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I started with faucet to get a feel of the game. I was new to dicing until I came to play at primedice so the faucet is how I learned to play. I went from freeloading the faucet to wagering 550+ BTC.
I am a regular on Primedice and deposit a few times per week, but in between those deposit I depend on the faucet to have fun. What will we do while waiting for a deposit that can take more than an hour?
Faucet, leveling up, and tips is what keeps me coming back to this site. Everything factors into the user experience and these things is what keeps people hook on your site.
If another dice site copys you and open up a faucet, they will take away 70-80% of your regular customers.
Stunna, if you value the user experience and the "fun" factor to the game, please leave faucet as is.
This is really well put and I think EarthBound is probably the "happy model" for what you expected from the faucet. End faucet abuse and the support spam that goes with it, not the faucet. Thanks for Primedice!
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October 12, 2014, 10:03:31 PM |
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please don't take away our faucet.... just kill all cheaters instead!!!
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YosemittySAM
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October 12, 2014, 10:03:55 PM |
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Yeah Earthbound is probably right.  There are plenty of people on primedice who work hard claiming from multiple faucets and try to double it, and cannot because there are pickles who abuse the PD faucet. Remove the faucet on PD get professional. Tip:yogi
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October 12, 2014, 10:06:35 PM |
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I started with faucet to get a feel of the game. I was new to dicing until I came to play at primedice so the faucet is how I learned to play. I went from freeloading the faucet to wagering 550+ BTC.
I am a regular on Primedice and deposit a few times per week, but in between those deposit I depend on the faucet to have fun. What will we do while waiting for a deposit that can take more than an hour?
Faucet, leveling up, and tips is what keeps me coming back to this site. Everything factors into the user experience and these things is what keeps people hook on your site.
If another dice site copys you and open up a faucet, they will take away 70-80% of your regular customers.
Stunna, if you value the user experience and the "fun" factor to the game, please leave faucet as is.
This is really well put and I think EarthBound is probably the "happy model" for what you expected from the faucet. End faucet abuse and the support spam that goes with it, not the faucet. Thanks for Primedice! If the issue is "support spam" ending faucet altogether is only going to cause more emails to support, from new members AND old members. If you want the faucet farming to stop, allow mods to mute anyone they suspect farming, only allow new members to claim once or twice a day, and tell support to suck it up and deal with it. That's their job anyway isn't it? To deal with support emails? I would assume they get paid, the mods deal with just as much, if not MORE complaints than support does, I guarantee it. And you don't see mods getting paid do you? And I don't think I have seen a mod complain not one time dealing with those individuals complaining about faucet changes.
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Stunna (OP)
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October 12, 2014, 10:08:10 PM |
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I started with faucet to get a feel of the game. I was new to dicing until I came to play at primedice so the faucet is how I learned to play. I went from freeloading the faucet to wagering 550+ BTC.
I am a regular on Primedice and deposit a few times per week, but in between those deposit I depend on the faucet to have fun. What will we do while waiting for a deposit that can take more than an hour?
Faucet, leveling up, and tips is what keeps me coming back to this site. Everything factors into the user experience and these things is what keeps people hook on your site.
If another dice site copys you and open up a faucet, they will take away 70-80% of your regular customers.
Stunna, if you value the user experience and the "fun" factor to the game, please leave faucet as is.
This is really well put and I think EarthBound is probably the "happy model" for what you expected from the faucet. End faucet abuse and the support spam that goes with it, not the faucet. Thanks for Primedice! There probably are plenty of best case scenarios but the faucet is what causes the majority of spam on the website and account level farming/sales. How about an alternative that still rewards leveling up but in a less spammy and more difficult to game way?
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October 12, 2014, 10:09:51 PM |
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I got bit nostalgic about faucet.
If it wasn't for faucet i probably wouldn't be here today.
Primedice faucet and community is what got me started. And about year later im mod on pd and earning 1+ btc per month .
But this is also a business , if faucet is costing to much and causing to much problems for support , well got to do what u got to do.
Great thing is that Stunna is asking for community to give suggestions , to say what it has to say , and maybe give solution. And im sure we can come up with some compromise that will benefit everybody.
I don't use faucet anymore but it got me started long time ago. So i can understand people that rly doesn't want it to be removed.
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October 12, 2014, 10:13:02 PM |
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bring back the .0001 faucet for everyone !!!! problem solved!!! 
