Can maths help you win in gambling ?

[Wall-ET]

Well counting cards (in the BJ example) does give you edge, that's why casino forbid it  in any possible way.

Also doing the math to see when you have bigger odds to win and then going BIG and when odds are low you go min bet, then you can have the odds in your favor.
Just watch 21 and you will see how it is done.

Remember that this will trow you out of the casino, as it is against house rules (exactly because it turns the odds in your favor and the house does not like that).


You can play all the games for fun and beat them each time, but in real casino, as I said few posts above, they do everything to figure them and forbit them and they ban anyone who try to use them in order to turn the odds in his favor

Counting cards requires good memory. Math won't help you if you can't remember cards.

If you can not remember 1+1 = 2
The math will not work for you...

Counting cards gives you the input for the math you need to do to see the odds.

btw counting cards is just starting from 0 and doing math +1 or -1 => didn't know you do not know what card counting is and still try to make smart comments

Most people don't really know what card counting is.. They've seen some movie or heard some story and they think that only rainman can do it... It's not simple, I won't say that but it's not rocket science either.

It is just increment or decrement a number by 1, just need to know what cards are... simple as that...
It is harder to learn the rules of BJ then to count cards on BJ

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[biskitop]

I do not think any lessons or theories are effective to help win the gamble. Luck and tranquility is what plays a big role in a gambling.

[denny27]

Basically I think it can help, at least with math we can calculating the targets to be achieved / calculating the profits and loss of our balances being played. It can also help to decide to stop playing or keep playing I guess. but somehow if on the games that was played, any games that was played.. I think it's still depends on our luck, that was become a permanent characteristic in gambling I guess because gambling's games very randomly.

[Hhampuz]

Well counting cards (in the BJ example) does give you edge, that's why casino forbid it  in any possible way.

Also doing the math to see when you have bigger odds to win and then going BIG and when odds are low you go min bet, then you can have the odds in your favor.
Just watch 21 and you will see how it is done.

Remember that this will trow you out of the casino, as it is against house rules (exactly because it turns the odds in your favor and the house does not like that).


You can play all the games for fun and beat them each time, but in real casino, as I said few posts above, they do everything to figure them and forbit them and they ban anyone who try to use them in order to turn the odds in his favor

Counting cards requires good memory. Math won't help you if you can't remember cards.

If you can not remember 1+1 = 2
The math will not work for you...

Counting cards gives you the input for the math you need to do to see the odds.

btw counting cards is just starting from 0 and doing math +1 or -1 => didn't know you do not know what card counting is and still try to make smart comments

Most people don't really know what card counting is.. They've seen some movie or heard some story and they think that only rainman can do it... It's not simple, I won't say that but it's not rocket science either.

It is just increment or decrement a number by 1, just need to know what cards are... simple as that...
It is harder to learn the rules of BJ then to count cards on BJ

More or less yeah, if you practice on your memory and how to successfully memorize in good order you can earn some on it . But that's definitely not for everyone.. only a handfull that can memorize that good .

[crwth]

I do not think any lessons or theories are effective to help win the gamble. Luck and tranquility is what plays a big role in a gambling.

It plays a big role we all know that luck definitely one of the key factors to win in gambling. But everything that could be learned and understood as a lesson would definitely have an impact someway or some how. It is like studying, some people say that they don't know where or when they will use the subjects that they take in school but they take it to be stronger and more smarter in their decisions.

[Wall-ET]

It is just increment or decrement a number by 1, just need to know what cards are... simple as that...
It is harder to learn the rules of BJ then to count cards on BJ

More or less yeah, if you practice on your memory and how to successfully memorize in good order you can earn some on it . But that's definitely not for everyone.. only a handfull that can memorize that good .

What order?!?!
you need to know how to count to 52; how to add 1 to a number up to 52 and how to subtract 1 from the number.
If you can't do that I wonder how you can type on the keyboard...

If you have trouble remembering s single number (up to 2 digits), then how do you ever remember your name, or anything else in this matter...

Just want to note again: if you do NOT KNOW when counting cards is, do not comment on it!!!

After all you DO NOT have to remember every card (each card is +1 or -1) and you start from 0, so you add the value of each card to the 0 and you remember the number, one number and that is all....

Please inform yourself before commenting on something you do not know at all!!!!

[ssuchy]

I do not think any lessons or theories are effective to help win the gamble. Luck and tranquility is what plays a big role in a gambling.

It plays a big role we all know that luck definitely one of the key factors to win in gambling. But everything that could be learned and understood as a lesson would definitely have an impact someway or some how. It is like studying, some people say that they don't know where or when they will use the subjects that they take in school but they take it to be stronger and more smarter in their decisions.

The fact is that most gamblers simply have a strong intuition. But if a person has immense knowledge in mathematics, in many games he can calculate what and how to do. This is a kind of art and I believe in it.

[MMA]

I do not think any lessons or theories are effective to help win the gamble. Luck and tranquility is what plays a big role in a gambling.

It plays a big role we all know that luck definitely one of the key factors to win in gambling. But everything that could be learned and understood as a lesson would definitely have an impact someway or some how. It is like studying, some people say that they don't know where or when they will use the subjects that they take in school but they take it to be stronger and more smarter in their decisions.

The fact is that most gamblers simply have a strong intuition. But if a person has immense knowledge in mathematics, in many games he can calculate what and how to do. This is a kind of art and I believe in it.

i think that mathematical calculation can help you a little in some formate of gambling, but not as such as we are thinking about. because gambling is mostly depend on our luck. and if a person is lucky he can make good profit from gambling without any calculation. In fact there are some people who can be lucky for most of the time but most of the people remain as unlucky and they lose money even have good calculation.

