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January 03, 2018, 10:57:30 PM
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No math wont help anybody into gambling zone, gamble is a two sword one side is lucky and the other one is risk, there is nothing you can do to avoid those. Otherwise we would see a lot people very healthy, gambling scripts are made to be random soo no one can predict neither the owner. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.
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January 03, 2018, 11:03:10 PM
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No math wont help anybody into gambling zone, gamble is a two sword one side is lucky and the other one is risk, there is nothing you can do to avoid those. Otherwise we would see a lot people very healthy, gambling scripts are made to be random soo no one can predict neither the owner. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.

I believe math can help with gambling, it may not help entirely on the manual input but if someone create a script that solve hashes, it can really help winning the games.  As far as I know there are two hashes that are available, the one is from the server side and the other one is client side..  Though I am not sure about this setup unless I am mistaken, solving one of this will definitely break the games setup and will give us the result of every roll.

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January 04, 2018, 03:43:37 AM
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As long as they pay you 36:1 and they are 37 numbers or 38, there is no math that can help you in a long run.
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January 04, 2018, 03:48:58 AM
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there is many factors that help you win in gambling, maths is one of them. but, the real factor that help you win in gambling is your luck.. thats my opinion.
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January 04, 2018, 03:59:31 AM
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No math wont help anybody into gambling zone, gamble is a two sword one side is lucky and the other one is risk, there is nothing you can do to avoid those. Otherwise we would see a lot people very healthy, gambling scripts are made to be random soo no one can predict neither the owner. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.

I believe math can help with gambling, it may not help entirely on the manual input but if someone create a script that solve hashes, it can really help winning the games.  As far as I know there are two hashes that are available, the one is from the server side and the other one is client side..  Though I am not sure about this setup unless I am mistaken, solving one of this will definitely break the games setup and will give us the result of every roll.
Both said are true, it's just that it depends on the person who is trying to use it or something. If you try to make things that don't really work, then there's no sense in doing it. They are made to be unpredictable but you could make the winning chances higher if you apply mathematical probabilities that could help us in winning. It's not a sure way to win but it increases the chances of winning. I don't know if you could create a script that solves hashes, you could really predict that if you made it correctly.

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January 04, 2018, 04:43:42 AM
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Math can help limit your loses in some casino games. But that is it. If a game is played in casino, this means that the house have an edge which can not be beaten with simple math. Everything is checked and rechecked again and again. The house always have an edge, if it doesn't have an edge will not have it on a game floor.
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January 04, 2018, 08:44:56 PM
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Yes but only if you become such a tech geek who can actually go into and calculate algorithms using which these gambling casinos operate. Except this there is no way your maths could help in gambling. If this was possible you would see tons of gambling companies who would be hiring mathematics topper from universities gambling is fate and a little bit brain.
You made a great point about the role of mathematicians in gambling, the algorithms included in gambling games are understood by some experts and they brief to people online on some platforms. But you can never rely on these algorithms or tricks. Gambling is a cruel world and it can prove you wrong and make you broke in a matter of minutes.
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January 05, 2018, 09:07:37 AM
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Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!

Yeah I definitely agree in this, maths can help when it comes to sports betting and some card games (poker). As far as slot games go.. I wouldn't trust any system when it comes to that! Roulette and black jack i only play at land based casinos.
I sort of agree with you because there are times when a person needs to calculate various aspects in poker or even sometimes in Blackjack because there are times when you are tempted to hit the next card while actually holding back is the rather better option mathematically but mostly it's all about luck and the control over one's gambling.

