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October 21, 2014, 04:40:55 PM
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We just rolled out some tiny changes.

Changelog:

 * Autobet: Stop @ Loss/Win removed. Many users didn't understand it was per session and some people were losing much more than they anticipated as the system stops at that loss or greater, so let's say you made a few coins but were using a 100% multiplier it would potentially be possible to do a 20BTC bet with a 0.01 stoploss and end negative 15+ despite that stoploss. This isn't really an unintended error as the system is designed to stop at the defined loss or greater but many users were utilizing this with massive amounts and losing more than anticipated when not watching closely.

Yeah right  Roll Eyes

Yes, right. Ask Ch1cken something idk his exact username.

Perhaps the stop-loss should stop before it's about to make a bet crossing the limit. The way it worked is that the last bet before the limit still goes through, and then the betting stops only after it had "crossed the line" -- this is what happened to chicken. A massive bet just before the limit decimated his stash.

Can this be fixed and restored?


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October 21, 2014, 04:48:35 PM
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Couldn't he just edit the stop loss before taking the picture to make it seem like he lost?
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October 21, 2014, 04:55:40 PM
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Why is he mentioning me as a mod online lol? I'm not involved at all, I just moderate chat. Unless he wants me to confirm the bets took place, which they did, but the screenshots already show that.

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October 21, 2014, 04:57:44 PM
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We just rolled out some tiny changes.

Changelog:

 * Autobet: Stop @ Loss/Win removed. Many users didn't understand it was per session and some people were losing much more than they anticipated as the system stops at that loss or greater, so let's say you made a few coins but were using a 100% multiplier it would potentially be possible to do a 20BTC bet with a 0.01 stoploss and end negative 15+ despite that stoploss. This isn't really an unintended error as the system is designed to stop at the defined loss or greater but many users were utilizing this with massive amounts and losing more than anticipated when not watching closely.

Yeah right  Roll Eyes

How is it possible to do a 20BTC bet with 100% increase and a 0.01 stop loss ?  Last time I checked 2 * 0.01 = 0.02 and that's where it should stop. You guys either changed the way it works without notifying anyone, or it was just lazy coding. Either way it's plain and simply your fault. Funny how the stop profit will stop in negative because it counts total profit from that autobet session. Yet a bet with loss multiplier & 0.01 stop loss can magically go up to 9BTC. I call bullshit. If it worked the way it was supposed to you wouldn't have even removed it. It's called a fucking tooltip or note..  

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October 21, 2014, 04:57:58 PM
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You wanna solve all the issues about faucet? raise withdraw minimum to 100K, raise transfer minimum to 80001.
People who complain about faucet problems are just wannabe-rich with martingale method.
I would create a several mails organized for kind of issues.
something like: faucetissue@ etc etc. You will notice that are mostly with the problem of "blablabla too much time between each captcha" "blablabla it's too low".
And answer with an automatic message saying: "Sorry for your issue faced, but we are not a charity website, we let you play the game for free to try it before depositing and you complain about it? Then go elsewhere"

I don't know but, the timing between each captcha is ok, size of the faucet is also ok, there is people who is building a good reputation on the website. Stunna, you studied a method for understanding the issue of the "low" faucet.
If you remember I seen your website evolving from the born to nowadays, so I know what I'm talking about.
Removing the faucet will have a negative impact on it, because it will look less attractive to newcomers.
If the faucet will be removed, you will see alot of prerolls, and be "just for fun".
Whales will still be there of course.
1)Without faucet:
-Stop of bots
-Less beggars
-Less spam
-Less need of moderators

2)With faucet + increased limit of withdraw + (optional) reduced xp from chatting
-Less bots
-Same size of beggars
-Less spam
-Same size of moderators

Thats my opinion.

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October 21, 2014, 05:00:27 PM
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I can translate Prime Dice into cat language.  The are many cats in PD chat.  They are jumping (martingaling), chasing (losses), purring (winning), hissing (not winning) and have eyes that glow (to detect skipped nonces).
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October 21, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
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We just rolled out some tiny changes.

Changelog:

 * Autobet: Stop @ Loss/Win removed. Many users didn't understand it was per session and some people were losing much more than they anticipated as the system stops at that loss or greater, so let's say you made a few coins but were using a 100% multiplier it would potentially be possible to do a 20BTC bet with a 0.01 stoploss and end negative 15+ despite that stoploss. This isn't really an unintended error as the system is designed to stop at the defined loss or greater but many users were utilizing this with massive amounts and losing more than anticipated when not watching closely.

Yeah right  Roll Eyes

How is it possible to do a 20BTC bet with 100% increase and a 0.01 stop loss ?  Last time I checked 2 * 0.01 = 0.02 and that's where it should stop. You guys either changed the way it works without notifying anyone, or it was just lazy coding. Either way it's plain and simply your fault. Funny how the stop profit will stop in negative because it counts total profit from that autobet session. Yet a bet with loss multiplier & 0.01 stop loss can magically go up to 9BTC. I call bullshit. If it worked the way it was supposed to you wouldn't have even removed it. It's called a fucking tooltip or note.. 

