[ANN][ZEN] Horizen: Unbounded By Design

[cryptothreads]

"Looking forward to a livestream hangout question and answer in 90 minutes with OJ Jordan" Rolf Versluis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFBTcSuKlk&feature=youtu.be

In the past time, you have been actively giving new information to everyone. Personally I believe ZEN is one of the interesting coins because the supply of ZEN is very little and we can expect a higher price. For me ZEN may soon reach $ 1000 this year because ZEN always has a strategy to develop very well and look forward to the long-term cooperation of financial institutions.

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[dubignyp]

"Looking forward to a livestream hangout question and answer in 90 minutes with OJ Jordan" Rolf Versluis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFBTcSuKlk&feature=youtu.be

In the past time, you have been actively giving new information to everyone. Personally I believe ZEN is one of the interesting coins because the supply of ZEN is very little and we can expect a higher price. For me ZEN may soon reach $ 1000 this year because ZEN always has a strategy to develop very well and look forward to the long-term cooperation of financial institutions.

I feel like I'm seeing a lot of showmanship and publicity to incite. To get to $1,000 is a number you put by chance, it shows. If you knew a little better the crypto, the 1000 dollars must that the BTC largely exceeds 20K.

[MedaR]

What's ZenCash team point of view on the new Antminer Z9 mini Equihash miner (10,000 Sol/s  @  300w for 1,999 USD )

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180503154806494uGcSyiu806FD

We are monitoring and evaluation next steps. We don't have an official statement at this moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFBTcSuKlk&t=550s
Start watching this video at 36th minute, Rolf did really good clarifications...

[MedaR]

I feel like I'm seeing a lot of showmanship and publicity to incite. To get to $1,000 is a number you put by chance, it shows. If you knew a little better the crypto, the 1000 dollars must that the BTC largely exceeds 20K.

We are not blinded with value in Dollars, we really trying to create something really useful. And if you go back through pages you will only find informations about progress and future plans..There is no much talk about paper money. Value of Zen will increase how project grows, as seen in previous period.

[lordoflag]

Will Zen Cash fork in response to the Bitmain ASIC?

10k sols for 2k$$

I think that works about to 8k$$ worth of 1060s to get that many sols, pretty much will push equihash coins to ASIC only if it the Miner is uncontested with a fork.

[MedaR]

Will Zen Cash fork in response to the Bitmain ASIC?

10k sols for 2k$$

I think that works about to 8k$$ worth of 1060s to get that many sols, pretty much will push equihash coins to ASIC only if it the Miner is uncontested with a fork.

What's ZenCash team point of view on the new Antminer Z9 mini Equihash miner (10,000 Sol/s  @  300w for 1,999 USD )

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180503154806494uGcSyiu806FD

We are monitoring and evaluation next steps. We don't have an official statement at this moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFBTcSuKlk&t=550s
Start watching this video at 36th minute, Rolf did really good clarifications...

[darsiderin]

I feel like I'm seeing a lot of showmanship and publicity to incite. To get to $1,000 is a number you put by chance, it shows. If you knew a little better the crypto, the 1000 dollars must that the BTC largely exceeds 20K.

We are not blinded with value in Dollars, we really trying to create something really useful. And if you go back through pages you will only find informations about progress and future plans..There is no much talk about paper money. Value of Zen will increase how project grows, as seen in previous period.

This is the most correct and noble goal - to make a useful product, and as a result - to give our children a little better world. This is the most important goal, and I am glad that ZenCash is moving along this way.

[peteycamey]

Monero BTG and Zclassic declared war on centralized ASICs.

Whats your status on this issue?

[z0n0]

Monero BTG and Zclassic declared war on centralized ASICs.

Whats your status on this issue?

Looking forward hearing some official statement.
I believe the (ZEN) community is against ASICs and would like a fork...

[Morbid]

Zencash SOLO mining "pool"
https://truepools.zone

Features

• Solo mining
• Full stratum support
• Workers statistics - monitor each rig separately
• Compatible with Nicehash & MiningRigRentals
• Efficient mining engine
• We pay transaction fees
• Unique payout scheme

Now 0% pool fee until 4th of July!

Connection Details

Server: zen.truepools.zone
Ports: 11220 - Norm Diff, 11230 - High Diff
User: [Your Wallet].[Worker Name]
Password: x

been minig on it for 5 days now & still no payment..

[MedaR]

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been minig on it for 5 days now & still no payment..

I will check about this on discord channel with other miners.

[MedaR]

Looking forward hearing some official statement.
I believe the (ZEN) community is against ASICs and would like a fork...

Monero BTG and Zclassic declared war on centralized ASICs.

Whats your status on this issue?

So far there is no official statement on this topic. Team evaluating situation.

[dubignyp]

I feel like I'm seeing a lot of showmanship and publicity to incite. To get to $1,000 is a number you put by chance, it shows. If you knew a little better the crypto, the 1000 dollars must that the BTC largely exceeds 20K.

We are not blinded with value in Dollars, we really trying to create something really useful. And if you go back through pages you will only find informations about progress and future plans..There is no much talk about paper money. Value of Zen will increase how project grows, as seen in previous period.

This is the most correct and noble goal - to make a useful product, and as a result - to give our children a little better world. This is the most important goal, and I am glad that ZenCash is moving along this way.

ZENCASH do many things that it already exists on other crypto. I don't see much new. As the decentralized uPort blockchain application for data and identity. Or like the decentralized Woleet blockchain application for folders, which also installs in the LEDGER to confirm the identity of folders. As cryptonote that already make encrypted messages under payment by their token.
And I see all the blockchain sites that proclaim themselves the best anonymous. We know the publicity, we need to soften the sentences. There's nothing to celebrate.

