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November 23, 2017, 09:56:32 AM
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I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player.  Smiley
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November 23, 2017, 10:19:32 AM
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Mathematics is very useful in our everyday life. My teacher told us that if we want to get rich, we must first be financially intelligent. He also told us that if we are sad, all we can do is reach for a calculator and compute for the amount of money we might own in the future.

Math is helpful in gambling because you can learn about the probabilities and chances that is happening in gambling. Gambling is always a risk because there are gambles that the lose chances are higher than the chances of winning.
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November 24, 2017, 12:38:29 PM
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I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player.  Smiley

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.

 
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November 24, 2017, 01:38:10 PM
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This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   
Math’s is just the subject which can help you in calculating profits and losses but it cannot help you in winning the game and that too in gambling. Gambling as we all know is a gem which is totally dependent on luck and I really don’t believe that there is any connection between luck and mathematics, Lol. Mathematics is just there to tell you that you are going in loss.

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November 24, 2017, 01:56:19 PM
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This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   
Math’s is just the subject which can help you in calculating profits and losses but it cannot help you in winning the game and that too in gambling. Gambling as we all know is a gem which is totally dependent on luck and I really don’t believe that there is any connection between luck and mathematics, Lol. Mathematics is just there to tell you that you are going in loss.

Well you could use math to calculate the odds.
Based on the odds of winning you can calculate (again math) how much and when to bet in order to optimize win.

So yeah if you know math and you know how to use it, it will help you win!
If you do not understand it => then you are doomed to never win...


I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player.  Smiley

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.

This is all you need. In fact if you are able to calculate when to bet and how much to bet you can win in any game.

Let's say you toss a coin.
You got only two options heads or tails.
so it will monitor and tell you when to bet.
As for the first toss to be hears (or tails) is 50% it will tell you to bet 0.
Second time to toss heads again has fallen to 25% and so on until you decide you are ok to bet.
So if you say it is only luck, and you are totally unlucky, you can set this to be lower then 1%.
So once you hit that odds you make a bet and you win, if not you can then double your bet and so on until you win, as by then the possibility will get insane low (better chance to be killed by alien bacteria that has just arrived from a meteoroid that has just landed on the other side of the platen in the next 5 seconds...

So no matter how unlucky you are math can help you win in any game of chance, you just need to understand the math and know how to use it.


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November 24, 2017, 02:47:15 PM
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This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   
Math’s is just the subject which can help you in calculating profits and losses but it cannot help you in winning the game and that too in gambling. Gambling as we all know is a gem which is totally dependent on luck and I really don’t believe that there is any connection between luck and mathematics, Lol. Mathematics is just there to tell you that you are going to lose.
No mate there is a connection b/w maths and gambling. But I agree that luck is the main role in gambling to win our bets. Some professional gamblers will use this math method to win their bets. How and what is that strategy I don't know. You want to know how the maths will work in gambling then watch 21 movies.
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November 24, 2017, 03:07:43 PM
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I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player.  Smiley

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.
Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!
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November 24, 2017, 03:42:38 PM
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A maths lesson in probability will certainly help you prove that every gambling game will make you lose your money in the long term. That's all. There's nothing to do with maths otherwise when gambling. It's all luck.

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November 25, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
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Math could help you win a gamble in a way with the use of probability to predict your roll but it also depends on your luck or your toss of your dice.
It basically has a little impact on your results but not completely. You must not be making progress in gambling until you are not luck on that one day. Things can be on your side if you have excellent mathematics and you are throughout going on those probability and statistics. But at the end, again, it all comes to luck. If you are lucky best results be there to welcome you and vice versa.
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November 25, 2017, 03:17:04 PM
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This is all you need. In fact if you are able to calculate when to bet and how much to bet you can win in any game.

Let's say you toss a coin.
You got only two options heads or tails.
so it will monitor and tell you when to bet.
As for the first toss to be hears (or tails) is 50% it will tell you to bet 0.
Second time to toss heads again has fallen to 25% and so on until you decide you are ok to bet.
So if you say it is only luck, and you are totally unlucky, you can set this to be lower then 1%.
So once you hit that odds you make a bet and you win, if not you can then double your bet and so on until you win, as by then the possibility will get insane low (better chance to be killed by alien bacteria that has just arrived from a meteoroid that has just landed on the other side of the platen in the next 5 seconds...

So no matter how unlucky you are math can help you win in any game of chance, you just need to understand the math and know how to use it.
I can't believe what I am reading.
You sound like you know all gambling secrets, how to beat casino and I wonder why do you wear signature when you can beat casino with your math and strategies.
Also this whole toss story is wrong. You can toss coin 50 times, bet on head and it can fall on head 51 times, each roll is independent and your chance is always 50%, no matter how many times you toss coin. Chance for such combination(51 heads) is 0.0000000000001% but that is something different.
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November 25, 2017, 05:48:17 PM
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Partly yes,math can help you win but not 100% sure.it will just help you compute all the angles and calculate the rate of winning..expert gambler calculating all the movements and reactions of thier opponents to take advantage,and it applies math in calculating
I know that is your opinion but I will like to help you to be 100% sure. There is no mathematics that can help you win in gambling. If you think you are good in probability, some have said it can help in some games, but everything still totally balls down on luck and that is what gambling is all about.