If u have balance 1btc and run autobet with stop loss 0.1 btc , and ur autobet goes , and goes , and goes , and at some point u have 10btc on balance, ur autobet will continue till u have 0.9btc coz that is the point when u lose that 0.1 btc that u set.

I think it was coded like that. I might be wrong . I didn't rly speak with dev about it , and didn't test it properly , and now its gone so i can't check if that is correct .

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October 21, 2014, 05:19:33 PM
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We just rolled out some tiny changes.

Changelog:

 * Autobet: Stop @ Loss/Win removed. Many users didn't understand it was per session and some people were losing much more than they anticipated as the system stops at that loss or greater, so let's say you made a few coins but were using a 100% multiplier it would potentially be possible to do a 20BTC bet with a 0.01 stoploss and end negative 15+ despite that stoploss. This isn't really an unintended error as the system is designed to stop at the defined loss or greater but many users were utilizing this with massive amounts and losing more than anticipated when not watching closely.

Yeah right  Roll Eyes

How is it possible to do a 20BTC bet with 100% increase and a 0.01 stop loss ?  Last time I checked 2 * 0.01 = 0.02 and that's where it should stop. You guys either changed the way it works without notifying anyone, or it was just lazy coding. Either way it's plain and simply your fault. Funny how the stop profit will stop in negative because it counts total profit from that autobet session. Yet a bet with loss multiplier & 0.01 stop loss can magically go up to 9BTC. I call bullshit. If it worked the way it was supposed to you wouldn't have even removed it. It's called a fucking tooltip or note..  

If u have balance 1btc and run autobet with stop loss 0.1 btc , and ur autobet goes , and goes , and goes , and at some point u have 10btc on balance, ur autobet will continue till u have 0.9btc coz that is the point when u lose that 0.1 btc that u set.

I think it was coded like that. I might be wrong . I didn't rly speak with dev about it , and didn't test it properly , and now its gone so i can't check if that is correct .

Like I said, lazy ass coding.  Why would anyone set it up like that?
...Oh yeah, either to make people accidentally lose a shit load of money, or pure ignorance..

Not only that but his session profit wasn't even 20BTC when it happened -- he was playing over a period of days.

So this is obviously a coding issue and they don't want to admit it because this has happened more than once to a high roller.
Why else would they remove the code if it "worked properly", instead of a adding a warning, note or tooltip?
Because he's full of shit

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October 21, 2014, 05:32:55 PM
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So am I understanding it correctly that the removal of the stop-profit and stop-loss is temporary?


I think it's helpful to clarify what's being "stopped" -- it's the streak from the moment you press the button -- not the "session", and not the "bet" -- and also to set the stop loss *before* it exceeds the boundary, but still keep the win-stop *after* it has crossed the boundary.

Thoughts?

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October 21, 2014, 05:41:09 PM
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We just rolled out some tiny changes.

Changelog:

 * Autobet: Stop @ Loss/Win removed. Many users didn't understand it was per session and some people were losing much more than they anticipated as the system stops at that loss or greater, so let's say you made a few coins but were using a 100% multiplier it would potentially be possible to do a 20BTC bet with a 0.01 stoploss and end negative 15+ despite that stoploss. This isn't really an unintended error as the system is designed to stop at the defined loss or greater but many users were utilizing this with massive amounts and losing more than anticipated when not watching closely.

*Deposit address size is now larger ( I don't know why this became so tiny)


* General DB/site optimizations.



To-do:

-Permanent sockets fix

-Support for more coins. Note: We will simply be converting the coins to bitcoin @ time of deposit, so while it will be possible to deposit litecoin etc you still can only play with bitcoin.

-Hotkeys: trying to add this in a non-annoying way, most likely disabled by default.

-Support for additional languages.



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October 21, 2014, 05:44:40 PM
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-Support for more coins. Note: We will simply be converting the coins to bitcoin @ time of deposit, so while it will be possible to deposit litecoin etc you still can only play with bitcoin.

This is so useless. Why would we want to deposit litecoin or any other altcoin when we still can play only with bitcoin? Makes no sense since there are enough excahnge sites like shapeshift.
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October 21, 2014, 05:45:38 PM
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-Support for more coins. Note: We will simply be converting the coins to bitcoin @ time of deposit, so while it will be possible to deposit litecoin etc you still can only play with bitcoin.

This is so useless. Why would we want to deposit litecoin or any other altcoin when we still can play only with bitcoin? Makes no sense since there are enough excahnge sites like shapeshift.


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October 21, 2014, 05:47:10 PM
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-Support for more coins. Note: We will simply be converting the coins to bitcoin @ time of deposit, so while it will be possible to deposit litecoin etc you still can only play with bitcoin.

This is so useless. Why would we want to deposit litecoin or any other altcoin when we still can play only with bitcoin? Makes no sense since there are enough excahnge sites like shapeshift.

Yeah but i guess its alot slower to make account on exchange then deposit litecoins , than convert to bitcoin then deposit to pd, and also lots of waiting time for confirmations.

