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October 04, 2017, 07:02:27 AM
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Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.
I don’t agree with this that being good at math will help you to win while gambling .this is a fact that anyone who is good at math can grab the techniques of various games quite faster than the one who is having problems in calculations.

But the end of the line is that gambling is basically dependent upon the luck of the player. If you are a newbie in this field even then it is possible to win an ample amount of capital by being luckier than the opponent.

i don't think so because even if we are good in math, we still difficult to win in gambling games because the games is design with more difficulties  and not just simple calculation and its to make gamblers lose. i think with so many gamblers in the world, i am sure that they can calculate with good in math but i am not sure that they can even win the games with easy. but maybe there any gamblers around us that could do math with good and he can win with easy too because of his math strategy and his luck.

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October 04, 2017, 10:42:50 AM
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Maths will definitively help you to prove that there are no profitable method for the player in simple gambling games based on luck/randomness (dice, roulette...)

Haha, exactly. Use math as it was intended to be used. To prove theories and give you answers. The answer in this case is that no matter how long you play you'll always play at a disadvantage Smiley.
Hahahahahaha beautifully ended. Math have always been a tool for measuring and calculating loss and profits but yes for sure, in gambling it is really of no use. Nothing could make this game better than any worthless thing in this world.

Even mathematics failed at the end providing any solid, logical, numerical proof of this game being profitable.
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October 04, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
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Maths will definitively help you to prove that there are no profitable method for the player in simple gambling games based on luck/randomness (dice, roulette...)

Haha, exactly. Use math as it was intended to be used. To prove theories and give you answers. The answer in this case is that no matter how long you play you'll always play at a disadvantage Smiley.
Hahahahahaha beautifully ended. Math have always been a tool for measuring and calculating loss and profits but yes for sure, in gambling it is really of no use. Nothing could make this game better than any worthless thing in this world.

Even mathematics failed at the end providing any solid, logical, numerical proof of this game being profitable.

You are right concerning lucky based games, but there's at least one game which is not 100% lucky based, and the name of this game is poker. I've seen many times that in poker tournaments with hundreds of participants more than 50% of the players who are in top 20 are always the same people. If it were 100% based on luck we would see always different players in top 20. One have to apply their knowledge of probability to play poker on a good level. Of course it doesn't work in all cases but it works in most of them, and that's why good poker players win more frequently than average ones.

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October 04, 2017, 02:20:24 PM
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I think that mathematic can't help you in winning in gambling. First game that comes to my mind is black jack, but its not about mathematic, its about your memory, you need to remember all cards that passed and by that you know what cards are left in deck and with that your chances to win are high. Beside black jack other games are combination of skill and luck, there you need to play with some strategies but sometimes they work sometimes not, there is no universal method for winning all the time in gambling.
I don't know what can mathematic do in gambling, and to do some mathematic you need time, maybe some program can help but I doubt in that.
Gamble for fun, discover your own strategy and have good time. Don't think that there is winning methods, you will constantly be disappointed in the end.



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October 04, 2017, 04:05:45 PM
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From a mathematical point of view, the game of chance are experiments . It will calculated the exactly your percent of winning or losing for you, to make a clear choice to go or not. Specially with the casino gambling, Poker is a clearly example about calculated the chances of winning. So it's totally can help you much in gambling.
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October 04, 2017, 04:13:08 PM
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The mathematics of gambling are a collection of probability applications encountered in games of chance and can be included in game theory. From a mathematical point of view, the games of chance are experiments generating various types of aleatory events, the probability of which can be calculated by using the properties of probability on a finite space of events. So it's totally can help you much in gambling.

Not that much if you think more of it. Gambling is a luck based game, still depends on what and how you are playing it. There are some informants that I know talked about this but moving certain school to other is really, I think is not a good thing.
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October 04, 2017, 04:24:10 PM
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The mathematics of gambling are a collection of probability applications encountered in games of chance and can be included in game theory. From a mathematical point of view, the games of chance are experiments generating various types of aleatory events, the probability of which can be calculated by using the properties of probability on a finite space of events. So it's totally can help you much in gambling.

Not that much if you think more of it. Gambling is a luck based game, still depends on what and how you are playing it. There are some informants that I know talked about this but moving certain school to other is really, I think is not a good thing.
I really agree with what you say. gambling is not calculated and predictable. fully gambling game is a thing that relies heavily on a fortune. if you have a desire then I think gambling is not the right one. there may be only a few predictable games like sport betting, but that could also end up beyond expectations. the conclusion that any type of gambling game is a thing that can not be calculated and analyzed with mathematics. gambling is a thing that hopes to a fortune and a fortune is a very uncertain thing.
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October 04, 2017, 04:39:56 PM
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I definitely believe math can be used in some casino games as winning is built around probability but this is also a 50-50 chance which isn't foolproof either but its easier to use math on sports gambling were time and human fatigue can all be considered to make calculated predictions.
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October 04, 2017, 04:47:28 PM
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Mathematics is all about logic and numbers while in gambling there is logic, numbers and luck. But solving some algorithms or scripts on a gambling site with the use of Mathematics, I don't think it's possible to help you win in any gambling game. Some statistics can help you to win through sports betting and in that way I guess it can help you but only that way otherwise, it can't.