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danksheeet
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October 12, 2014, 10:15:03 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
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Seketsuna
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October 12, 2014, 10:17:05 PM |
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Its time to say goodbye to your faucets and thats enough charity/generosity PD have been doing.
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Stunna (OP)
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October 12, 2014, 10:18:45 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
Whitelist accounts were auctioned off publicly, half the whitelist were botters.
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danksheeet
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October 12, 2014, 10:19:38 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
Whitelist accounts were auctioned off publicly, half the whitelist were botters. o ya forgot about that
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YosemittySAM
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October 12, 2014, 10:23:34 PM |
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not even giving us bits. we get .00000001 of a penny like that is anything to blink at. Fuck it, it is the governments way of reminding us they have control over us, and we're allowing it. Primedice will do whatever they want anyay.
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October 12, 2014, 10:27:14 PM |
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As I was saying, removing faucet completely is a bad move, totally going to lose like half of the players you currently have to sites that still offer faucets.
Simple solution: Active members faucets remain the same, new comers have 1-2 claims per day so they are allowed to "test" the site, tell support to deal with the emails because that's their job, that's what they get paid to do. Not like they are urgently replying to emails anyway.
Just my 2 cents.
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MICRO
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October 12, 2014, 10:28:02 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
Whitelist accounts were auctioned off publicly, half the whitelist were botters. o ya forgot about that And as i said it was to subjective . We could give it to anybody who doesn't deserve it , or not give to somebody that deserves it but we don't like him. It wasn't good system.
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October 12, 2014, 10:35:13 PM |
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There probably are plenty of best case scenarios but the faucet is what causes the majority of spam on the website and account level farming/sales. How about an alternative that still rewards leveling up but in a less spammy and more difficult to game way?
ok this might sound a bit ridiculous, but bear with me. how about implementing a new feature called faucet points or something like that, 1 point for 1 faucet. we get 1 point for every 50k (or something) that we gambled starting from 1btc (or something). there you go
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Anony
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October 12, 2014, 11:22:35 PM |
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Don't sacrifice the players enjoyment over "I can't read all these damn emails!!!".
Is adding more support an option? One who only deals with faucet/chat/stupid problems. I will volunteer.
Yeah seriously, isn't it their job in the first place to deal with all the emails anyway? I would assume they get paid? Mods deal with the exact same thing as support only without pay, and I don't see any of them complaining.
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danksheeet
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October 12, 2014, 11:33:59 PM |
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ok then what about "support tickets" like you open a support ticket on the site and provide your email to them to respond to. and just have it set up with a required subject field with a dropbox of options like "missing deposit" "faucet" "missing cashout" "other" so that way support could filter out all the emails about faucet
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Reynaldo
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October 12, 2014, 11:35:18 PM |
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I could contribute with the support emails..
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galbros
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October 12, 2014, 11:38:41 PM |
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bringing back whitelist would solve this problem
Whitelist accounts were auctioned off publicly, half the whitelist were botters. What about making it not be a permanent whitelist? If mods see accounts sold (and you think that is an abuse) or you think they are botters take them off the whitelist? I'm actually amazed more accounts are not sold, but that is a different issue. We keep coming back to the problem that it is not the faucet per se but the abuse of it. Sure a whitelist may be subjective, so what, there is no substitute for human judgement. Use that to stop abuse, especially since abuse is so hard to define in advance. I think you've taken a lot of intermediate steps that have improved things and I'm all for a "less spammy and gameable" system, maybe you'll get a better discussion on here if you layout some specific ideas? Set up a cool poll or something. I think this is a hard thing though, if any system like that was obvious you or some other dice operator would have tried it already. Thanks again for discussing it and for PrimeDice!
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October 12, 2014, 11:43:26 PM |
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I think faucet should remain to prevent disappointment & unhappiness of the Majority . As from my POV . more & more so call " freeloaders & beggars " including spam chat "bot" are increasing in the chat community even tho without faucet , due to generous & huge amount of tippings "rains" going on either by other users & your "Mod" . My suggestions : 1) tips at min 10k (as b4) , due to current tips 50k above most "beggars" gets the tip & withdraw . 2) min 1 deposit from user 3) min withdrawal set 0.005 ~ 0.01 4) tips from users ( voluntary ) to funding foundation *** set a user name for it 
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