the article from the wallet.  That means we inadvertently created a cool feature- like a built in Help Guide, or Wiki Reader.  We could actually make a table of contents in the wallet very easily and point to some of those Help Guides.  That would help users get started and give us more VAR.  Good idea.

As far as editing, here is the thing, while you are in the process of creating an article, you can edit and preview as many times as you want.  When you publish an article it becomes a Permanet part of the blockchain after you pay the fee.  So no there is no Edit capability yet.  However, if you are referring to the ability to make something better that is already published, we definitely can make an Edit option that basically sends a "D"elete command into the chain for a prior version, and an "A"dd.  Then we make the news weblist respect deleted or edited articles.  So yes, that sounds like a valuable thing also.  I could see a person wanting the ability to Improve someone elses guide for example.  Or, when static things change, say we are using Slimepay for example for our debit cards and we find the owner was arrested and we decide to go to another company, then we could actally edit the provider name in the guide.  Its nice because the fees go to help orphans- they go to the orphan foundation.

Guys, feel free to go to the other forum so we can start testing now.  I will be installing the "mod" soon that alows you to receive email updates when new posts are posted.

[616westwarmoth]

I've got plenty of BBP on the Testnet.  I'll start working on a few things in the next couple days.  One issue to consider on new is copyright.  So for now, I would suggest self contained help articles and the like should be the goal, with a bit of time to determine what exactly "fair use" can be held.  Also, since the block chain is immutable, some sort of vetting will be critical.

Sorry to be so quiet the last few days, been a rough week here.

[bible_pay]

I've got plenty of BBP on the Testnet.  I'll start working on a few things in the next couple days.  One issue to consider on new is copyright.  So for now, I would suggest self contained help articles and the like should be the goal, with a bit of time to determine what exactly "fair use" can be held.  Also, since the block chain is immutable, some sort of vetting will be critical.

Sorry to be so quiet the last few days, been a rough week here.

Yeah, go ahead and find out how copyright will work, Im sure there must be a way to legally create news articles that are picked up by multiple stations.  For one we would encourage paraphrasing and original non copyrighted images.

As far as immutable, we will eventually have upvote/downvote, and we charge a fee for publishing.  If it ever becomes a problem we could potentially make an escrow requirement, and "spend" the escrow if someone posts something very negative (like walls of swear words as an article).

[noloco]

Is the database on pool2 overwriting pool?

I mined some thousands on pool (created two workers id) and then created an account on pool2. same user (used another mail to pass registration mail error), new ids on pool2 were ok but ids created on pool failed with no error. Pool showed balance correctly and stats for two workers.

Currently I can only see the worker id created on pool2 on both pools, balance=0 on both pools. In leader board I can see the workers created initially on pool but not in stats or elsewhere. If I try to recreate the ids from pool I get no error and only ids created on pool2 listed.

Total Balance:   0
Immature Balance:   0

Leaderboard

sanctipatris   damocles2   94896.23   29076.19   67   9/24/2017 2:31:33 PM
sanctipatris   damocles1   6295.21   8438.39   19   9/24/2017 2:30:47 PM

Workers>List
Worker List       
User Name       HPS       Notes       Added   
damocles0   0      9/20/2017 6:54:46 AM

Block distribution

sanctipatris   9121   15089.0000   77.6936   9/24/2017 2:44:00 PM   36230.43   0.00221075168494068   9/24/2017 2:43:44 PM

Two account with same name but different data syncing badly?

[bible_pay]

Is the database on pool2 overwriting pool?

I mined some thousands on pool (created two workers id) and then created an account on pool2. same user (used another mail to pass registration mail error), new ids on pool2 were ok but ids created on pool failed with no error. Pool showed balance correctly and stats for two workers.

Currently I can only see the worker id created on pool2 on both pools, balance=0 on both pools. In leader board I can see the workers created initially on pool but not in stats or elsewhere. If I try to recreate the ids from pool I get no error and only ids created on pool2 listed.

Total Balance:   0
Immature Balance:   0

Leaderboard

sanctipatris   damocles2   94896.23   29076.19   67   9/24/2017 2:31:33 PM
sanctipatris   damocles1   6295.21   8438.39   19   9/24/2017 2:30:47 PM

Workers>List
Worker List       
User Name       HPS       Notes       Added   
damocles0   0      9/20/2017 6:54:46 AM

Block distribution

sanctipatris   9121   15089.0000   77.6936   9/24/2017 2:44:00 PM   36230.43   0.00221075168494068   9/24/2017 2:43:44 PM

Two account with same name but different data syncing badly?

