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October 03, 2017, 07:17:20 AM
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Yes, I think so. Most of the gambling I knew is all about numbers. When one thing has a number, it's already connected in mathematics. Some is depends their strategy by counting numbers and tgat's what I did sometimes.
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October 03, 2017, 07:17:44 AM
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I don't think that maths would be of much help in helping you win in gambling, but it can give you slight advantage in the game that you are playing. Like in the game of 21 or blackjack it is possible to predict upto an extent that when to gamble big and when to bet small simply by counting cards right from the start of the deck, so this can help you in getting an advantage which others don't have.
I haven't heard Math could really help in winning in gambling. Actually it's a pure of luck and strategy in winning the game. Because weather we involved Math it really depends whats your move in the game.

Depends on the game though. Math can help you when you are playing games like poker and sports books. There math would be useful because it can influence the chances of you winning in those games if you try and analyze the game using math. It can help but I think it really depends on the game you are playing with. That's just how gambling is for us.
I agree with that, math had no help in gambling. Because gambling like sports betting and cards game was needed of luck, moreover in dice roll, math had no used in this gambling because we can't count the roll it is not simply addition and subtraction. It's better to use hunch than math. Your hunch as a player is too much trusted than computation of math. Maybe you can used math in gambling in counting of wins and subtraction of losses.
I actually do not think so that being good at math could really help you with gambling. It is something that is totally dependent upon the luck of the player and has nothing to do with the kills at all.

If you re lucky enough to win the bet, then there is no difference of you being good or weak at mathematics. We could only consider it as a myth.
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October 03, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
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Yes, I think so. Most of the gambling I knew is all about numbers. When one thing has a number, it's already connected in mathematics. Some is depends their strategy by counting numbers and tgat's what I did sometimes.
You need to analyze in order to make a good bet and when doing it you need to be good in math.
It's true that it's all numbers, however you have to ensure you will be able to effectively execute your plan, sometimes when we are too weak it leads us to doing the opposite of our analyses, so still we need to be careful and to succeed requires all factors that are vital to be implemented well.

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October 03, 2017, 09:49:18 AM
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Yes, I think so. Most of the gambling I knew is all about numbers. When one thing has a number, it's already connected in mathematics. Some is depends their strategy by counting numbers and tgat's what I did sometimes.
You need to analyze in order to make a good bet and when doing it you need to be good in math.
It's true that it's all numbers, however you have to ensure you will be able to effectively execute your plan, sometimes when we are too weak it leads us to doing the opposite of our analyses, so still we need to be careful and to succeed requires all factors that are vital to be implemented well.

If it were so it would be possible to program a bot with a winning strategy and since bot can't be weak, it's a bot after all, it has no human weaknesses, the thing would be winning all the time. However, we all know that there's no such bot.

When we are losing, the problem is not that we are not following our strategies, but rather that no strategy is perfect enough to be a winning one all the time.

 
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October 03, 2017, 10:18:39 AM
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Math is useful in some gambling activities such as dice and roulette. In this kind of activity, you can get the probability of winning. Math analysis can be a help specially when looking for the probable winning choice, math knowledge is more like related with logical analysis which is a good factor on winning. But there are also gambling activities that do not demand Mathematics, like sport betting which math is not necessary because your bet will depend on the previous  game winning history. Still, gambling is a matter luck there is no definite prediction even with the use of math.
yeah, I agree with you. when you need a logical calculation then math definitely helps you in order to get a good observation. but when you participate in the football or tennis or any other gambling then the mathematical calculation will not bring any extra result. so it is not necessary that math always keeps you in a better shape.
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October 03, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
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I think topic starter had to ask and give a description with more details. Like what exactly game in gambling he was about?

There is no chances with roulette, but if you have great memory you have more chances with black jack or pocker.

And to someone who said there are no bots... there are bots for poker apready and these are used by some groups very actively.
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October 03, 2017, 10:41:32 AM
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No, I do not think so. I have bad knowledge in the field of mathematics and I rely only on luck, but I'm lucky to get big winnings, unlike those who know mathematics well.