[buyinbtc]

I do not think any lessons or theories are effective to help win the gamble. Luck and tranquility is what plays a big role in a gambling.

Of course that gambling is only luck based, but i am sure that math can help gambler to win, even if it is still risky.  For example, martingale strategy in dice games, it is based around probabilities, so that you'd have very high chance of winning, and some people say that it's actually working, only downside of this strategy is that one lose streak is all you need to lose money.

[Phalo]

Absolutely, I believe math can help. It always you to count fast. Since most people either don't like math or are terrible at it. This surely gives one an added advantage

[goku1525]

Absolutely, I believe math can help. It always you to count fast. Since most people either don't like math or are terrible at it. This surely gives one an added advantage

Probably yes, but even how master you're through computing numbers in required gambling games like lottery and tickets, it's still useless  if you're unlucky enough in gambling. Gambling is meant to be pure entertainment and basically should be for fun and just that alone.

[FLoving]

If you are a mathematical genius and you know the algorithm of a certain game then your chances on winning is high.
Just like on some movies that i saw where a group of geniuses play poker and read the cards algorithm and eventually they won but been chased by the casino.
Math will help you win the game if you know how to calculate well on the game that you want to bet.

Maybe Yes, but its only a case to case basis depending of what kind of game it is, and i only believe that mathematical skills can be use to win a game those in game card only because you have to calculate all the cards and its distribution with respect of your cards that you are going to play. But other games that mostly involving computer is unpredictable because it was program as random mode and it is hard to calculate by only using your mind and no tools because in every action was compose of millions of numbers or the binary numbers.

Yeah you are right the one who is good at Math could find this skill to be useful in various fields mostly the card games but in short, the risk of losing or chance to win it depends entirely on the luck of a person .therefore, in my opinion being good at math is not of much use when it comes to gambling. I myself have won many times but I hate this subject.

[mOgliE]

Yup it can, by keeping you away from it 

You got only 2 types of games: against the house or against other players
Against the house there is no need for maths or anything because you're just going to lose. Maths are just going to tell you exactly how much and how fast that's all.
Against the players here it can be useful. But the biggest part is about yourself and not letting  you tilt cause you can be as good as you want when you start to tilt you lose.

[Sirjamesadeiza]

Yes and yes, simple math using personal formulas had help me win lottery in the past, Atimes it doesn't work. as unbelievable as it may sound I hate math back in school but I never failed it.
Gambling is bad and I have stopped it

[mirakal]

Yes and yes, simple math using personal formulas had help me win lottery in the past, Atimes it doesn't work. as unbelievable as it may sound I hate math back in school but I never failed it.
Gambling is bad and I have stopped it

I think luck is the main reason why you won in lottery, math is not really vital in games which is called as luck based games like lottery because it is drawn based on a random numbers. I think it would be more useful in sports betting because when you are good in math you can analyze the information very well.

[emberbekas]

Yes and yes, simple math using personal formulas had help me win lottery in the past, Atimes it doesn't work. as unbelievable as it may sound I hate math back in school but I never failed it.
Gambling is bad and I have stopped it

I think luck is the main reason why you won in lottery, math is not really vital in games which is called as luck based games like lottery because it is drawn based on a random numbers. I think it would be more useful in sports betting because when you are good in math you can analyze the information very well.

True, math is not a decisive factor in our victory in gambling. If only someone could win gambling any time with the exact same mathematical formula, then I would change my mind regarding math in gambling.

[FasTroy]

Yes and yes, simple math using personal formulas had help me win lottery in the past, Atimes it doesn't work. as unbelievable as it may sound I hate math back in school but I never failed it.
Gambling is bad and I have stopped it

I think luck is the main reason why you won in lottery, math is not really vital in games which is called as luck based games like lottery because it is drawn based on a random numbers. I think it would be more useful in sports betting because when you are good in math you can analyze the information very well.

True, math is not a decisive factor in our victory in gambling. If only someone could win gambling any time with the exact same mathematical formula, then I would change my mind regarding math in gambling.

Yes, I agree, With maths you can't always win with same formula as you said, because gambling depends on luck, so sometimes even the odd it will be 1.01, anyone will said that the chance here is too high, It's mean around 99% win, but then you can find yourself lost with and odd like that, It's not logic at all, rather than maths.

[Wall-ET]

Yes and yes, simple math using personal formulas had help me win lottery in the past, Atimes it doesn't work. as unbelievable as it may sound I hate math back in school but I never failed it.
Gambling is bad and I have stopped it

I think luck is the main reason why you won in lottery, math is not really vital in games which is called as luck based games like lottery because it is drawn based on a random numbers. I think it would be more useful in sports betting because when you are good in math you can analyze the information very well.

imagine this:
There is a lotto 6/49

You have to pick 6 numbers from 1 up to 49.

You do some math and you see that the odds of winning is 1 to 14mil.
This is simple math.
So you buy 14mil tickets and you win 100% => this is math and you have no luck in here, no matter how unlucky you are you will win 100% of the time just because you used math

So stop saying luck has anything to do with this. it is all math.
Ahh and yeah if you play one combination and you win this is luck, if you play same combination all the time and you win => pure luck!
even if you play 14mil times same combination and you win it is luck, but you can use the math to make it 100% win no matter how unlucky you are...


P.S.: Unless you so unlucky you get hit by a bus once you won...
Then no math can help you...
But in all other cases math is what can help you win

[yojodojo21]

Math is the subject used to create gambling sites, if we are saying that math can help us then it maybe, in some easy gambling like betting you just have to calculate the amount you bet but all in all the word "luck" always matter, math is coded but luckiness is imparted if it is for you.

[bite.coin]

its depend what platform are you gambling in, if based on luck its useless it think, but if any statitical will counting in thats helping i guess