[ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure

[saffacoin]

Just found this project. Looks really interesting, and the price looks quite tempting at least in comparison to the ICO price. It was love at first sight until I started to read the discussion here. Therefore, I would like to ask, are there any schedules, plans, and estimates on the profitability available? I would also like to know if the costs/incomes etc been publicly announced or if someone has calculated the ROI of one token. All I was able to found was a medium post by the company from february. The post used numbers from october 2017 to make the future estimations and promised to make everyone filthy rich, which made me extremely suspicious. Why would you not use current numbers? Obviously, the difficulty of mining is not the same anymore as it was in october.

Based on my current understanding, no one knows how many mining containers these guys have, when the payout is etc. I really want to invest into this but with the current knowledge it just does not seem to make any sense to take a leap of faith. PS. It is ridiculous if they replied to questions about why not giving updates more frequently with "real companies only give information each quarter". In crypto world, communication is everything.

Btw, can I just buy the token and move it to MEW for dividends or does every owner need to complete KYC somehow in order to receive them?

If you buy tokens via exchange, no KYC.

I like this project too but to be honest not much information is given by the team, they collected around 100mln ,they have telegram news channel where thee published the last news on March  8th in this article. I think for such amount of money they could be more active and update community more often.

I couldn’t agree more. As investors we deserve to have more updates about it

the team should provide an update and always watch the investors in the fund community they get for the share of all the participants as well, if they are busy please take a little time to notify updates.

I don't know why they don't communicate with investors, maybe they ara busy. But this is also their work, they should be busy with this.

Someone should take that initial post-ICO video where Laurent talked about "trust, transparency and keeping investors updated" and make a remix of it lol

[2012]

Obviously Yobit is not a great deal, infact no one trust him and they also act fishy sometimes. Said that, i'm in the mood to forget my ENV tokens and just wait after the summer to check again what i've earned.

Yobit is a scary one I also find it hard to trust them. They do help push the price up as everything is always a bit more expensive there. All we all really ask for is updates once a month at least this silence is not helping at all. Monthly updates = we will wait a year if we have to ;-)

This process is moving very slow investors have so high expectation for listing on big exchanges but still they couldn't get succeed to attract any of them. Yobit already have low trading activity due to bad experience with them. We desperately need a big exchange at this stage to make this recover much faster. 

[waqasniaz007]

Obviously Yobit is not a great deal, infact no one trust him and they also act fishy sometimes. Said that, i'm in the mood to forget my ENV tokens and just wait after the summer to check again what i've earned.

Yobit is a scary one I also find it hard to trust them. They do help push the price up as everything is always a bit more expensive there. All we all really ask for is updates once a month at least this silence is not helping at all. Monthly updates = we will wait a year if we have to ;-)

This process is moving very slow investors have so high expectation for listing on big exchanges but still they couldn't get succeed to attract any of them. Yobit already have low trading activity due to bad experience with them. We desperately need a big exchange at this stage to make this recover much faster. 

For big exchange they will have to pay high fesses and that is not possible because they will not give $100,000 to binance for listing, They have got funds and now they are enjoying.

[meikelcoin]

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I have already written at 70 cents that you should sell the shit. now you get even less. I sold everything at 89 cents. and now I'm waiting to see if it will be cheaper. or the team is already gone. one does not know

[EvRo74]

What happens to the project? Last time I tried to pass the KYC verification on March 28 - since then there has been silence, not a single email from the team. Bounty, too, is still in a fog. At the bounty thread the participants started a discussion - how to find the real team members and how to declare them on the wanted list. Who is aware of the current situation?

[okss06]

I don't know why they don't communicate with investors, maybe they ara busy. But this is also their work, they should be busy with this.

Well, look to be busy is good, but I think that how they organize things and lack of communication is just a small sign of being badly organized, it doesn't require so much time to answer questions or update community/investors/supporters, a few lines a week, not a big deal, as not it lore looks like a favor and begging for some pieces of information.

