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December 04, 2017, 07:21:45 AM
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I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.
Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.
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December 04, 2017, 12:13:43 PM
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I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.
Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

Indeed we need strategy while gambling and most often math will be included on such strategy. But believe me, there is no strategy to guarantee that we will win the game. That is why some people says that math won't help us to win the game.

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December 04, 2017, 12:36:44 PM
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In a real casino math is to calculate your bankroll and winning chance- but still you stand no chance against a good dealer regarding the roulette. I have seen guys landing the ball in desired zone of the wheel...But that is different story. Online casinos are different. I conducted an experiment regarding the roulette. 35 low rolls on a fresh account with no bet history, and then I bet on all the numbers which didn't come out in those 35 rolls - 11 in total. I got a hit. Next roll- I got a hit as well. So I continued the system until there were 4 numbers left and I stopped. My longest loosing streak was 4 rolls. Lucky? Beginners luck. Random generator is supposed to generate random numbers within 0- 36 (speaking of roulette), and it will generate 98% of those numbers in 100 rolls. If you have empty roll history.... The more you play the more complicated the things become. In the long run you gonna lose...
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December 04, 2017, 01:12:23 PM
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I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.
Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.
Not all gambling needs mathematical expertise in order to win the game, and the only game that applicable to math strategy is only the game of cards and the rest of game like for those computer generated gambling games is just go with the flow of luck in winning the game.

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December 04, 2017, 01:19:44 PM
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I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.
Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

Indeed we need strategy while gambling and most often math will be included on such strategy. But believe me, there is no strategy to guarantee that we will win the game. That is why some people says that math won't help us to win the game.
Include me on those person who dont really believe on maths but somehow these things do really add some thrill or enjoyment since we can able to make strategies basing on mathematical calculations but doesnt mean it would increase the chance of winning unless if we are lucky then these things will really help us out but we should not really rely on this one.

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December 04, 2017, 02:26:54 PM
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Though that is quite different from gambling itself. The fact is in lotto it is indeed possible to hit the numbers no matter what if you placed a bet on all possible combinations. But usually it would never be worth it to be on all those combinations as it would take more money to do so than what you will win, so no one ever does do it. This is different in games like dice or anything else, since you cannot place a bet on all numbers and you cannot do any math to actually win the game.

Well how about roulette?
Is it counted as gamble?

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December 04, 2017, 02:37:08 PM
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I don't think math helps us to win in gambling. Gambling is just pure luck. Math is helpful in terms of investments but in gambling, it does not help.

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December 04, 2017, 03:17:17 PM
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I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.
Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

Indeed we need strategy while gambling and most often math will be included on such strategy. But believe me, there is no strategy to guarantee that we will win the game. That is why some people says that math won't help us to win the game.
Include me on those person who dont really believe on maths but somehow these things do really add some thrill or enjoyment since we can able to make strategies basing on mathematical calculations but doesnt mean it would increase the chance of winning unless if we are lucky then these things will really help us out but we should not really rely on this one.
- I think math can help us increase our chances of winning, but it is in sports gambling because I often see professional gamblers on sports gambling, they often through the numbers and data in the past, then make statistics, calculate the probability and make the final decision, their winning rate can be said to be quite high. However, personally, I am not a professional gambler, I gamble for fun, I feel that I do not need to calculate or use mathematics in gambling, I just want entertainment after a tiring working week, applying mathematics to gambling just makes me more of a headache


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December 04, 2017, 05:35:21 PM
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I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.
Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

Indeed we need strategy while gambling and most often math will be included on such strategy. But believe me, there is no strategy to guarantee that we will win the game. That is why some people says that math won't help us to win the game.

Math could never be the way on how we could win against the house in gambling, because math is just play a small role in gambling, and that is when we are calculating the bets that we are going to make each to know if how many rounds we could make, and if you are going to think that MATH could helps you in gambling, then I suggest you not to gamble anymore because you are just going to lose all of your money.
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December 05, 2017, 04:50:14 AM
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If you're good enough at math you can win consistently at gambling. Not at all gambling - a big part of what the math is there for is to make sure you're always in profitable situations. It will never magically make you win at roulette. But it will let you identify the games and situations you can win at, and if you stick to them you will make money in the long term.

As we hear the word “gambling”, the first thought that comes in our mind is luck. Math can help in gambling but it cannot help you to win every game you play because luck is more prominent in this case than the logics. It is due to luck that at last moments of games, the loser becomes the winner and the winner has to face disappointment and misery and at that time logics are far away from the situation.
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December 05, 2017, 08:01:09 AM
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If you're good enough at math you can win consistently at gambling. Not at all gambling - a big part of what the math is there for is to make sure you're always in profitable situations. It will never magically make you win at roulette. But it will let you identify the games and situations you can win at, and if you stick to them you will make money in the long term.

