Can maths help you win in gambling ?

[Pan Troglodytes]

In games of pure luck (roulette) maths is a more or less a waste of time long term - you are going to lose in the long term, maths can help you find the game where you will lose your money more slowly, or allow you to have strategies that allow you to lose more slowly.

In games where skill is involved, then maths can be your friend (but also your enemy).

For example, in sports betting (requires lots of skill), understanding the following mathematical concepts can make a big difference, some of them are 100% necessary:
- what do prices reperesent (e.g. 3.0 = 33.3% chance of something happening)
- staking (how much should you stake on each bet)
- statistical modelling sports events using past data (a h-u-g-e subject)

Poker is another good example, but the maths is relatively straightforward to learn - everyone just learns the same maths (probabilities) and pot payout calculations. Poker is so much psychology as well (yuk!).

Of course, managing your own psychology is ANOTHER super-important part of long-term winning in gambling. But without some good understanding of the maths... you are probably getting nowhere.

Wow mate it is the best short description of the can-math-help-in-gambling issue that I have read so far. With such an attitude I am positive you are going to be OK and it doesn't even make much sense to wish you good luck, which I am going to do nevertheless good luck!

[mirandastings]

In games of pure luck (roulette) maths is a more or less a waste of time long term - you are going to lose in the long term, maths can help you find the game where you will lose your money more slowly, or allow you to have strategies that allow you to lose more slowly.

In games where skill is involved, then maths can be your friend (but also your enemy).

For example, in sports betting (requires lots of skill), understanding the following mathematical concepts can make a big difference, some of them are 100% necessary:
- what do prices reperesent (e.g. 3.0 = 33.3% chance of something happening)
- staking (how much should you stake on each bet)
- statistical modelling sports events using past data (a h-u-g-e subject)

Poker is another good example, but the maths is relatively straightforward to learn - everyone just learns the same maths (probabilities) and pot payout calculations. Poker is so much psychology as well (yuk!).

Of course, managing your own psychology is ANOTHER super-important part of long-term winning in gambling. But without some good understanding of the maths... you are probably getting nowhere.

Wow mate it is the best short description of the can-math-help-in-gambling issue that I have read so far. With such an attitude I am positive you are going to be OK and it doesn't even make much sense to wish you good luck, which I am going to do nevertheless good luck!

thanks Pan! good luck to you too!

[JL421]

I think yes. Exactly for that reason the road to casino is closed for people with excellent math and memory possibilities.

Maths as role in many games and is important all over the world, gambling is running of maths as we count the cards, the money the bets which need maths and your good maths. Probability also involves in many games which helps us to win a game, furthermore besides probability many other mathematical calculations are using which helps us in understanding games.

I doubt whatever you said is actually true, there is no need of maths when you are playing a dice game as it is just some number which might pop up randomly. Maths is only required in blackjack but you don't need to have some degree in maths just the basic math is more than enough
There might he few other card games which requires maths like poker

[MyIdeas]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

There are only some games in which the math will help you a little to win a game or some bets but not all the time and not in all the games as most of the games are luck based and in that you can do nothing. No matter how much struggle you do you will win or lose if the luck of you side with you.

Many of the games among them often depend on the experience of the gambler he can find the game that how to enter in it and how to bet. They with the experience of years became the professional gamblers and can win most of the games/bets.

[Tungsten-1]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I think the only formula that may help in gambling is probability for roulette games, but i still believe math cannot affect to gambling games even you used probability because probability is all predicting the chances. I believe it is all about luck, so if you wanted to win you need to have good luck.

You are right about it but you know that probability also involves maths rules and steps going on are of maths. This is more relevant about this statement that only one thing which can help you in gambling is probability and because there is equal chances of winning and losing so you will need to know about the others turns and then you will decide the probable action to take place.

That probability which we use in math is very much different from the probability of gambling. Thinking of this probability and relating math with gambling doesn’t make any sense to me. Math doesn’t plays any role in the winning or losing of the person in gambling because the only thing that matters is luck. Poker is the only game where your probability can be helpful.

[sweetbet]

It depeds on which game you play. Card counting can certainly help but casinos don't like it. As far as roulette is concerned, betting on a color or on odds/evens  gives you better odds than winning than if you were to bet on a single number.

[entrepmind23]

It depeds on which game you play. Card counting can certainly help but casinos don't like it. As far as roulette is concerned, betting on a color or on odds/evens  gives you better odds than winning than if you were to bet on a single number.