Checking out the action or the reaction of your opponent does not have anything to do with mathematics, which is just normal human analysis which to me does not work all the time except you are playing with someone who is just not good and that is even dependent on game.
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November 25, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
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Partly yes,math can help you win but not 100% sure.it will just help you compute all the angles and calculate the rate of winning..expert gambler calculating all the movements and reactions of thier opponents to take advantage,and it applies math in calculating
I know that is your opinion but I will like to help you to be 100% sure. There is no mathematics that can help you win in gambling. If you think you are good in probability, some have said it can help in some games, but everything still totally balls down on luck and that is what gambling is all about.

Checking out the action or the reaction of your opponent does not have anything to do with mathematics, which is just normal human analysis which to me does not work all the time except you are playing with someone who is just not good and that is even dependent on game.
Well of course, it's the observation that people make when they are playing and that wouldn't hurt if you calculate your moves with that and that could add a significant chance of winning with your games and with the help of math, you could improve it more. It's not going to be easy but it's good to know.

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November 25, 2017, 11:00:30 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Maybe math can help us win on roulette or in dice games in terms of calculating how much reds will go for our bankroll. But still in gambling we still need some luck and must know how to stop when we have profit and not to be greedy....

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November 26, 2017, 12:14:14 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Maybe math can help us win on roulette or in dice games in terms of calculating how much reds will go for our bankroll. But still in gambling we still need some luck and must know how to stop when we have profit and not to be greedy....
They are random, math cannot help you to choose the correct bet but it can only help you to manage your bankroll.
It's a game where we have to consider playing it for fun only since there is a house edge and you will never win in the long run, let's be matured and know the difference of skilled based games to luck based, so we will decide on how we are going to manage our bets and bankroll.

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November 26, 2017, 12:18:15 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Yes, math can help you ---> without a doubt, one hundred percent positive!  But, you have to know how to apply the math.  So, when the math is against you, save your money and find an event where the math is for you.  That's the trick!  Do the math, calculate your expected value (EV), and determine your bet size based on those numbers.  Also, apply those same techniques to your bankroll taking variance into consideration.  Learn the math and you will fair much better in the long run.  Roulette has a house edge so your EV is negative ---> that means, save your money and find another proposition.  There are betting progressions that can be favorable with roulette, but casinos set measures in place to mitigate those advantages....so, learn the math and you will be able to distinguish the winning props from the losing props.
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November 26, 2017, 12:52:30 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Maybe math can help us win on roulette or in dice games in terms of calculating how much reds will go for our bankroll. But still in gambling we still need some luck and must know how to stop when we have profit and not to be greedy....
Well its already been proven that in most cases even we already anticipated those numbers of consecutive reds but still house knows how to work with our greediness and in the end of the day we still losing our money so its better to analyze your self first before dealing with gambling.
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November 26, 2017, 06:58:22 AM
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Indeed for gambling we have lots of confusion in it, because it is in gambling we also sometimes confused as to whether that was done right or wrong. But indeed to be able to get many of the advantages we also need calculations i.e. math, because every gambling also have the techniques or strategies so that they can get the victory. If it does not we do or we just let go about what we do, then the results will be obtained as just an unfortunate thing.
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November 26, 2017, 09:25:34 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Yes, math can help you ---> without a doubt, one hundred percent positive!  But, you have to know how to apply the math.  So, when the math is against you, save your money and find an event where the math is for you.  That's the trick!  Do the math, calculate your expected value (EV), and determine your bet size based on those numbers.  Also, apply those same techniques to your bankroll taking variance into consideration.  Learn the math and you will fair much better in the long run.  Roulette has a house edge so your EV is negative ---> that means, save your money and find another proposition.  There are betting progressions that can be favorable with roulette, but casinos set measures in place to mitigate those advantages....so, learn the math and you will be able to distinguish the winning props from the losing props.

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as I have stated before. But don't be fooled we  aren't talking quick easy money, its hard work.

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November 26, 2017, 12:08:18 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Maybe math can help us win on roulette or in dice games in terms of calculating how much reds will go for our bankroll. But still in gambling we still need some luck and must know how to stop when we have profit and not to be greedy....

I think your completely wrong because in both dice and roulette game no one can tell you how many reds or greens you will get continuously.

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November 26, 2017, 01:13:17 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Maybe math can help us win on roulette or in dice games in terms of calculating how much reds will go for our bankroll. But still in gambling we still need some luck and must know how to stop when we have profit and not to be greedy....

I think your completely wrong because in both dice and roulette game no one can tell you how many reds or greens you will get continuously.
Yes mate, Maths can't help us in gambling game based on luck, like dice games, or even in Live games, like sports games. The only thing that you will need is luck, because without luck, even if you predict very well, sometimes you find yourself lose with a bet that have a 90% or more to win.

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