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October 04, 2017, 05:48:24 PM
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Even if mathematics can do some help in gambling, I am sure quite a number of us will still fail to win. One subject I hate the most is mathematics and I am not sure I can understand anything beyond normal mathematics to the extent that whenever I try to understand the house edge and the basis behind bank rolling, the moment the calculation there is getting too complex, I just give up on it. Imagine I will have to do complex calculation to win, I will rather pass but fortunately for me in the games I play, no element of mathematics is involved.
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October 04, 2017, 06:34:58 PM
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I definitely believe math can be used in some casino games as winning is built around probability but this is also a 50-50 chance which isn't foolproof either but its easier to use math on sports gambling were time and human fatigue can all be considered to make calculated predictions.
for poker related games you can use the calculation by counting the number of cards  and cards moves also with the mathematics only so we can utilize maths in gambling for sure. You cannot calculate your profit all the te bitcoin because lose will be

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October 04, 2017, 09:02:17 PM
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Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.
I don’t agree with this that being good at math will help you to win while gambling .this is a fact that anyone who is good at math can grab the techniques of various games quite faster than the one who is having problems in calculations.

But the end of the line is that gambling is basically dependent upon the luck of the player. If you are a newbie in this field even then it is possible to win an ample amount of capital by being luckier than the opponent.

i don't think so because even if we are good in math, we still difficult to win in gambling games because the games is design with more difficulties  and not just simple calculation and its to make gamblers lose. i think with so many gamblers in the world, i am sure that they can calculate with good in math but i am not sure that they can even win the games with easy. but maybe there any gamblers around us that could do math with good and he can win with easy too because of his math strategy and his luck.
True or not it is still be a mystery because There is some movies that tell us, who have good skills math, can win easily in gambling games and also there is some videos that tell us how to read the card with math.

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October 04, 2017, 10:05:15 PM
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The only thing maths can help you with when it comes to gambling, is help you understand that you'll lose. The house ALWAYS wins,  and math cannot prevent that. In some card games, math can increase your odds of winning, but you'll most likely lose here too.

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October 04, 2017, 11:57:23 PM
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Well, math is great and if you know it well, that's good. But also roulette and most games are math based, profesionally. There are always measured risks and percent of win, this means when casino offers game and especially roulette, they know it's profit chanse well, without that they wouldn't offer that game. Everything is learnt well when by their side to prove that win is on their hand. But if gambler knows math well, he/she (usually he) won't have any better opportunity but it will be helpful of course in some ways. Still some casino blocks your ID if you win much and often from them, well that's like that where I live.

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October 05, 2017, 03:25:18 AM
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No way. The picks are very random and betting is not a problem solving in the first place. It that is true then we would hear mathematician wizards or geniuses got rich because of gambling and cashing out a lot of money everytime they play.
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October 05, 2017, 04:06:09 AM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I preferably going to believe what Albert Einstein's said about winning a roulette. Let me skip this game, I have read a fact article that there was a math teacher that managed to win the lottery for four times. If you are going to study on how the process of the gambling game you are playing. It can help you to give some idea but it will never give you a guarantee that you'll win.

Agreed! Math can give us an idea on how to play the game. It can help us to treat our game as well. If for example, someone able to win at gambling by using math, I bet he/she can't do it at everytime. Gambling will always depend on luck no matter what method we use.

Math is all about logic and processes this strengthen's your knowledge with it so it will really be a great help for you to win. But wait you said that Math can give us an idea how to play the game and in the end you said that gambling will always depend on luck no matter what method we use? So you are countering what you had said about Math that can give us an idea / strategy and help to win the game.

Have one or more ideas while gambling doesn't mean we will always win. Ideas are just a way to try to catch our luck. Hence I said, math can give ideas but gambling will always depends on luck. The end result of all gambling actions will be determined by how luck a person is. Not by anything else.

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October 05, 2017, 04:35:41 AM
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I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

That is right. Math can't help you, but it can assist you in some points. There are some branches of Mathematics that can help you with these type of activities. There are the probabilities and statistics. Probability is mostly used in gambling, the proof is the percentage of win you can see whenever you roll your dices in some gambling sites, everything has their percentage of winning in gambling but it is pretty small. IN terms of Statistics, I think when most people use that kind of trick or skill and won a lot, you will be doing the same thing, you will start to search or ask some people about gambling, gather some data that can help you win.

I remember having a lesson in my math class before wherein we calculated the probability of winning in a game of dice. It won't help you win because computing or calculating the probability won't tell you what to bet on but it could help you in making gambling decisions and bets. By knowing the probability, you will be able to deduce or tell whether you should bet higher or whether your chances of winning is very low.

So in a way, yes, it could help you win given that you apply it properly.

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October 05, 2017, 04:55:36 AM
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I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

That is right. Math can't help you, but it can assist you in some points. There are some branches of Mathematics that can help you with these type of activities. There are the probabilities and statistics. Probability is mostly used in gambling, the proof is the percentage of win you can see whenever you roll your dices in some gambling sites, everything has their percentage of winning in gambling but it is pretty small. IN terms of Statistics, I think when most people use that kind of trick or skill and won a lot, you will be doing the same thing, you will start to search or ask some people about gambling, gather some data that can help you win.

I remember having a lesson in my math class before wherein we calculated the probability of winning in a game of dice. It won't help you win because computing or calculating the probability won't tell you what to bet on but it could help you in making gambling decisions and bets. By knowing the probability, you will be able to deduce or tell whether you should bet higher or whether your chances of winning is very low.

So in a way, yes, it could help you win given that you apply it properly.
It can help if we master the probable outcome topics but if not then it will be purely luck. Playing with maths can make us theorem sometimes applicable and mostly not especially when not applied properly.
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Mathetics is actually helps in your gambling when you calculated the probabilities you can win and lose with the real information of that match. But in casino gambling , mathetics could help you more than that. Cause everybets in casino bets is basically rely on the probability. So choose the right tactics and probability which can bring you to victory. Winning is the hard thing not impossible.
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October 05, 2017, 08:28:24 AM
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