[JerryPower]

I am seeing a lot of comments about how the team is not active. Twitter updates almost everyday @envion_org. Weekly newsletter emailed to those who signed up. Just because you are too lazy to look and refuse to use social media is not the teams fault, and relying on bitcoin talk forum for all your info is foolish.

[btcdiggingmaster]

Just found this project. Looks really interesting, and the price looks quite tempting at least in comparison to the ICO price. It was love at first sight until I started to read the discussion here. Therefore, I would like to ask, are there any schedules, plans, and estimates on the profitability available? I would also like to know if the costs/incomes etc been publicly announced or if someone has calculated the ROI of one token. All I was able to found was a medium post by the company from february. The post used numbers from october 2017 to make the future estimations and promised to make everyone filthy rich, which made me extremely suspicious. Why would you not use current numbers? Obviously, the difficulty of mining is not the same anymore as it was in october.

Based on my current understanding, no one knows how many mining containers these guys have, when the payout is etc. I really want to invest into this but with the current knowledge it just does not seem to make any sense to take a leap of faith. PS. It is ridiculous if they replied to questions about why not giving updates more frequently with "real companies only give information each quarter". In crypto world, communication is everything.

Btw, can I just buy the token and move it to MEW for dividends or does every owner need to complete KYC somehow in order to receive them?

If you buy tokens via exchange, no KYC.

I like this project too but to be honest not much information is given by the team, they collected around 100mln ,they have telegram news channel where thee published the last news on March  8th in this article. I think for such amount of money they could be more active and update community more often.

yes there are lot of reasons no one will trust the project anymore. They collected the money and afterwards neglected the community. even they did not distributed the bounty tokens to the members.

Yes, till now what they are doing we don't because still the spreadsheet with no final calculations. How long they will take we don't know and community is also not happy with the way they are doing? See in crypto communication is main important factor in order update the company development.

[Lunar Crank]

Just found this project. Looks really interesting, and the price looks quite tempting at least in comparison to the ICO price. It was love at first sight until I started to read the discussion here. Therefore, I would like to ask, are there any schedules, plans, and estimates on the profitability available? I would also like to know if the costs/incomes etc been publicly announced or if someone has calculated the ROI of one token. All I was able to found was a medium post by the company from february. The post used numbers from october 2017 to make the future estimations and promised to make everyone filthy rich, which made me extremely suspicious. Why would you not use current numbers? Obviously, the difficulty of mining is not the same anymore as it was in october.

Based on my current understanding, no one knows how many mining containers these guys have, when the payout is etc. I really want to invest into this but with the current knowledge it just does not seem to make any sense to take a leap of faith. PS. It is ridiculous if they replied to questions about why not giving updates more frequently with "real companies only give information each quarter". In crypto world, communication is everything.

Btw, can I just buy the token and move it to MEW for dividends or does every owner need to complete KYC somehow in order to receive them?

If you buy tokens via exchange, no KYC.

I like this project too but to be honest not much information is given by the team, they collected around 100mln ,they have telegram news channel where thee published the last news on March  8th in this article. I think for such amount of money they could be more active and update community more often.

yes there are lot of reasons no one will trust the project anymore. They collected the money and afterwards neglected the community. even they did not distributed the bounty tokens to the members.

Yes, till now what they are doing we don't because still the spreadsheet with no final calculations. How long they will take we don't know and community is also not happy with the way they are doing? See in crypto communication is main important factor in order update the company development.

We don't know how long team can counting bounty spreadsheets. As we see, it's really long process for them. A lot of people even don't wait for it more.

[Maxre]

I am seeing a lot of comments about how the team is not active. Twitter updates almost everyday @envion_org. Weekly newsletter emailed to those who signed up. Just because you are too lazy to look and refuse to use social media is not the teams fault, and relying on bitcoin talk forum for all your info is foolish.

what is their reason there is no communication on this tread?
are not they through this tread to succeed their project?
if they are active it should not be silent like this.

