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December 05, 2017, 10:05:34 AM |
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Since there is No pre Sale, No bounty, No airdrop of Sophia.
How do you plan to market the ICO and where are the funds to pay for marketing?
I've seen that they do a lot of marketing so that's where the effort is going.
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December 05, 2017, 10:10:08 AM |
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A total of 150 million tokens will be distributed regardless of the amount collected. But this is only 30% of the total number of coins that will be in circulation. Another 40% will be added in the second quarter of 2018 (35% Development, Operations, Marketing, Team + 5% Future SPHTX TGE), so the total number of coins will be 350 million. And 30% will be mining - another 150 million. If in the first round the tokens are sold for about $ 0.3, and probably the total amount of 115000ETH will not be collected, and tokens will be distributed among investors, it turns out that the average price of tokens after the ICO is likely to go down. Are these assumptions correct?
You've done some thorough research there. I think it's all correct. I believe that the price will not go down. There is no bounty company, no free distribution. Tokens can only be bought. And I do not believe that people who spend money to buy will sell coins below the price they paid.
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SophiaTX (OP)
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December 05, 2017, 10:52:30 AM |
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We do not have a soft cap, we are already building a prototype on our SAP Cloud and we will continue regardless TGE.
The sentence above should give a good confident to us that there is a guarantee whether the tge will be success or not, this project will continue. What are we waiting for? We still want to raise some money so we need to give people time to gain their interest and trust and spread the word about our project. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Well telegram group has 1300+ members without a bounty for it, it's not a low number for sure, only people really interested in sophiatx there Well, we are ready but it seems that Ethereum is not. Yes, seems like the Ethereum network is really clogged right now. Do you consider to postpone the start of your TGE until the situation improved? We are actively discussing it and there will be a meeting where we decide how to deal with this situation for everybody's satisfaction. We will, of course, inform you in case there will be any changes. But as of now, you are planning to start in time which is in about four hours, isn't it? Or are any updates still possible? We will announce a decision in one hour.
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December 05, 2017, 11:07:11 AM |
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There has been an announcement on Telegram regarding the TGE:
SophiaTX Announcement: TGE rescheduled ! Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday 15:00 CET.
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December 05, 2017, 11:07:30 AM |
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A total of 150 million tokens will be distributed regardless of the amount collected. But this is only 30% of the total number of coins that will be in circulation. Another 40% will be added in the second quarter of 2018 (35% Development, Operations, Marketing, Team + 5% Future SPHTX TGE), so the total number of coins will be 350 million. And 30% will be mining - another 150 million. If in the first round the tokens are sold for about $ 0.3, and probably the total amount of 115000ETH will not be collected, and tokens will be distributed among investors, it turns out that the average price of tokens after the ICO is likely to go down. Are these assumptions correct?
You've done some thorough research there. I think it's all correct. I believe that the price will not go down. There is no bounty company, no free distribution. Tokens can only be bought. And I do not believe that people who spend money to buy will sell coins below the price they paid. I think viljy meant that the price is likely to go down in case the total amount won't be collected and the remaining tokens will be distributed amongst investors. The amount investors paid will stay the same, but the number of tokens will increase, hence price/token will go down. Otherwise I agree, if all tokens will be distributed, I don't see why the price would go down.
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December 05, 2017, 11:11:53 AM |
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There has been an announcement on Telegram regarding the TGE:
SophiaTX Announcement: TGE rescheduled ! Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday 15:00 CET.
Thanks for sharing. Didn't see it. Well, seems to be a fine idea to postpone a bit rather than go now into the risk, the situation is understandable.