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October 03, 2017, 10:50:52 AM
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Math is everywhere. Most of the games are based on math, you need to have a little basic understanding otherwise you may lose big. But luck would be the most important factor in gambling.
Yeah, in some ways we can use Math in gambling, just like what you have said, Math is everywhere, not only in gambling but everyday we uses Math, even when you ask what time is it, it is already Math. We can really use Math in gambling but not all the time. Because for me, gambling is basically more on luck.
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October 03, 2017, 12:10:01 PM
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No math wont help anybody into gambling zone, gamble is a two sword one side is lucky and the other one is risk, there isnt nothing you can do to avoid those. Otherwise we would see a lot people very healthy, gambling scripts are made to be random soo no one cant predict neither the owner, otherwise it would be just a scam business and isnt at all.
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October 03, 2017, 12:26:19 PM
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Maths could help you win at gambling to a certain degree. Statistics also come into place too. There is no magic formula to win at gambling unless you are the house in most cases the odds of winning are almost always in the houses favour and if you do get lucky it's there job to keep you planning until you put more back to them.
Maths, Physics, Computer, Calculus etc nothing can help us to win in gambling because no subject tells us how to control our fate. We can just calculate our loss to keep ourselves saves.

Other than that, math does not offers tricks to bring the number that we want in dice or make the third slot get the same object that previous two ones have. It is a random game and mostly we lose because house has edge.
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October 03, 2017, 12:54:16 PM
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Math is the source of random algo used to get the result on a probability game like dice. Therefore​ it can be beat by means of Math too. This is still impossible for now but in the future it can be crack by some genius gamblers that want to win. There are some experements ongoing on how to gain on probabilty base game.

That's some very interesting research. Do you have any links to information on it?

I forgot the site. But you can manually search on google. I just saw it on a chatbox of some dice site. The guy is a high roller and experimenting for different combination to crack algo. I know that this sounds insane but I believe that it can be successful someday.
I do see those kind of person too on which they do made such calculations which they do really make it use to take advantage on the game but well i didnt really tend to believe if it does work or not because the thing on my mind is only that gambling houses cant really be cheated.I do believe that they are the ones who can possibly cheat its players but players cheating houses is really a rare case.

What I mean is not cheating but people who cracks a method to counter the result of the algo. Cheating is seeking the result of roll before you roll. I believe that there is a formula to solve the random result of algo. Even if it is just a slim percentage. Hehehe. Do you try experimenting too some methods?
If you have ever done programming or just seen some little easy code which generates number randomly, you will never ever able to figure out the algorithm by just watching some results. For instance, hashes are also algos but having 1000 of words and their hashes won't tell you the actual working. It is not very easy to find a pattern in something random, at least not for me.
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October 03, 2017, 01:05:04 PM
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Well, Probably math is one of the best way in order to win in a certain game because it is part of the game where in you have to solve for a certain amount of money although we know that money is involve so you have to compute on it. In some case you have to practice mathematics because it must something to do in coming from the big or somehow related to gambling..Thank's

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October 03, 2017, 02:39:36 PM
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All the maths in the world couldn't help the call in last night's NFL game!
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October 03, 2017, 03:41:43 PM
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All the maths in the world couldn't help the call in last night's NFL game!

Hahah. I was waiting for this one. Yeah I lost a hefty amount on NFL last night with a bunch of parlays going on with one or two "safe" picks that completely rekt me! Crikey.. So I'll have to agree with you on that one, there's no amount of math that could have seen it coming Cheesy

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October 03, 2017, 08:14:17 PM
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Math is useful in some gambling activities such as dice and roulette. In this kind of activity, you can get the probability of winning. Math analysis can be a help specially when looking for the probable winning choice, math knowledge is more like related with logical analysis which is a good factor on winning. But there are also gambling activities that do not demand Mathematics, like sport betting which math is not necessary because your bet will depend on the previous  game winning history. Still, gambling is a matter luck there is no definite prediction even with the use of math.
as far as I can judge about professional gambling, then the knowledge of mathematics is not only welcomed but must also be mandatory. Just otherwise, no victories for Roma and hand can not be seen if his knowledge in this science is very weak.