[MedaR]

ZENCASH do many things that it already exists on other crypto. I don't see much new. As the decentralized uPort blockchain application for data and identity. Or like the decentralized Woleet blockchain application for folders, which also installs in the LEDGER to confirm the identity of folders. As cryptonote that already make encrypted messages under payment by their token.
And I see all the blockchain sites that proclaim themselves the best anonymous. We know the publicity, we need to soften the sentences. There's nothing to celebrate.

ZenCash is collection of products and services..We are not focused only on private transactions..

ZenCash have 10k Secure Nodes online and most decentralized and resilient network and this is fact. Those are not ordinary nodes. They have specific hardware and security requirements. All comunication between nodes, wallet and nodes is crypted.

Super Nodes will encircle this story :

The two major improvements Super Nodes bring are to transition tracking and payments on-chain, or within protocol, a major change from the current system where such functions are executed on external server clusters; and the introduction of sidechaining elevates the ZenCash system from a pure cryptocurrency to a platform on which an unbounded set of services can be built. The value proposition of the system then becomes more than the utility of the currency, but now includes the utility of all future services that will be layered onto our infrastructure. A small sampling of such services which are already in planning include a distributed file storage system (ZenPub), a secure messaging system (ZenChat), a computation-for-rent system akin to AWS’s Lambda Functions (ZenGrid), zero-delay payments (InstantZen), and a decentralized exchange (ZenXchange) with a fully-collateralized price-stable asset called ZenUSD (USDZ).

[ivankotovic56]

without doubt anonymity is a boon for all foreign exchange traders, I'm more interested in how they react to the anonymity of the countries that are fighting with blokchain precisely for this reason, in a number of countries you will not be allowed to exist

[MedaR]

ASIC resistance discussion started in Github. There is no emergency. The blockchain works, mining with GPU's is still profitable, and no short term risks of a fork by Bitmain running many Z3's. We have time to talk about this before deciding what to do

Rolf Versluis

https://twitter.com/RolfVersluis/status/992130841299050496

This new miner is either an FPGA with on board RAM (quite likely) or a full blown ASIC with some kind of very fancy (and expensive) linked memory module.
If it's an FPGA we're dealing with, finding an algorithm that you couldn't just reprogram the FPGA to mine will be extremely difficult. If it's an ASIC, the task of creating some kind of incompatibility by modifying or switching algo's would obviously be considerably easier.

Problem is, we have no technical specs for the Z9 so we could potentially put a load of effort into something that would only take a few days to reconfigure the Z9 to mine...

So I think we should spend some time trying to figure out what we're actually up against before trying to formulate a plan.

Rowan Stone

https://github.com/ZencashOfficial/zen/issues/142

[MedaR]

without doubt anonymity is a boon for all foreign exchange traders, I'm more interested in how they react to the anonymity of the countries that are fighting with blokchain precisely for this reason, in a number of countries you will not be allowed to exist

ZenHide


Domain fronting is a versatile censorship circumvention technique that hides the remote endpoint of a communication.
It works at the application layer, using HTTPS, to communicate with a forbidden host while appearing to communicate with some other host, permitted by the censor.

The key idea is the use of different domain names at different layers of communication. One domain appears on the “outside” of an HTTPS request–in the 9 DNS request and TLS Server Name Indication, while another domain appears on the “inside”–in the HTTP Host header, invisible to the censor under HTTPS encryption. A censor, unable to distinguish fronted and non-fronted traffic to a domain, must choose between allowing circumvention traffic and blocking the domain entirely, which results in expensive collateral damage.

Domain fronting does not require special cooperation by network intermediaries. We identify a number of hard-to-block web services, such as content delivery networks, that support domain-fronted connections and are useful for censorship circumvention.

[gozcominer]

very interesting company, the scope of which will attract all of its users. I'm sure the company will achieve great results! Good luck to the whole team

[dubignyp]

without doubt anonymity is a boon for all foreign exchange traders, I'm more interested in how they react to the anonymity of the countries that are fighting with blokchain precisely for this reason, in a number of countries you will not be allowed to exist

Things will indeed change and those who are too anonymous will be excluded sooner or later. Or anonymous in public, but not before the courts and the authorities.

I see advertising arguments like Verge who bragged on the forum to inflate the price of the crypto. And, that's not good. Each in turn, but it is a mistake to ignore and counter argue that other crypto are already doing what Zencash is doing in their future. Of course, there will be several competitions and everyone will get away with it. Because we need several competitors, like stores. The world needs many who do the same thing and that is holy. Some shoe stores sell better quality than other shoe stores, the importance is that there is a choice of several stores. We know advertising "we are the best", "we have the most efficient tools", etc.... these sentences are to take him lightly and not see him as a hero.
I don't really understand why we come to argue against it, when it's beneficial to see several crypto do the same thing.
And each competitor will have a more efficient feature, from where Zencash interests me on such interesting feature.

[CryptoWaffle]

What's ZenCash team point of view on the new Antminer Z9 mini Equihash miner (10,000 Sol/s  @  300w for 1,999 USD )

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180503154806494uGcSyiu806FD

We are monitoring and evaluation next steps. We don't have an official statement at this moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFBTcSuKlk&t=550s
Start watching this video at 36th minute, Rolf did really good clarifications...

wow, that was both sad and pathetic. What a coward...

XMR did the right thing and I just dont understand why ZEN wont do the same thing.