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SophiaTX (OP)
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December 05, 2017, 11:12:03 AM |
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TGE rescheduled!Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday, Dec. 7th, 14:00 UTC. The official blog post will follow soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fyeg6r3jfv%2FVERZIA_2.png&t=665&c=vTRTdKIqs2w-nw)
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December 05, 2017, 11:19:13 AM |
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TGE rescheduled!Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday, Dec. 7th, 14:00 UTC. The official blog post will follow soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fyeg6r3jfv%2FVERZIA_2.png&t=665&c=vTRTdKIqs2w-nw) Damnn , 2 more days ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hopefully it will run smoothly
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December 05, 2017, 11:22:21 AM |
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TGE rescheduled!Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday, Dec. 7th, 14:00 UTC. The official blog post will follow soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fyeg6r3jfv%2FVERZIA_2.png&t=665&c=vTRTdKIqs2w-nw) Good decision! Better postponing TGE than investors having problems with their transactions. Hopefully, on Thursday the Ethereum network works properly again.
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December 05, 2017, 11:33:15 AM |
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TGE rescheduled!Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday, Dec. 7th, 14:00 UTC. The official blog post will follow soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fyeg6r3jfv%2FVERZIA_2.png&t=665&c=vTRTdKIqs2w-nw) Why/what is the Community requesting (postpone of tge or anything else) ?
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SophiaTX (OP)
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December 05, 2017, 11:39:52 AM |
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TGE rescheduled!Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday, Dec. 7th, 14:00 UTC. The official blog post will follow soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fyeg6r3jfv%2FVERZIA_2.png&t=665&c=vTRTdKIqs2w-nw) Why/what is the Community requesting (postpone of tge or anything else) ? A lot of people requested the postponing of TGE to ensure fairness and equal opportunities for all participants regardless of which currency they use (BTC, ETH or DCT).
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December 05, 2017, 11:40:36 AM |
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TGE rescheduled!Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday, Dec. 7th, 14:00 UTC. The official blog post will follow soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fyeg6r3jfv%2FVERZIA_2.png&t=665&c=vTRTdKIqs2w-nw) Ethereum network right now is fucked up by cryptokitties, even blocktime went up by a couple of second. Since cryptokitties is here to stay I don't know how they will solve this issue
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December 05, 2017, 11:51:39 AM |
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A total of 150 million tokens will be distributed regardless of the amount collected. But this is only 30% of the total number of coins that will be in circulation. Another 40% will be added in the second quarter of 2018 (35% Development, Operations, Marketing, Team + 5% Future SPHTX TGE), so the total number of coins will be 350 million. And 30% will be mining - another 150 million. If in the first round the tokens are sold for about $ 0.3, and probably the total amount of 115000ETH will not be collected, and tokens will be distributed among investors, it turns out that the average price of tokens after the ICO is likely to go down. Are these assumptions correct?
You've done some thorough research there. I think it's all correct. I believe that the price will not go down. There is no bounty company, no free distribution. Tokens can only be bought. And I do not believe that people who spend money to buy will sell coins below the price they paid. This is actually a great point. I truly believe that most people that receive bounties, just end up dumping them for BTC. So if you don't have people selling right after the ICO, it could possibly keep the price stable.
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December 05, 2017, 11:56:23 AM |
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TGE rescheduled!Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday, Dec. 7th, 14:00 UTC. The official blog post will follow soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fyeg6r3jfv%2FVERZIA_2.png&t=665&c=vTRTdKIqs2w-nw) Ethereum network right now is fucked up by cryptokitties, even blocktime went up by a couple of second. Since cryptokitties is here to stay I don't know how they will solve this issue They made it more expensive to hatch kittens or something like that. Regardless of that, those hype games come and go.
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December 05, 2017, 12:03:16 PM |
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A total of 150 million tokens will be distributed regardless of the amount collected. But this is only 30% of the total number of coins that will be in circulation. Another 40% will be added in the second quarter of 2018 (35% Development, Operations, Marketing, Team + 5% Future SPHTX TGE), so the total number of coins will be 350 million. And 30% will be mining - another 150 million. If in the first round the tokens are sold for about $ 0.3, and probably the total amount of 115000ETH will not be collected, and tokens will be distributed among investors, it turns out that the average price of tokens after the ICO is likely to go down. Are these assumptions correct?