The both of the web pools actually share the same database server; so you are technically not allowed to create a user on pool2 with the same username.

Just go ahead and use it, and tell me if you see anyting wrong with your HPS2.

Everything has been fine for a solid week now, looking good.

[emdes]

Thanks for the explanation. So it basically favor mid side cpu? I will reduce the thread to see what will happen.

Only the shares count for the earning, am I right?

Also can I use one worker for two computers in the pool?

Yes, ironically we had a rocky start where the Ryzens and the Xeons were killing the small procs, and unintentionally, the mid-level CPUs seem to be winning now.  You can now point multiple CPUs to one workerID and the HashPerSec2 will reflect both.  Its probably better to start out keeping all workerids separate so you can see what you hashpersec2 reading starts out as.

10 year old 4cores better than a new 8core ryzen 

I doubt it, ensure you were mining on both for a few hours and then post the HPS2 here from both test subjects.

loot   loot_x4   23735.33   22137.79   49   9/24/2017 5:01:07 PM <- Ryzen 1700x @ 3400mhz
loot   loot_x2   17155.16   20658.28   48   9/24/2017 5:00:40 PM <- AMD 965BE @ 2900mhz

YES, Ryzen still running at 35% load. Like I told you weeks ago. NO, im not switching to linux   

[1oojke]

I've got plenty of BBP on the Testnet.  I'll start working on a few things in the next couple days.  One issue to consider on new is copyright.  So for now, I would suggest self contained help articles and the like should be the goal, with a bit of time to determine what exactly "fair use" can be held.  Also, since the block chain is immutable, some sort of vetting will be critical.

Sorry to be so quiet the last few days, been a rough week here.

Yeah, go ahead and find out how copyright will work, Im sure there must be a way to legally create news articles that are picked up by multiple stations.  For one we would encourage paraphrasing and original non copyrighted images.

As far as immutable, we will eventually have upvote/downvote, and we charge a fee for publishing.  If it ever becomes a problem we could potentially make an escrow requirement, and "spend" the escrow if someone posts something very negative (like walls of swear words as an article).

Hi dev and comunity, reading about this upvote/downvote feature got me thinking about the letter writing to orphans. Maybe we should prioritize integrating the process of letter writing and approving in the wallet itself? Currently it is only being done in the pool, and I think that people just never go to that section and are not even aware of this feature.
I am new to the project, so I haven't went through the code, but maybe writing letters could be implemented as a special kind of "news article" that will also go in the block chain and be voted on in the wallet itself (and then automatically sent if approved).

Even thou i like the new news article feature, frankly I think that we are kind of behind with the letter writing to the orphans we sponsor and we should probably think about how to make it easier for an average user to do it. Here, I am just giving and idea how we may reuse this new feature for this purpose. After all we are a charitable community in the first place.

All the best to fellow biblers.

[oliwer21]

25k HPS on wallet 1.0.4.0 but unfortunately my HPS2 on pool droped to 9k from 18k(few hours of testing). It's my record but in bad meaning of this word, 25k HPS was way much more than other rigs with 9k HPS2 on leaderboard.
Strange is that my best HPS on win 10 wallet was when i set 4 threads, when i set more threads i have less hps. But more HPS2 on pool...
Now windows wallet 1.0.4.0 have same "penformance bug" like version after 7000 block or it looks like that(same cpu usage graph in task menager, more stable but with worse perf.). it looks that HPS is not connected to HPS2. Maybe HPS is bad reported on debug console on ryzens?
On ryzens 7 on windows 10 the best HPS2 you will get on 30-40% of cpu usage, all above will drag your HPS2 down(tested on 2 difrent computers).
One more thing if someone want to test new wallet from the site(still don't know what ver it is) and don't have backup of old wallet he don't have how to restore "better" wallet(minner) it could be link on bbp forum to all ver from last madatory upgrade.

To be clear it's not "atack" on devs.. these are only my observations of new ver. of wallet witch you can download from site and it "may" help?