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November 30, 2017, 08:16:20 AM
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I have been saying for several months asic miner market is a scam! dodgy dodgies stay away
I have been a buyer of both Bittawn and Asciminermarket. I respect Bittawn as a seller and I can recommend him to anybody anytime, But with Asicminermarket its been always and issue. I remember when I bought from them some Quads Cubes, and they proven to be a headache to deal with, As I have paid through Paypal eventually I got my money back after whole two months.    
Same here luckily i paid through PayPal and had refund,  but still lost a few months of my time
If you buy X10 from asicminermarket, we will provide the customer's address to the factory in October, the factory will be delayed, we cannot control, I am only a dealer, I am very sorry, and we are also very sad. If you are willing to wait, you will see the miners from factory to your shipping address, if you don't want to continue to wait for, we can give you a refund, asicminermarket is qualified distributors, we don't have to dig, we are not cheat. So far, asicminermarket has not deceived any clients, please provide your evidence, otherwise my lawyer will find you


Liar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fc2037u448

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5BJIr8qTl4


We don't have to dig, the miners in the video is in early September Asian clients payment due, on November 17, customers choose to take away the miners, China shenzhen a total of 50 sets. We only test one night miners and recorded a video, the next day the client took away his miners. In October, we have to provide the customer's receiving information to manufacturer, factory delay now, I'm sorry I was sad. If you buy from asicminermarket X10, if you are willing to wait, you will see that the miners from the factory directly to your address, the miners won't arrive my side, if you don't want to continue to wait for, we can give you a refund. Sorry sorry, but we are not liars, we are the qualified dealers, so far asicminermarket never deceive any one customer. If you insist on calling me a liar, please show me your are fool proof, otherwise, my lawyer will find you

Haha you made my day. "My lawyer"... jeess....   Roll Eyes
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November 30, 2017, 08:23:52 AM
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if you are willing to wait, you will see that the miners from the factory directly to your address, the miners won't arrive my side,

So what you are saying is asicminermarket just takes orders, and hands them over to Baikal themselves, and rip the buyer's a new hole with the 2x upcharge. Basically you are charging buyer's 2x the price just to place an order with Baikal on the buyer's behalf, OUCH, yet smart!
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November 30, 2017, 08:39:47 AM
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if you are willing to wait, you will see that the miners from the factory directly to your address, the miners won't arrive my side,

So what you are saying is asicminermarket just takes orders, and hands them over to Baikal themselves, and rip the buyer's a new hole with the 2x upcharge. Basically you are charging buyer's 2x the price just to place an order with Baikal on the buyer's behalf, OUCH, yet smart!

LOL

So, if I become an asicminermarket reseller, can I charge 4x for doing nothing?  Grin
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November 30, 2017, 09:25:28 AM
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Guys, never buy from the reseller. You see how the things goes? Smiley Buy directly from the manufacturer. Why feed resellers money?

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November 30, 2017, 10:48:04 AM
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Guys, never buy from the reseller. You see how the things goes? Smiley Buy directly from the manufacturer. Why feed resellers money?

Because sometimes its the only opportunity to get a miner. Look how Baikal sold the first and second batch of X10. They never had them on their website (Shop). Conteact them on skype was the one and only way to get your hands on a Batch1 X10. And they was sold out really quick. But asicminermarket ordered 500 X10 and they sold them long time after after sold out at Baikal.
Thats why they sell it at double price... "buy it at double price from me, or just forget it to get 1 miner from already sold out batch".
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November 30, 2017, 12:02:24 PM
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if you are willing to wait, you will see that the miners from the factory directly to your address, the miners won't arrive my side,

So what you are saying is asicminermarket just takes orders, and hands them over to Baikal themselves, and rip the buyer's a new hole with the 2x upcharge. Basically you are charging buyer's 2x the price just to place an order with Baikal on the buyer's behalf, OUCH, yet smart!

LOL

So, if I become an asicminermarket reseller, can I charge 4x for doing nothing?  Grin
There are a lot of sales in the world, and we asicminermarket is one of them, where to buy is your freedom. The price of our dealers is higher than that of the manufacturer. The price of the goods is my freedom. No one is forcing you to come to me for purchase. We are qualified distributors, so far not deceive any one customer, this BBS has thousands of users, said we asicminermarket is a liar, would you please find a proof and we con were tricked into the victim. If not, please shut up. Now the factory delayed delivery, we are sorry to be sad, if you think X10 is worth waiting, please wait patiently, if you don't want to wait, asicminermarket offers a full refund. I'm sorry for the refund please contact asicminermarket team
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November 30, 2017, 12:42:44 PM
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Any other resellers in  Baikal Xtreme x10 @ Shenzhen , Singapore, malaysia,  Bangkok.........Ready stock and price for the product available?
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November 30, 2017, 01:55:03 PM
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I really wonder how many are yet to ship from batch 1? Seems like atleast 500. I paid Baikal directly and I'm still waiting, although I didn't have to deal with the markup.
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November 30, 2017, 02:04:35 PM
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I wonder to know how many batch 1 buyer have request the refund?
When batch 2 and 3 will be released?

