ASICMINER Speculation Thread

[gaba]

SCRYPT miner is the new frontier which can open space for more growth. After DOGE success and recent jump of LTC these is clear to everybody.

[minerpumpkin]

Cheap shares on Havelock. Someone got cold feet and offers us a last chance of obtaining affordable shares! Thanks! 

[hdbuck]

Cheap shares on Havelock. Someone got cold feet and offers us a last chance of obtaining affordable shares! Thanks!  

lol i've been putting bids by 0,001 of magnitude but there is always someone that immediately outbids me.. manipulation...  

edit: and when i cancel all my 1share open bids, the guy just cancel his as well and put them back to the lowest bid around 0.45..
so i guess its certainly not going to drop below that.

edit edit: haha and when i buy at the lowest ask, another similar one immediately pops up as well...

[nycgoat]

AM will drop (close) to or (slightly) below IPO in the next few weeks.  That is the time to buy. 

[hdbuck]

AM will drop (close) to or (slightly) below IPO in the next few weeks.  That is the time to buy.  

yeah, this manipulator, after making it surge to 0,75 (and sell some) will make it drop back to 0,30ish so he can buy back from fools. this price is completely BS anyway since we have no confirmed news.

+ still a long way to april anyway.. patience

[glendall]

seriously? you guys really think it could go back to 3 or 4 BTC/share? shhht i need to buy a lot more now then!!

As a guy who bought AM shares around .8 and rode them all they up to 4.5 BTC /share than back down to .8 let me just give you some advice:  ...be careful !

Lot more competition these days. I still think FC is the man but I don't ever think they will getting anywhere to the dominance they had when there was only three players in town, AM, Avalon, and BFL.  AM has great products and they had a huge advantage but I think they blew that, and its sort of over for them now.  I could be completely wrong and tbh don't follow them anything close like I used to, but just, be careful...

[GodHatesFigs]

seriously? you guys really think it could go back to 3 or 4 BTC/share? shhht i need to buy a lot more now then!!

As a guy who bought AM shares around .8 and rode them all they up to 4.5 BTC /share than back down to .8 let me just give you some advice:  ...be careful !

Lot more competition these days. I still think FC is the man but I don't ever think they will getting anywhere to the dominance they had when there was only three players in town, AM, Avalon, and BFL.  AM has great products and they had a huge advantage but I think they blew that, and its sort of over for them now.  I could be completely wrong and tbh don't follow them anything close like I used to, but just, be careful...

less market share, bigger market.

No: the market is the same size - still 25BTC/block; this will only decrease in the future.

[explorer]

seriously? you guys really think it could go back to 3 or 4 BTC/share? shhht i need to buy a lot more now then!!

As a guy who bought AM shares around .8 and rode them all they up to 4.5 BTC /share than back down to .8 let me just give you some advice:  ...be careful !

Lot more competition these days. I still think FC is the man but I don't ever think they will getting anywhere to the dominance they had when there was only three players in town, AM, Avalon, and BFL.  AM has great products and they had a huge advantage but I think they blew that, and its sort of over for them now.  I could be completely wrong and tbh don't follow them anything close like I used to, but just, be careful...

less market share, bigger market.

No: the market is the same size - still 25BTC/block; this will only decrease in the future.

mining is not the primary focus of AM. They are gearing toward chip production, which is a growing market.

[AMuppInTime]

mining is not the primary focus of AM. They are gearing toward chip production, which is a growing market.

I second that - AM is growing, and I wonder how big a part mining will play in its future.

[minerpumpkin]

Cheap shares on Havelock. Someone got cold feet and offers us a last chance of obtaining affordable shares! Thanks!  

lol i've been putting bids by 0,001 of magnitude but there is always someone that immediately outbids me.. manipulation...  

edit: and when i cancel all my 1share open bids, the guy just cancel his as well and put them back to the lowest bid around 0.45..
so i guess its certainly not going to drop below that.

edit edit: haha and when i buy at the lowest ask, another similar one immediately pops up as well...

Bots following some scheme. I wouldn't necessarily call it manipulation, but yeah it's annoying if you want to buy/sell. And yeah, this may be a 'virtual' wall.

[Sledge]

Cheap shares on Havelock. Someone got cold feet and offers us a last chance of obtaining affordable shares! Thanks!  

lol i've been putting bids by 0,001 of magnitude but there is always someone that immediately outbids me.. manipulation...  

edit: and when i cancel all my 1share open bids, the guy just cancel his as well and put them back to the lowest bid around 0.45..
so i guess its certainly not going to drop below that.

edit edit: haha and when i buy at the lowest ask, another similar one immediately pops up as well...

Bots following some scheme. I wouldn't necessarily call it manipulation, but yeah it's annoying if you want to buy/sell. And yeah, this may be a 'virtual' wall.