As we hear the word “gambling”, the first thought that comes in our mind is luck. Math can help in gambling but it cannot help you to win every game you play because luck is more prominent in this case than the logics. It is due to luck that at last moments of games, the loser becomes the winner and the winner has to face disappointment and misery and at that time logics are far away from the situation.
Yeah luck is a major factor in almost all games out there but there are a few games that allows for people that can do the maths to be consistent with their winning games. There are professional poker players for a reason and that's not due to luck. Anyone can have a fluke tournament or have a hot run but not everyone can have a good bankroll management and get winnings consistently Smiley.

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December 05, 2017, 12:46:52 PM
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I don't think math helps us to win in gambling. Gambling is just pure luck. Math is helpful in terms of investments but in gambling, it does not help.
But i think that in some gambling games it is too much important that you must have some good calculation so as to play gambling in a good way.
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December 05, 2017, 01:24:28 PM
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I don't think that math is needed in gambling not unless to compute how much your loss or how much you have won  Grin.. gambling is more on strategy and luck. Even if you are playing poker. It is not neccesary to compute cards number.
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December 05, 2017, 01:40:32 PM
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I don't think math helps us to win in gambling. Gambling is just pure luck. Math is helpful in terms of investments but in gambling, it does not help.
But i think that in some gambling games it is too much important that you must have some good calculation so as to play gambling in a good way.
Yup in some cards games the professionals will play calculated games. They can make the calculation and move the card but how and what is that calculations I don't know. I think making a good strategy is also called one type of calculation in gambling.
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December 05, 2017, 01:51:40 PM
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In a real casino math is to calculate your bankroll and winning chance- but still you stand no chance against a good dealer regarding the roulette. I have seen guys landing the ball in desired zone of the wheel...But that is different story. Online casinos are different. I conducted an experiment regarding the roulette. 35 low rolls on a fresh account with no bet history, and then I bet on all the numbers which didn't come out in those 35 rolls - 11 in total. I got a hit. Next roll- I got a hit as well. So I continued the system until there were 4 numbers left and I stopped. My longest loosing streak was 4 rolls. Lucky? Beginners luck. Random generator is supposed to generate random numbers within 0- 36 (speaking of roulette), and it will generate 98% of those numbers in 100 rolls. If you have empty roll history.... The more you play the more complicated the things become. In the long run you gonna lose...
Yes that is right that all games do not require mathematics, but still some gambling are there where mathematics is too much important and where without mathemmatics we cannot play gambling in a good way.
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December 05, 2017, 01:59:13 PM
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At least with math you can see the odds how much you win the game , will it be worth or not etc.
But yeaa i don't know if there is a certain technical way to do math to make you have higher chance to win.
For me Those people who knows well about math might stay away from gambling just like what einstein said about to win a game on roulette always impossible .

We can only know the odds but we know that even with maths we cant win the game. So for me it is just to troublesome to figure things out with math. It is better to just let everything flow in accordance to what the thing is. We cant win in gambling and we need to be aware of that. That is why it is better to forget everything and just play for fun
Yeaa that's my point , people looking for some excuse to win the game.
The outcome will remain unpredictable and random however , so math isn't an answer to make you win but if you think by knowing your chance by do the math as a helpful one then be my guest.
Playing like nothing to lose always better way to gamble , but hard to make it stay like that all the time.
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December 05, 2017, 09:44:24 PM
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Yes that is right that all games do not require mathematics, but still some gambling are there where mathematics is too much important and where without mathemmatics we cannot play gambling in a good way.
Not all of them but if you are good in Math there can be an effect to the way you think. It will make you think faster and reliable and when it comes to decisions you'll be at the best way to solve it. Like when we are solving Mathematical problems our minds are working well for sometime and not that good in other times, well it will help but not all the times but it's also good if you are good at it.

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December 05, 2017, 09:53:47 PM
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On a physical roulette game mathematics and other related analyzation can help you win games but I don't think it will have the same effect on virtual casinos, what I mean about that is on a virtual roulette game your game is actually generated based on online algorithms which is different on a real life roulette game. Your analysis and related maths might be different for both even if they are the same roulette games.

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December 06, 2017, 02:06:35 AM
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I have never seen an equation or solving problem in any gambling game so that is impossible. Gambling games picks randomly so there are no patterns because if there is then math can possibly help you to win.
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December 06, 2017, 06:39:04 AM
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I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player.  Smiley

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.
Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!

So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.


If math’s is that great that it can tell future with hundred percent accuracy then why you don’t just gamble and win every bet. This way you will become the world's richest person in no time, believe me.

As far as the owners of the casino or gambling websites are concerned, they are the owner which means they can win all the games they play as that is their yard. They are the king of that Empire. However I don't think they gamble and nothing can predict luck or future.
Lol, At least there is someone who understands that mathematics has to do nothing with winning gambling bet or losing it. Gambling is the game which is totally dependent on your luck. This is the only reason there are not as such experts of gambling.

No one can ever tell you how to win the bet, they will simply give you some suggestions about leaving the game when you have some good profit. Gambling is the only game which has no strategies.
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