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September 27, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
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Maths allow you to count or follow a logical process. You will not be using maths to win a game. You only will be using your brain, your tactics and strategies. Maths allow the brain to make it awake and quick to understand any situation. So, if you play a game, do not try to rely on what you have studied at school. Instead, rely on yourself and what you are capable of. You cannot use maths when you have no skills.
there's some people who gamble using math , at least they are doing some research on how math could have a big role to decide you have to win or lost. but yeah in the field you wouldn't have time to gamble mathematically , it's just the theory mostly not practically. i just doubt a lot of people can doing this. gamble always make you think it's just a random money game.

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September 27, 2017, 09:48:20 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I preferably going to believe what Albert Einstein's said about winning a roulette. Let me skip this game, I have read a fact article that there was a math teacher that managed to win the lottery for four times. If you are going to study on how the process of the gambling game you are playing. It can help you to give some idea but it will never give you a guarantee that you'll win.

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September 27, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I preferably going to believe what Albert Einstein's said about winning a roulette. Let me skip this game, I have read a fact article that there was a math teacher that managed to win the lottery for four times. If you are going to study on how the process of the gambling game you are playing. It can help you to give some idea but it will never give you a guarantee that you'll win.

Agreed! Math can give us an idea on how to play the game. It can help us to treat our game as well. If for example, someone able to win at gambling by using math, I bet he/she can't do it at everytime. Gambling will always depend on luck no matter what method we use.

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September 27, 2017, 10:38:51 PM
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This article doesn't state that you can win at roulette by using math, it says this at the end:

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We can dress up the layout of the wheel, the layout of the betting cloth, our number selection and our money management system however we like, but the maths is always there, quietly working against us. You might as well just have fun, pick random numbers and trust to Lady Luck. Either that, or do as Einstein suggested and steal chips (not that we’d recommend it).

So no, it's not possible to win at roulette just by using math.

For other games it's possible, but keep in mind that casino's are doing everything in their power to prevent you from doing so.
I'm thinking of blackjack specifically, they have security measures in place to prevent you from counting cards. If they even suspect you're doing this, they can ban you from the casino.

For pvp games like poker, you can effectively use math to gain an edge over other players though.

Even in pvp games like poker maths dont work because in this you have to just follow some strategy and have to observe the opposite player statistics and play according to it and you can win it.
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September 27, 2017, 11:48:46 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

NO it will not, Math can be only use to calculate your earnings and lose but it cannot be use in gambling. In gambling if you have skills, talent and luck you will have the better chance of winnings. If using Math can guarantee their winnings they will be probably a millionaires now and everyone will follow their path thru mathematics.
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September 28, 2017, 03:52:56 AM
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Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink

 
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September 28, 2017, 03:59:34 AM
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Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink

last night i talk to my friend about using math in gambling. he said that it could be a way but we can not always win. there is still a chance for us to get big loss because the programs is design for making us to loss. but if somehow we can win the games, then he said its maybe our luck works best so we can win. he don't want to tell me more about how to use math to calculate the probability of our chance in dice game so he can win.

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September 28, 2017, 04:26:36 AM
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Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.

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September 28, 2017, 06:47:22 AM
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Depending on the games, while old blackjacks used to have 1/2 decks and then shuffling it was an easy way to count cards at that time, like the movie " 21 BlackJack, is a very good example of what doing good at maths can bring you playing life  hacks with them, the other game that I'm confident for my own experience are Poker based games, is all about blinds, positions and blinds despite the fact that this actually works pretty well for No Limit Holdem and Pot Limit Omaha the most.
If you are interested in getting in touch with Poker and became an EV+ player I can suggest you a few books to read and a few examples on how to start from the scratch, just pm me.