These are just bots that have been instructed to sell at the highest price they can get above a certain lower bound, or to buy at the lowest price they can get below a certain upper bound. They react very fast to any new orders. It's frustrating until you realize that they are orders just like any other and that when fulfilled, they go away.

Not manipulation. I'd use a bot too, but I wouldn't trust them unless I wrote them or reviewed the source code.

[hdbuck]

Cheap shares on Havelock. Someone got cold feet and offers us a last chance of obtaining affordable shares! Thanks!  

lol i've been putting bids by 0,001 of magnitude but there is always someone that immediately outbids me.. manipulation...  

edit: and when i cancel all my 1share open bids, the guy just cancel his as well and put them back to the lowest bid around 0.45..
so i guess its certainly not going to drop below that.

edit edit: haha and when i buy at the lowest ask, another similar one immediately pops up as well...

Bots following some scheme. I wouldn't necessarily call it manipulation, but yeah it's annoying if you want to buy/sell. And yeah, this may be a 'virtual' wall.

These are just bots that have been instructed to sell at the highest price they can get above a certain lower bound, or to buy at the lowest price they can get below a certain upper bound. They react very fast to any new orders. It's frustrating until you realize that they are orders just like any other and that when fulfilled, they go away.

Not manipulation. I'd use a bot too, but I wouldn't trust them unless I wrote them or reviewed the source code.

yeah i figured it was not a guy watching over it 24/7. but i think these bots are programmed by someone with a lot of share & btc so he can easily drive the price up or down, and especially when there is nothing happening (or at least that we, small investors, arent aware of).

edit: so keep in mind that whenever you are buying or selling at current 'market' price on havelock (i'll call it 'bot' price from now on ), you are not making a 'fair deal' since it is the person behind the bot that actually manipulated you to get the best of your BTC savings or buy 'cheap' shares.

[LainZ]

I also think it was a very wise move from friedcat to skip 55nm and establishing slowly in 2013 a solid franchisee network.

I am sure that deployment of AM massive amount of hash via this network will be much faster the second time than the first.

[gogxmagog]

seriously? you guys really think it could go back to 3 or 4 BTC/share? shhht i need to buy a lot more now then!!

As a guy who bought AM shares around .8 and rode them all they up to 4.5 BTC /share than back down to .8 let me just give you some advice:  ...be careful !

Lot more competition these days. I still think FC is the man but I don't ever think they will getting anywhere to the dominance they had when there was only three players in town, AM, Avalon, and BFL.  AM has great products and they had a huge advantage but I think they blew that, and its sort of over for them now.  I could be completely wrong and tbh don't follow them anything close like I used to, but just, be careful...

thx for the advice.
But my previous research in bitcoin's securities world lead me to the conclusion that AM is the one and only worth betting on. basically i think they really know what they are doing and they are going for the long run. when you think about it, skipping the gen2 in october whilst others, such as BITMAIN, kept on going for the same technology, was a wise move (now BITMAIN is stuck with hardware that will become obsolete within 2 months - which i hope will be the same time for AM to unleash its fury upon the Bitcoin world)

so i am all in on AM

many of us share this sentiment, but 4 BTC a share is vastly over-valued for this baby. I'm hoping for a high around 1-2 if all goes well in 2014... I emphasize the word "hope" if it touches 1BTC I will be (pleasantly) surprised. There is simply too much (privately and publicly owned) competition for AM to seize the market (mining AND manufacturing) ofc, FC could prove me wrong, and I wont mind at all...

[freedomno1]

I'm sitting on the sidelines for a while waiting for it to drop back to 0.3 or news to be released
Just because I remember the fact it was 0.3 before that crash from 0.6 to 0.5 to 0.45
Still up a fair bit from a while ago

[dmcdad]

Friedcat has spoken.

AM is on track to deliver, within just a couple of months, chips that are significantly more efficient than another other ASICs shipping or announced. I don't think that point can be overstated. Bottom fishing on this one is done -- they are about to dominate the ASIC chip market.

[dnaleor]

Friedcat has spoken.

AM is on track to deliver, within just a couple of months, chips that are significantly more efficient than another other ASICs shipping or announced. I don't think that point can be overstated. Bottom fishing on this one is done -- they are about to dominate the ASIC chip market.

lol, people are going crazy on the shares!

I wish I bought more in the large forum auction

[Rival]

AM will drop (close) to or (slightly) below IPO in the next few weeks.  That is the time to buy. 

You may now change your name to "FAIL"

[steamon]

I just feel sad that I never heard about this stock when the IPO was happening. Atleast there are some chances for very high prices in the coming months again.

[hdbuck]

I just feel sad that I never heard about this stock when the IPO was happening. Atleast there are some chances for very high prices in the coming months again.

1 month ago the price on havelock was about the same of IPO: 0,25BTC/share.