If the casinos knew that you are doing this strategy and win in the game then certainly you will not be able to go get back on that casino again cause you make them lose money. Card counting is a big help to win but it is still a talent of someone to be able to remember all the cards. In other games, it would be base in pure luck so math would not be of help to any of this. If you are lucky on that day then good for you but if you are not then better go back another day when you are level-headed so that you can avoid spending more money trying to get back your losses.

[kateryana81]

I believe that a gambler who knows how to apply mathematical knowledge, especially the theory of probability, in practice, will predominantly remain in the winning position. And he can get a share of the huge sums that are spinning in this business. There are mathematically proven winning systems that are successfully used in practice by many players.

It depends on what kind of game you are joining some needs mathematical analysis but some games are only need experience.

I agree with you that it depends on the game that whether math can help you or not. Poker Is the only game that I see in gambling in which we can use our knowledge of math but still it doesn’t mean we should depend on our math only to win it because it may happen to you that the person opponent to you have a good luck and he wins and you lose having knowledge of math only.

[darklus123]

Maybe if you are playing a math based game then probably it can help you. Yet most of the gambling games are basically based on your luck or other skills like logical thinking. I think the author was trying to atleast relate it to math and did said that you will win using mathetical equation

[panjul07]

Maybe if you are playing a math based game then probably it can help you. Yet most of the gambling games are basically based on your luck or other skills like logical thinking. I think the author was trying to atleast relate it to math and did said that you will win using mathetical equation

Can you give an example of a math based game gambling? I have never seen such game so far, as what I have seen so far are just game with numbers such as dice, roulette and lottery but I think they are not math based games.

[Ekanenf]

Maybe if you are playing a math based game then probably it can help you. Yet most of the gambling games are basically based on your luck or other skills like logical thinking. I think the author was trying to atleast relate it to math and did said that you will win using mathetical equation

Can you give an example of a math based game gambling? I have never seen such game so far, as what I have seen so far are just game with numbers such as dice, roulette and lottery but I think they are not math based games.

Maybe they were saying that it's math who helps them to win in gambling because they are lucky on betting though thinking they win because of math is not true at all, it is all about being lucky despite of the risk that you are at since you are playing gambling. Math couldn't help you in gambling, it is all about random stuffs so applying math will not help at all.

[Direwolve735]

Adaptive mathematics is used as one of the main ways in helping to outplay the online casino. Its foundation is based on the difference in payments to players who add money in different ways, and at a certain time and with different accumulations withdraw payments. Taking these factors into account allows you to significantly increase the opportunity to gain a significant win by defeating a gambling house.

[Shinpako09]

Maybe if you are playing a math based game then probably it can help you. Yet most of the gambling games are basically based on your luck or other skills like logical thinking. I think the author was trying to atleast relate it to math and did said that you will win using mathetical equation

Can you give an example of a math based game gambling? I have never seen such game so far, as what I have seen so far are just game with numbers such as dice, roulette and lottery but I think they are not math based games.

They are definitely not. Math is nothing to do with this. No matter how good you are in math. It can't help you to win in a game like dice which the result is completely random numbers. Many mathematician should have won or atleast try to win in a lottery if ever.

[PacePay]

It depeds on which game you play. Card counting can certainly help but casinos don't like it. As far as roulette is concerned, betting on a color or on odds/evens  gives you better odds than winning than if you were to bet on a single number.

yes there are many games which require some math for you to win the game but not all the time sometimes it may depend all on the luck for example the spin do not give any idea that at which point will it stop.

[yvesp110]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I think the only formula that may help in gambling is probability for roulette games, but i still believe math cannot affect to gambling games even you used probability because probability is all predicting the chances. I believe it is all about luck, so if you wanted to win you need to have good luck.

You are right about it but you know that probability also involves maths rules and steps going on are of maths. This is more relevant about this statement that only one thing which can help you in gambling is probability and because there is equal chances of winning and losing so you will need to know about the others turns and then you will decide the probable action to take place.

That probability which we use in math is very much different from the probability of gambling. Thinking of this probability and relating math with gambling doesn’t make any sense to me. Math doesn’t plays any role in the winning or losing of the person in gambling because the only thing that matters is luck. Poker is the only game where your probability can be helpful.

You are right about the exceptions and the specific games in which probability is helpful like poker and I appointed exactly the same what I mean to say. Probability and mathematics is useful in some games. In basic maths we study counting numbers and addition, subtraction and other rules, so let me tell you these rules and taking place in the teen pati game and other card games so maths is useful. Tell me, can you give 4 cards to one person and 6 cards to another person in one game? No. because you have to distribute equally and hence maths is involved.

[virtualkeybuyer]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I think the only formula that may help in gambling is probability for roulette games, but i still believe math cannot affect to gambling games even you used probability because probability is all predicting the chances. I believe it is all about luck, so if you wanted to win you need to have good luck.