Cheers W_M

Those of us that went through ASIC Miner Market don't get that option.

  • No Communication what so ever
  • Paid ALOT more than Baikal's price (because they had at least 500 of batch 1)
  • They are not done milking the profits with OUR machines yet.

We can do nothing but hope that we get it one day. For me, if its before the last 2 algo's are known, I'll hold on and see if they are profitable. If not - eBay for going rate. If they would have left x13 in, Quark is doing great last 10 weeks - at lest that would have gotten me (us) break even.

Even when all of you were first contemplating asicminermarket... Many of us told you they have been know to scam in the past... This is nothing new with them... But people don't listen



I'm sorry, but I'm sorry we delayed the delivery. In October, we have submitted the customer address of the miner from us to the manufacturer, and asicminermarket is only the dealer. Due to the delay of the factory, this is out of our control. The X10 you see on YouTube video, is in early September payment miners Asian customers, customers choose along abundant express itself extract or come to China shenzhen, we only test the miners to upload the video recording, miners would have arrived at the client side. Now many clients abuse us on BBS. You call us a liar. Please show your evidence, or my lawyer will find you. Now, the factory delay in delivery of the goods, if you are willing to wait, you will see the machine from the factory directly to your address, the miners did not come to my side, we don't have secretly use miners mining clients. If you don't want to wait, we can get a full refund. Sorry again, sorry, you can contact our asicminermarket team if you have any questions

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we don't have secretly use miners mining clients.
Sorry don't believe you. The profitability declined and difficulty rose rapidly around Mid-November once you show all the open boxes and miners running.

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I have 6 times. Some by direct email, some through your webpage contact form (when you website is up). To this day I have never, ever received a response from you (after payment).

If and that's a BIG IF you are being truthful - I strongly suggest you correct your terrible communication procedure (or lack there of) and stop "TESTING" our miners, there is no need. You are a re-seller. All you have to do is move it off the pallet when a shipment comes in, match it (them) to our order, put your label over Baikal's and ship the damn thing out. That's it.

All of use paid well over manufactures price because you had already bought some to re-sell and they sold out batch one. That means:
  • a) Baikal got the payment with their profit (to build/ship) Unit
  • b) You made more profit than Baikal
  • c) We (the dumb-asses) that did not find and read this forum BEFORE buying from you...Get left-overs and a 1 year ROI

Sorry, Never Again will I purchase from you. Maybe if you would have responded to my emails to let me know what was going on.
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November 30, 2017, 02:08:40 PM
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Guys, never buy from the reseller. You see how the things goes? Smiley Buy directly from the manufacturer. Why feed resellers money?

You are totally correct....yet we are the one that missed batch one from Baikal, yet ASIC Miner Market had then and I was new. I just learned the hard way by bending over and taking the entire rod straight up!
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November 30, 2017, 02:28:31 PM
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In other news, Baikal claims that Batch 2 orders will be shipped on time, and not be delayed like Batch 1.

https://i.imgur.com/IysxyMH.png
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November 30, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
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Well they are quoting batch 1 completion on Dec 11th so I don't see how they will make the early batch 2 delivery dates. Batch 1 has been shipping for 15 plus days.
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November 30, 2017, 02:48:40 PM
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In other news, Baikal claims that Batch 2 orders will be shipped on time, and not be delayed like Batch 1.



Now that will be the worstest nightmare for batch 1 buyers.
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November 30, 2017, 05:22:01 PM
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In other news, Baikal claims that Batch 2 orders will be shipped on time, and not be delayed like Batch 1.



Now that will be the worstest nightmare for batch 1 buyers.

Batch 1 was cheaper then Batch 2, so i dont see, why this should be a nightmare for batch 1 buyers. We are still talking about the most profitable ASIC Miner at the MArket at this time.

It would only be a nightmare if they flood the market with those miners like Bitmain likes to do until they are worthless. So lets hope they do not do that.
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November 30, 2017, 06:13:02 PM
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Within 2 weeks, Baikal should complete batch 1 and start batch 2.
We'll see... I'm confident.
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November 30, 2017, 06:14:36 PM
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In other news, Baikal claims that Batch 2 orders will be shipped on time, and not be delayed like Batch 1.



Now that will be the worstest nightmare for batch 1 buyers.

Batch 1 was cheaper then Batch 2, so i dont see, why this should be a nightmare for batch 1 buyers. We are still talking about the most profitable ASIC Miner at the MArket at this time.

It would only be a nightmare if they flood the market with those miners like Bitmain likes to do until they are worthless. So lets hope they do not do that.

exactly. Batch 1 was like 1199 usd for one miner and Batch 2 - 1399 usd per unit. I just hope baikal will not mess up batch 2 delivery time too Smiley

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December 01, 2017, 01:40:41 AM
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Well they are quoting batch 1 completion on Dec 11th so I don't see how they will make the early batch 2 delivery dates. Batch 1 has been shipping for 15 plus days.