That said , i don't like the idea of accepting alt coins .

But i guess they want to get some new customers with providing that .

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October 21, 2014, 06:29:20 PM
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We just rolled out some tiny changes.

Changelog:

 * Autobet: Stop @ Loss/Win removed. Many users didn't understand it was per session and some people were losing much more than they anticipated as the system stops at that loss or greater, so let's say you made a few coins but were using a 100% multiplier it would potentially be possible to do a 20BTC bet with a 0.01 stoploss and end negative 15+ despite that stoploss. This isn't really an unintended error as the system is designed to stop at the defined loss or greater but many users were utilizing this with massive amounts and losing more than anticipated when not watching closely....


The "Stop @ Loss/Win" option could be enabled in our profile, so then people who want/need this feature will still have it.

...Many users didn't understand it was per session...

Some of us are able to figure that out, can we please have some version of Stop @ Loss/Win in the near future?  ...thanks.

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October 21, 2014, 06:39:09 PM
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We just rolled out some tiny changes.

Changelog:

 * Autobet: Stop @ Loss/Win removed. Many users didn't understand it was per session and some people were losing much more than they anticipated as the system stops at that loss or greater, so let's say you made a few coins but were using a 100% multiplier it would potentially be possible to do a 20BTC bet with a 0.01 stoploss and end negative 15+ despite that stoploss. This isn't really an unintended error as the system is designed to stop at the defined loss or greater but many users were utilizing this with massive amounts and losing more than anticipated when not watching closely.

Yeah right  Roll Eyes

How is it possible to do a 20BTC bet with 100% increase and a 0.01 stop loss ?  Last time I checked 2 * 0.01 = 0.02 and that's where it should stop. You guys either changed the way it works without notifying anyone, or it was just lazy coding. Either way it's plain and simply your fault. Funny how the stop profit will stop in negative because it counts total profit from that autobet session. Yet a bet with loss multiplier & 0.01 stop loss can magically go up to 9BTC. I call bullshit. If it worked the way it was supposed to you wouldn't have even removed it. It's called a fucking tooltip or note.. 

If u have balance 1btc and run autobet with stop loss 0.1 btc , and ur autobet goes , and goes , and goes , and at some point u have 10btc on balance, ur autobet will continue till u have 0.9btc coz that is the point when u lose that 0.1 btc that u set.

I think it was coded like that. I might be wrong . I didn't rly speak with dev about it , and didn't test it properly , and now its gone so i can't check if that is correct .

There could be the original auto-stop option and also a maximum draw-down:
Your highest balance (since re-start) can be easily tracked (even updated in a simple browser cookie), then you would never have a huge, unexpected auto-loss following a decent win.

Without the removed feature PD3 is a pale shadow of it's former glory.

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PrimeDice, absolutely best site for dice gambling. But in this day I have some problem, I can not enter in primedice.com, when I open website there is a page "Wait while Primedice is open" (Or something of this), and page is not change  Angry

 
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PrimeDice, absolutely best site for dice gambling. But in this day I have some problem, I can not enter in primedice.com, when I open website there is a page "Wait while Primedice is open" (Or something of this), and page is not change  Angry

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PrimeDice, absolutely best site for dice gambling. But in this day I have some problem, I can not enter in primedice.com, when I open website there is a page "Wait while Primedice is open" (Or something of this), and page is not change  Angry

Try using this link https://primedice.com/play

Thanks, now it works very done. But, I want to know which is type of problem that I had until now. 

Another question: Why Primedice, at the difference of other dice casinò, has never considered idea of invest in its platform?

 
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October 21, 2014, 08:52:13 PM
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PrimeDice, absolutely best site for dice gambling. But in this day I have some problem, I can not enter in primedice.com, when I open website there is a page "Wait while Primedice is open" (Or something of this), and page is not change  Angry

Try using this link https://primedice.com/play

Thanks, now it works very done. But, I want to know which is type of problem that I had until now. 

Another question: Why Primedice, at the difference of other dice casinò, has never considered idea of invest in its platform?

First , i think its some issue with SSL .

Second . As Stunna said there is no provably fair system to accept investments . And that is main reason he doesn't want to start accepting it.
And there are probably more reasons for that.

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October 21, 2014, 08:56:56 PM
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PrimeDice, absolutely best site for dice gambling. But in this day I have some problem, I can not enter in primedice.com, when I open website there is a page "Wait while Primedice is open" (Or something of this), and page is not change  Angry

Try using this link https://primedice.com/play

Thanks, now it works very done. But, I want to know which is type of problem that I had until now. 

Another question: Why Primedice, at the difference of other dice casinò, has never considered idea of invest in its platform?

First , i think its some issue with SSL .

Second . As Stunna said there is no provably fair system to accept investments . And that is main reason he doesn't want to start accepting it.
And there are probably more reasons for that.

Have you ever considered possibility to launch a sort of IPO? Maybe, it could be a good fair system to accept investments, considering that Primedice is effectively a company (right?).

 
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