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September 28, 2017, 07:14:05 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
yes thats applicable in gambling like in primedice i have a technique like that then do bet with no scared even its big because if you afraid your bitcoin will have big chance that you lose,me i always bet big even i lose thats gambling so better not play if your scared to lose

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September 28, 2017, 07:33:34 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
Actually Yes, i remember that there is a trivia about a Mathematics Degree graduate that studied the algorithm of a lotto for years and because of that she won twice. But for the case of the roulette games, that is possible but it may change every time depending on the force given, the environment and also the movement and the force of the outside elements may affect the result
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September 28, 2017, 09:16:55 AM
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Depends on the game you are playing, if for example, you are just playing dice, then there is no mathematical method or system or whatever that could help you. Since there is really little that can be done if you know the odds of winning or not. However, this could be used in games like poker where you can count cards which by the way is all about being good at math.
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September 28, 2017, 09:25:34 AM
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maybe math can help you to increase your chance winning but i personally didn't believe that because the results from playing majority gambling games still depend on your luck but i have been hearing that there is one person very genius and calculated every percentages on blackjack game and after several years research he could get the formula with small percentages of losses but i don't know if in roulette game this is will works too

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September 28, 2017, 09:49:35 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

In certain games perhaps but not in luck based games. You can do.all the math you can and make yourself believe that it'll make a difference but in the end it won't.

 
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September 28, 2017, 10:10:50 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Well it does and it does not, now when I say it does I mean see I normally play on cricket and football, so yes I do add up the statistics, how many times has the team won, what's their average, vs the opposite team average, then I add the manager history vs the other person, at most of times I do get it right. Then there are times I don't get it right, cause of the form, sudden injuries, rain so not all maths can get you right.
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September 28, 2017, 10:13:07 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
Actually Yes, i remember that there is a trivia about a Mathematics Degree graduate that studied the algorithm of a lotto for years and because of that she won twice. But for the case of the roulette games, that is possible but it may change every time depending on the force given, the environment and also the movement and the force of the outside elements may affect the result

There is also a movie that where Mathematics are used by teenagers to analyze gambling games. They have managed to beat the house many times and earn a lot of money from it. You are right, I have also heard that there are studies regarding Mathematics beating gambling. It maybe hard to believe especially logically but it maybe possible as well. Statistics are the main branch of Mathematics that is used to beat gambling games.

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September 28, 2017, 10:21:13 AM
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This article doesn't state that you can win at roulette by using math, it says this at the end:

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We can dress up the layout of the wheel, the layout of the betting cloth, our number selection and our money management system however we like, but the maths is always there, quietly working against us. You might as well just have fun, pick random numbers and trust to Lady Luck. Either that, or do as Einstein suggested and steal chips (not that we’d recommend it).

So no, it's not possible to win at roulette just by using math.

For other games it's possible, but keep in mind that casino's are doing everything in their power to prevent you from doing so.
I'm thinking of blackjack specifically, they have security measures in place to prevent you from counting cards. If they even suspect you're doing this, they can ban you from the casino.

For pvp games like poker, you can effectively use math to gain an edge over other players though.

I'm with this guy. Math alone probably can't help you win at roulette considering the timing for you to do any sort of calculation based off of the speed of the ball and the speed of the table and then place bets when taking that in to consideration. I've read about these "roulette computers" but then again I'm not so sure how good they are and if it's really worth the risk to use one.

Nice little article but a bit flawed IMO.

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September 28, 2017, 10:59:32 AM
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Gambling is an uncertain game and we just rely on luck. I do not think mathematics would matter in the gambling game. Whatever we do like doing calculations then it will not have a significant impact. Mathematics will not mean in gambling and gambling does not require math to be able to achieve victory. Only luck can change everything. So multiply prayer than you should think to calculate what you want to get.
Wait, I don't agree with you then how about if we play by increasing the chance of winning, it does not mean we have used the math for can win because we know if using other menthod the chance for win is small and that's not included give impact to win. sorry if i got wrong catch.

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September 28, 2017, 11:27:22 AM
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Maths will definitively help you to prove that there are no profitable method for the player in simple gambling games based on luck/randomness (dice, roulette...)

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September 28, 2017, 11:46:28 AM
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Maths will definitively help you to prove that there are no profitable method for the player in simple gambling games based on luck/randomness (dice, roulette...)

Haha, exactly. Use math as it was intended to be used. To prove theories and give you answers. The answer in this case is that no matter how long you play you'll always play at a disadvantage Smiley.

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