I don't think so whole knowledge in math can be totally applied with this kind of gambling scenario and I really agree that it's mandatory. You needed to be knowledgeable in order to become more equipped of skills towards the game, but it's not an assurance of winning all the time. Math is useful if you exactly balancing you gambling investments and counting your funds, but not a key of chances of lucky prize to win for.

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October 03, 2017, 09:53:53 PM
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I don't think that math actually works on gambling (roullete). I presume that it is more on statistics and anlalysis. Mathematics is about addition subtratraction etc. But what gambling needs is statistics.. The probability to win on  what you bet in each game..i guess you can also learn it on experience. Even  anlysis of each game is based on how the game has been rolling over time.
math can not make us win the gambling game. gambling is a game that only relies on luck. if we want to win the gambling game then we must pray and hope. this is why gambling is called an uncertain game. and many people say that gambling is a game that has a very high risk.
Math can in fact help you win a gambling game in a game like poker you can use math to improve your game and know when it is the right play to call a bet and when it is the time to fold, it is not easy but professional gamblers do this everyday to earn great profits in the game.
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October 04, 2017, 02:00:40 AM
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I don't think that maths would be of much help in helping you win in gambling, but it can give you slight advantage in the game that you are playing. Like in the game of 21 or blackjack it is possible to predict upto an extent that when to gamble big and when to bet small simply by counting cards right from the start of the deck, so this can help you in getting an advantage which others don't have.
I haven't heard Math could really help in winning in gambling. Actually it's a pure of luck and strategy in winning the game. Because weather we involved Math it really depends whats your move in the game.

Depends on the game though. Math can help you when you are playing games like poker and sports books. There math would be useful because it can influence the chances of you winning in those games if you try and analyze the game using math. It can help but I think it really depends on the game you are playing with. That's just how gambling is for us.
I agree with that, math had no help in gambling. Because gambling like sports betting and cards game was needed of luck, moreover in dice roll, math had no used in this gambling because we can't count the roll it is not simply addition and subtraction. It's better to use hunch than math. Your hunch as a player is too much trusted than computation of math. Maybe you can used math in gambling in counting of wins and subtraction of losses.
I actually do not think so that being good at math could really help you with gambling. It is something that is totally dependent upon the luck of the player and has nothing to do with the kills at all.

If you re lucky enough to win the bet, then there is no difference of you being good or weak at mathematics. We could only consider it as a myth.

What myth here is luck.  Reason is that you cannot tell how luck exist, how it originate and where it came from Smiley  Just a state of mind to tell something unexplainable.  Math oppose this.  If your math is in sync with the internal setup's randomness, you will always win.  Reminds me of some Video Carrera in a mall.  Some person cracked it pattern and always win eversince.  That is not luck, it is math.  Soon after, that game was thrown out of that mall and probably changed its internal setup so that new pattern will be implemented.
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October 04, 2017, 02:17:47 AM
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There are people who are studying well and doing their strategy to win gambling one is studying math, For me math is one of my strategy to win the gamble and its true it helps, but not at all time, Because of the gamble  
when something bad comes from you even good and lots of strategy you will be defeated. because gambling is just always the loser, you will win this game when you are lucky. Do not rely on luck to win just make you strategy.
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October 04, 2017, 04:57:03 AM
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Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.
I don’t agree with this that being good at math will help you to win while gambling .this is a fact that anyone who is good at math can grab the techniques of various games quite faster than the one who is having problems in calculations.

But the end of the line is that gambling is basically dependent upon the luck of the player. If you are a newbie in this field even then it is possible to win an ample amount of capital by being luckier than the opponent.
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October 04, 2017, 06:54:03 AM
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Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.
I don’t agree with this that being good at math will help you to win while gambling .this is a fact that anyone who is good at math can grab the techniques of various games quite faster than the one who is having problems in calculations.

But the end of the line is that gambling is basically dependent upon the luck of the player. If you are a newbie in this field even then it is possible to win an ample amount of capital by being luckier than the opponent.

I do not really agree, but maybe math is helping gamblers gamble but I'm sure not much, because the thing that helps gambling is luck. Logically, if you're good in math you do not guarantee you will win in gambling, but if you get luck even though you're bad in math you'll win. So still luck is more important than math.


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