Or maybe, they ran out of Batch 1, and some Batch 1 people are actually the beginning of Batch 2, but they don't want to tell you that. Seems like they oversold or gave the majority of the miners to asicminermarket.

I find it hard to believe if Batch 1 ships by December 11, and Batch 2 starts on December 10, seems fishy.
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December 01, 2017, 02:44:19 AM
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Well they are quoting batch 1 completion on Dec 11th so I don't see how they will make the early batch 2 delivery dates. Batch 1 has been shipping for 15 plus days.

Or maybe, they ran out of Batch 1, and some Batch 1 people are actually the beginning of Batch 2, but they don't want to tell you that. Seems like they oversold or gave the majority of the miners to asicminermarket.

I find it hard to believe if Batch 1 ships by December 11, and Batch 2 starts on December 10, seems fishy.

Seems highly likely. Way too many units sold in batch 1 apparently.
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December 01, 2017, 04:26:10 AM
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Well they are quoting batch 1 completion on Dec 11th so I don't see how they will make the early batch 2 delivery dates. Batch 1 has been shipping for 15 plus days.

Or maybe, they ran out of Batch 1, and some Batch 1 people are actually the beginning of Batch 2, but they don't want to tell you that. Seems like they oversold or gave the majority of the miners to asicminermarket.

I find it hard to believe if Batch 1 ships by December 11, and Batch 2 starts on December 10, seems fishy.

batch 2 is end of december I believe

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December 01, 2017, 04:52:28 AM
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I wonder to know how many batch 1 buyer have request the refund?
When batch 2 and 3 will be released?

Cheers W_M

Those of us that went through ASIC Miner Market don't get that option.

  • No Communication what so ever
  • Paid ALOT more than Baikal's price (because they had at least 500 of batch 1)
  • They are not done milking the profits with OUR machines yet.

We can do nothing but hope that we get it one day. For me, if its before the last 2 algo's are known, I'll hold on and see if they are profitable. If not - eBay for going rate. If they would have left x13 in, Quark is doing great last 10 weeks - at lest that would have gotten me (us) break even.

Even when all of you were first contemplating asicminermarket... Many of us told you they have been know to scam in the past... This is nothing new with them... But people don't listen



I'm sorry, but I'm sorry we delayed the delivery. In October, we have submitted the customer address of the miner from us to the manufacturer, and asicminermarket is only the dealer. Due to the delay of the factory, this is out of our control. The X10 you see on YouTube video, is in early September payment miners Asian customers, customers choose along abundant express itself extract or come to China shenzhen, we only test the miners to upload the video recording, miners would have arrived at the client side. Now many clients abuse us on BBS. You call us a liar. Please show your evidence, or my lawyer will find you. Now, the factory delay in delivery of the goods, if you are willing to wait, you will see the machine from the factory directly to your address, the miners did not come to my side, we don't have secretly use miners mining clients. If you don't want to wait, we can get a full refund. Sorry again, sorry, you can contact our asicminermarket team if you have any questions

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we don't have secretly use miners mining clients.
Sorry don't believe you. The profitability declined and difficulty rose rapidly around Mid-November once you show all the open boxes and miners running.

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If you don't want to wait, we can get a full refund. Sorry again, sorry, you can contact our asicminermarket team if you have any questions
I have 6 times. Some by direct email, some through your webpage contact form (when you website is up). To this day I have never, ever received a response from you (after payment).

If and that's a BIG IF you are being truthful - I strongly suggest you correct your terrible communication procedure (or lack there of) and stop "TESTING" our miners, there is no need. You are a re-seller. All you have to do is move it off the pallet when a shipment comes in, match it (them) to our order, put your label over Baikal's and ship the damn thing out. That's it.

All of use paid well over manufactures price because you had already bought some to re-sell and they sold out batch one. That means:
  • a) Baikal got the payment with their profit (to build/ship) Unit
  • b) You made more profit than Baikal
  • c) We (the dumb-asses) that did not find and read this forum BEFORE buying from you...Get left-overs and a 1 year ROI

Sorry, Never Again will I purchase from you. Maybe if you would have responded to my emails to let me know what was going on.

I didn't test your miners, and asicminermarket only sold miners. We've been selling miners for a long time. There are a lot of customers, and asicminermarket never had any mining. You see is the payment due to Asian clients who, in the order in early September, November 17, miners came, a total of 50 units, customers choose to shenzhen take miners, we did a test with the customer and recording the video, the next day, the customers take away the miners. You have no before asicminermarket purchase, we have sent the payment, we buy from manufacturers, sales on our website, in October, we put the each shipping address provided to manufacturer, and then wait for the delivery. We are only the dealer, the delay of the manufacturer, we can not control, if you buy X10 in asicminermarket we accept full refund. We are sorry to delay the delivery of the goods. We are qualified dealers, not bad people. So far, asicminermarket has not deceived any customers. The email is not timely and timely replied, sorry, I will reply the email quickly today. If you don't want to keep waiting, I will give you a full refund, any question, please contact asicminermarket team
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