Personally I do find that maths can help you in rather restricting yourself from gambling because one who knows math will quickly realize that winning against a house edge is almost impossible and in the favor of the house. Apart from that maths I cannot think of any other way in the helping of a gambler, yeah sometimes it can be good to calculate parlay bets and sometimes to do arbitrage.
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Yeah.Thats why i never heard any mathematician got millioner in playing casino. Alrhough for me its an advantage as what i said in my previous post. Its hard to be hooked in casino you might lose everything and that somewhat depressing.
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January 05, 2018, 10:28:35 AM
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Yes but only if you become such a tech geek who can actually go into and calculate algorithms using which these gambling casinos operate. Except this there is no way your maths could help in gambling. If this was possible you would see tons of gambling companies who would be hiring mathematics topper from universities gambling is fate and a little bit brain.
You made a great point about the role of mathematicians in gambling, the algorithms included in gambling games are understood by some experts and they brief to people online on some platforms. But you can never rely on these algorithms or tricks. Gambling is a cruel world and it can prove you wrong and make you broke in a matter of minutes.

I agree this is a great point he has made. However, even if you are the smartest man alive, you cannot still win against the casino. If it was possible then we would have seen someone already do it. But right now no one has done it.
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January 05, 2018, 11:11:50 AM
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I am quite skeptical about these claims. I used to read a lot of books dealing with the usage of maths and statistics in gambling (especially the ones by Avery Cardoza and Lyle Stuart). But they never worked for me. On the other hand, my biggest profits happened when I gambled blindly without the usage of any mathematical formulas.
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January 05, 2018, 11:30:55 AM
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Yes but only if you become such a tech geek who can actually go into and calculate algorithms using which these gambling casinos operate. Except this there is no way your maths could help in gambling. If this was possible you would see tons of gambling companies who would be hiring mathematics topper from universities gambling is fate and a little bit brain.
You made a great point about the role of mathematicians in gambling, the algorithms included in gambling games are understood by some experts and they brief to people online on some platforms. But you can never rely on these algorithms or tricks. Gambling is a cruel world and it can prove you wrong and make you broke in a matter of minutes.
Whatever the reason I still will not believe that math and analysis can make us gain victory in the gambling game. I've been through a lot of things and all the victories in the gambling game are just a luck. We only risk our lives on a fortune and that is a bad thing because our lives will be greatly affected. Many people are experiencing changes in their lives after knowing gambling game, so if we are not ready to take a bad risk then do not ever try to play gambling game however the reason !!!!
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January 07, 2018, 06:11:50 AM
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Sure thing math helps when gambling, maybe not the actual math but being number friendly is a huge advantage
Not always because there is nothing one can do in dice gambling with their maths since under/over have equal chances. But I agree that maths can be helpful if someone is doing arbitrage betting or trading of odds because that can help you quickly realize how much you should bet on which event and what's the best time to do so.
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January 08, 2018, 08:33:06 AM
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Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!
Please can you put some light on how maths can increase "chances of winning" ?
Because though I agree that maths will certainly help you make more strategies and calculate various things but actually at the end its just about luck and the edge involved. You cannot win in long term if you play against a significant edge but you can win in short term sometimes.
I have the same thinking in this regard my friend. I don’t know why people think that math’s concept can make you able to win the game. I can reach to the point that math can only help you to maintain your records as they require some calculations in them.

Gambling is totally a luck dependent thing and If it’s wrong then why people say after losing that it was your day? Why they don’t say that today, your concepts were strong.
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January 09, 2018, 06:36:40 PM
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Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!
Please can you put some light on how maths can increase "chances of winning" ?
Because though I agree that maths will certainly help you make more strategies and calculate various things but actually at the end its just about luck and the edge involved. You cannot win in long term if you play against a significant edge but you can win in short term sometimes.
I have the same thinking in this regard my friend. I don’t know why people think that math’s concept can make you able to win the game. I can reach to the point that math can only help you to maintain your records as they require some calculations in them.

Gambling is totally a luck dependent thing and If it’s wrong then why people say after losing that it was your day? Why they don’t say that today, your concepts were strong.

It's not really about relying on maths to win, if it were that easy everyone would do it and casinos would be out of business. There are however maths that can give you an advantage and let you look at it differently. You have to stop thinking about the actual game and think about yourself and your actions!