[MiBambino]

it's worrying that so many people haven't gotten their bounties yet. The same thing happened with ChangeBank, and they lost a ton of credibility. If you can't even count stakes from a spreadsheet and pay the participants what they deserve, how are you going to run a business in the most competitive market in the world?

[ZellaAnders]

I've been following your project ever since you finished your ICO with more than $90 million that was awesome.
One of the biggest projects in recent times and I'm so happy to be a part of this.
Mobile mining units and the whole technology behind your ICO that all sounds really exciting.

[pstraene]

I've been following your project ever since you finished your ICO with more than $90 million that was awesome.
One of the biggest projects in recent times and I'm so happy to be a part of this.
Mobile mining units and the whole technology behind your ICO that all sounds really exciting.

  but then you have unfortunately bought too expensive. now the price is much better than the ico price. and since this team is so lazy the price will go down even further.


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[Anthony1985]

Do any of you know what's going on with the mining payout? When are we supposed to get it?

[o48o]

it's worrying that so many people haven't gotten their bounties yet. The same thing happened with ChangeBank, and they lost a ton of credibility. If you can't even count stakes from a spreadsheet and pay the participants what they deserve, how are you going to run a business in the most competitive market in the world?

You obviously have missed some updates. This issue has been explained numerous of times. They can't count them until they finish the kyc.

[wwzsocki]

it's worrying that so many people haven't gotten their bounties yet. The same thing happened with ChangeBank, and they lost a ton of credibility. If you can't even count stakes from a spreadsheet and pay the participants what they deserve, how are you going to run a business in the most competitive market in the world?

You obviously have missed some updates. This issue has been explained numerous of times. They can't count them until they finish the kyc.

Of course, they can't but why KYC is taking so long? Why there is no proper explanation to this question. There should be an end date announced for KYC and if somebody is too late he lost, period. Such a startup can't wait few years for every investor to go through KYC. This is just hilarious.

[Roidz92]

Do any of you know what's going on with the mining payout? When are we supposed to get it?

Them last messages about it, said that the first mining rewards will be distributed around the end of summer, but first will be paid the biggest shareholders, then other people. I don't think they need to say every week this thing, but only once is needed. So why don't just we wait till the end of summer? I read everyday here questions about dividends, telling is scam, no updates ecc.. but what they should say more if there are no news?

[Lunar Crank]

it's worrying that so many people haven't gotten their bounties yet. The same thing happened with ChangeBank, and they lost a ton of credibility. If you can't even count stakes from a spreadsheet and pay the participants what they deserve, how are you going to run a business in the most competitive market in the world?

You obviously have missed some updates. This issue has been explained numerous of times. They can't count them until they finish the kyc.

Of course, they can't but why KYC is taking so long? Why there is no proper explanation to this question. There should be an end date announced for KYC and if somebody is too late he lost, period. Such a startup can't wait few years for every investor to go through KYC. This is just hilarious.

I agree. There were many projects where KYC process going not so long. In this project this process was organized very unprofessional.

[cryptokingmaker]

it's worrying that so many people haven't gotten their bounties yet. The same thing happened with ChangeBank, and they lost a ton of credibility. If you can't even count stakes from a spreadsheet and pay the participants what they deserve, how are you going to run a business in the most competitive market in the world?

You obviously have missed some updates. This issue has been explained numerous of times. They can't count them until they finish the kyc.

Of course, they can't but why KYC is taking so long? Why there is no proper explanation to this question. There should be an end date announced for KYC and if somebody is too late he lost, period. Such a startup can't wait few years for every investor to go through KYC. This is just hilarious.

Yes, they need to specify some time limit for KYC approval because how long they gone take. Every company is giving deadlines to their investor for verification of their KYC but Envion team keeps on dragging the things and delaying the payments to bounty people.

[jtalk]

If they wanted like other projects there was some deadline for everyone to clear their statuses as investor. They are just keep dragging time without any reason and this is problem that they can't justify this KYC prolonging. It could be done long ago but they want to win time by keep the issue alive for undetermined period of time. This is my opinion seeing how everything is going on.