You've done some thorough research there. I think it's all correct. I believe that the price will not go down. There is no bounty company, no free distribution. Tokens can only be bought. And I do not believe that people who spend money to buy will sell coins below the price they paid. This is actually a great point. I truly believe that most people that receive bounties, just end up dumping them for BTC. So if you don't have people selling right after the ICO, it could possibly keep the price stable. that is why investment must be divided into 2 stages - first is early investment, and second is to wait when bounty hunters will make temporary dump
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December 05, 2017, 01:21:08 PM |
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TGE rescheduled!Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday, Dec. 7th, 14:00 UTC. The official blog post will follow soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fyeg6r3jfv%2FVERZIA_2.png&t=665&c=vTRTdKIqs2w-nw) Ethereum network right now is fucked up by cryptokitties, even blocktime went up by a couple of second. Since cryptokitties is here to stay I don't know how they will solve this issue Not only ETH is down, also IOTA has big problems with attack/to many transactions, seems the whole crypto reaches its limits, not only BTC.
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December 05, 2017, 01:22:07 PM |
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A total of 150 million tokens will be distributed regardless of the amount collected. But this is only 30% of the total number of coins that will be in circulation. Another 40% will be added in the second quarter of 2018 (35% Development, Operations, Marketing, Team + 5% Future SPHTX TGE), so the total number of coins will be 350 million. And 30% will be mining - another 150 million. If in the first round the tokens are sold for about $ 0.3, and probably the total amount of 115000ETH will not be collected, and tokens will be distributed among investors, it turns out that the average price of tokens after the ICO is likely to go down. Are these assumptions correct?
You've done some thorough research there. I think it's all correct. I believe that the price will not go down. There is no bounty company, no free distribution. Tokens can only be bought. And I do not believe that people who spend money to buy will sell coins below the price they paid. This is actually a great point. I truly believe that most people that receive bounties, just end up dumping them for BTC. So if you don't have people selling right after the ICO, it could possibly keep the price stable. that is why investment must be divided into 2 stages - first is early investment, and second is to wait when bounty hunters will make temporary dump Even often noted that Bounty hunters will dump coins and impact price I remain sceptic. In many cases bounties is 0,5-1 percent of SOLD tokens. They are often distributed after trading has commenced on ED and sometimes other Exchanges, with this I imply that liquidity is good. Furhtermore I am sceptic that Bounty hunters would dump all their coins after trading starts. Myself does signature Campaigns if I find a Project I like. It is my intention to hold these tokens for long time.
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December 05, 2017, 01:27:26 PM |
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Nice that they postponed the start of the TGE, it’s better for investors satisfaction, the network is really slow at the moment and I think it will better in some days when crypto kitties hype will be F
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SophiaTX (OP)
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December 05, 2017, 01:31:24 PM |
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We have decided to postpone our token generation event by 48 hours. Due to problems with the Ethereum Network, our TGE will be rescheduled for Thursday, Dec. 7th! The reason we are postponing it is not because we run on the Ethereum network, but because some of our participants will use the Ethereum Network and it's having major issues.
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December 05, 2017, 01:31:44 PM |
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TGE rescheduled!Due to problems with Ethereum network and requests of our community we have re-scheduled the start of the TGE to Thursday, Dec. 7th, 14:00 UTC. The official blog post will follow soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fyeg6r3jfv%2FVERZIA_2.png&t=665&c=vTRTdKIqs2w-nw) Ethereum network right now is fucked up by cryptokitties, even blocktime went up by a couple of second. Since cryptokitties is here to stay I don't know how they will solve this issue Not only ETH is down, also IOTA has big problems with attack/to many transactions, seems the whole crypto reaches its limits, not only BTC. Just realized this reschedule. When there is a problem especially that will cause a panic like this recent problem, there is no other good way beside rescheduled the event.
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