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January 09, 2018, 07:30:21 PM
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Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!
Please can you put some light on how maths can increase "chances of winning" ?
Because though I agree that maths will certainly help you make more strategies and calculate various things but actually at the end its just about luck and the edge involved. You cannot win in long term if you play against a significant edge but you can win in short term sometimes.
I have the same thinking in this regard my friend. I don’t know why people think that math’s concept can make you able to win the game. I can reach to the point that math can only help you to maintain your records as they require some calculations in them.

Gambling is totally a luck dependent thing and If it’s wrong then why people say after losing that it was your day? Why they don’t say that today, your concepts were strong.

It's not really about relying on maths to win, if it were that easy everyone would do it and casinos would be out of business. There are however maths that can give you an advantage and let you look at it differently. You have to stop thinking about the actual game and think about yourself and your actions!

Probably sometimes maths helps in gambling but not all time , because gambling is luck based game and success and loss are possible for all person's who interested in gambling so we can't judge gambling very easily .









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January 10, 2018, 12:47:49 PM
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Sure thing math helps when gambling, maybe not the actual math but being number friendly is a huge advantage
Not always because there is nothing one can do in dice gambling with their maths since under/over have equal chances. But I agree that maths can be helpful if someone is doing arbitrage betting or trading of odds because that can help you quickly realize how much you should bet on which event and what's the best time to do so.
Dice game is different, it's a luck based game so all you can do is just rely on your luck to win.
You might win with some little analysis but with the house edge we know that our chance to win is very low and no strategy that will work in the long run. Better use your skills in math in skilled based games as for sure you can benefit from your effort and might develop yourself to a profitable gambler.

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January 10, 2018, 01:54:32 PM
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I am quite skeptical about these claims. I used to read a lot of books dealing with the usage of maths and statistics in gambling (especially the ones by Avery Cardoza and Lyle Stuart). But they never worked for me. On the other hand, my biggest profits happened when I gambled blindly without the usage of any mathematical formulas.
never heard about both names  Roll Eyes , however it is just a delusion when people think math are everything on determine the chance, sometimes they think when you are clever enough to use your math skills you can have a guarantee winning.

soundslike completely a bullshit you hear there , nobody can use math to make you win in gambling , the outcome will always random.

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January 10, 2018, 06:21:08 PM
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I don't think so.Because gambling always depends on luck.So no strategy or no maths can sort out your problem in this format.You need only luck to win the bet, nothing else.But I don't why some people thinks math can help is in gambling.But it's not true.They actually not winning for maths.It's for luck only.

Math is need in solving problems.Math can better your luck.So, IMO is math totally not related in gambling.

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January 10, 2018, 07:06:53 PM
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I don't think so.Because gambling always depends on luck.So no strategy or no maths can sort out your problem in this format.You need only luck to win the bet, nothing else.But I don't why some people thinks math can help is in gambling.But it's not true.They actually not winning for maths.It's for luck only.

Math is need in solving problems.Math can better your luck.So, IMO is math totally not related in gambling.

math just show us that we might have better chance to play in a game that has lower house edge rather than those with higher house edge. It doesnt help us to make our luck better. In the end luck is the main factor so besides having good knowledge and good mathematical skill, but when you decided to play for fun all of that doesnt matter
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January 12, 2018, 07:56:53 AM
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Sure thing math helps when gambling, maybe not the actual math but being number friendly is a huge advantage
Not always because there is nothing one can do in dice gambling with their maths since under/over have equal chances. But I agree that maths can be helpful if someone is doing arbitrage betting or trading of odds because that can help you quickly realize how much you should bet on which event and what's the best time to do so.
Dice game is different, it's a luck based game so all you can do is just rely on your luck to win.
You might win with some little analysis but with the house edge we know that our chance to win is very low and no strategy that will work in the long run. Better use your skills in math in skilled based games as for sure you can benefit from your effort and might develop yourself to a profitable gambler.
Casino is pure gambling game so luck is totally involved in it. If you will be lucky enough, then you will win no matter how bigger player your opponent is. The thing that matters here a lot is your luck. Analyses play a vital role in the winning of sports bet.

Analysis really work in sports betting because it becomes a little bit easy for you to win when you play sports betting if you will be having a sound knowledge of the game on which you are betting.
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