You are right about it but you know that probability also involves maths rules and steps going on are of maths. This is more relevant about this statement that only one thing which can help you in gambling is probability and because there is equal chances of winning and losing so you will need to know about the others turns and then you will decide the probable action to take place.

That probability which we use in math is very much different from the probability of gambling. Thinking of this probability and relating math with gambling doesn’t make any sense to me. Math doesn’t plays any role in the winning or losing of the person in gambling because the only thing that matters is luck. Poker is the only game where your probability can be helpful.

You are right about the exceptions and the specific games in which probability is helpful like poker and I appointed exactly the same what I mean to say. Probability and mathematics is useful in some games. In basic maths we study counting numbers and addition, subtraction and other rules, so let me tell you these rules and taking place in the teen pati game and other card games so maths is useful. Tell me, can you give 4 cards to one person and 6 cards to another person in one game? No. because you have to distribute equally and hence maths is involved.

You have a better explanation but after reading your comment I do not think that everyone will be able to do that much math for playing games on gambling. There are people for entertainment and they do not worry for their win and lose they only enjoy the game while those who want to earn money they will can then do any other job easily if they can do that type of math.

[Harley29]

Maybe if you are playing a math based game then probably it can help you. Yet most of the gambling games are basically based on your luck or other skills like logical thinking. I think the author was trying to atleast relate it to math and did said that you will win using mathetical equation

Gambling and math are two different stories in my opinion, maybe two chapters of a same book. I think this makes more sense. Yeah! Gambling and math are two chapters of a same book because but we can’t mix up both of these chapters because they alone will make a sense and give you a lesson and when both of them will be mixed up, you will get nothing.

[virtualkeybuyer]

Maybe if you are playing a math based game then probably it can help you. Yet most of the gambling games are basically based on your luck or other skills like logical thinking. I think the author was trying to atleast relate it to math and did said that you will win using mathetical equation

Gambling and math are two different stories in my opinion, maybe two chapters of a same book. I think this makes more sense. Yeah! Gambling and math are two chapters of a same book because but we can’t mix up both of these chapters because they alone will make a sense and give you a lesson and when both of them will be mixed up, you will get nothing.

Yes it is right but in some games while in some games it is possible if you can do it. I heard from many experts in gamblers that they observe the game deeper and than after some calculation that do a decision and upon that decision they get a good result. That is why we can say that in some games doing math will benefit you. But that is the work of some more expert gamblers.

[ethereumhunter]

Maybe if you are playing a math based game then probably it can help you. Yet most of the gambling games are basically based on your luck or other skills like logical thinking. I think the author was trying to atleast relate it to math and did said that you will win using mathetical equation

Gambling and math are two different stories in my opinion, maybe two chapters of a same book. I think this makes more sense. Yeah! Gambling and math are two chapters of a same book because but we can’t mix up both of these chapters because they alone will make a sense and give you a lesson and when both of them will be mixed up, you will get nothing.

Yes it is right but in some games while in some games it is possible if you can do it. I heard from many experts in gamblers that they observe the game deeper and than after some calculation that do a decision and upon that decision they get a good result. That is why we can say that in some games doing math will benefit you. But that is the work of some more expert gamblers.

so if they can calculate about the game, their chances to win is bigger, right? but I am sure that they still need to be lucky to win because their calculation will not work if they don't have a luck. but for me, I don't know about this because I don't calculate the possibility of winning and losing because it's too difficult for me and I think it will spend more time again.

[kevpantof]

not completely, we need math to accelerate us in counting. for victory, luck is the most decisive.

Gambling is purely luck dependent thing and saying this that math can help in winning the gambling game would be an insane thing for me because math is not related with gambling. One thing where math is helpful for the gamblers is to maintain their record that how much he lost or won in gambling is that in future if he wants to leave the gambling, he can easily do it.

I think it would be a foolish as well as an insane thing if one would say that math would help the person to win in gambling. Math can never ever help the person to win in gambling as gambling requires luck more than calculations. If you don’t believe this go to casino some day and play a game and start doing calculations on every move, you will get to know how much important math is for gambling. 

In my opinion, it would be much better for us to let math on the status where it is and not to relate it with gambling because I think personally that when we relate gambling with math, the reputation of math also goes down because it is compared with a thing that has no reputation in the eyes of respectful people. Math can never help gambler to win the game.

Yeah! I would agree with you in this regard as I am having the same opinion as you are having. I don’t know why people are relating math with gambling because math is a subject which people learn in their lives while gambling isn’t a subject and not all people lean it in their lives. Math can make the future of the person while gambling can’t make the same.