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Author Topic: ASICMINER Speculation Thread  (Read 808627 times)
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October 15, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
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That's called "selling at market price" and there is absolutely nothing immoral about it.
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October 15, 2013, 09:15:04 PM
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Interesting, 1.50 per Gh sounds like a really good deal.
If they made so awesome profits, why is AM stock still heading south?

While reading what I wrote, use the most friendliest and relaxing voice in your head.
BTW, Things in BTC bubble universes are getting ugly....
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October 16, 2013, 12:44:31 AM
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Interesting, 1.50 per Gh sounds like a really good deal.
If they made so awesome profits, why is AM stock still heading south?

Difficulty is at 2/PH was 1 PH last month, easy estimate is 4/PH by year end
Some tentative consensus we might get 10/PH by year end if everyone can deliver what they promise which means revenue is starting to get squeezed.
That said it explains why Friedcat is testing multiple designs

But that said back to speculation
Think that's the highest variance spike I've seen so far 90.33 TH
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=7

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October 16, 2013, 02:32:25 AM
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Cleaning this up must cost something too... but probably not in china. Those idiots dump everything into a closest river. 

 This would be funny if it were not true Sad
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October 16, 2013, 03:24:28 AM
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As a disclaimer to everyone using the $1.50/GH figure,

That is the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM AM could have been paying per GH. I calculated that figure with the sole intention of establishing whether or not AM was indeed overvalued, and therefore I made conservative approximations.

To reiterate, $1.50 is the LEAST they could have paid, though I do believe it was a reasonable estimate. If you use that figure to try to establish whether AM is now undervalued, you do so at your own peril.

The reason for the uncertainty is that the cost of manufacturing blades and the cost of manufacturing USB miners were conflated in FC's financial statements. I basically assumed the cost of USB miners was negligible on a per-unit basis compared to the cost of the blades. Obviously that is a conservative approximation (though I do believe it is accurate to assume the USB miners were cheaper to produce than the blades) and will produce a low estimate of their costs per GH.

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October 16, 2013, 07:48:48 AM
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Anyone has a link to latest (close to month old now) balance sheet and PL? It was published somewhere here...
Thank you.

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BTW, Things in BTC bubble universes are getting ugly....
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October 16, 2013, 07:57:20 AM
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Whew share price got just hammered today. Really hurts to see it.

Funny how it always seems to dive when BTC/USD price spikes.  Not sure if that has been established to be coincidental or what, but seems to have some effect.

But geez, trading for a 1/7th of the price it once was not that long ago... sigh. Well so it goes I guess. I didn't want all that spare money anyways!

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October 16, 2013, 08:08:34 AM
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Div prediction?
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October 16, 2013, 08:21:51 AM
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Div prediction?

I'm thinking ~0.003, it will hurt  Cry
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October 16, 2013, 09:23:39 AM
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Div prediction?

I'm thinking ~0.003, it will hurt  Cry

I'm going to be positive today and say .004

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October 16, 2013, 09:50:46 AM
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It might have been better for fc to retain all divs until reinvestment was done.
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October 16, 2013, 09:56:11 AM
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i hope for 0.036 per share Smiley

like from 5B days
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October 16, 2013, 10:27:56 AM
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i hope for 0.036 per share Smiley

like from 5B days

to be realistic, I don't think it will ever happen again... we might see divs around 0.02 if we're lucky and things go well but this can hardly be repeated. The circumstances then and now are changed so drastically that this probably won't happen again... however I did enjoy those fat dividends back then Smiley
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October 16, 2013, 05:46:46 PM
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share price falling =(
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October 16, 2013, 06:37:48 PM
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It will rebuild quickly
Now is about 52% per year Smiley
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October 16, 2013, 06:48:23 PM
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It will rebuild quickly
Now is about 52% per year Smiley

0.004*52=0.208 /0.55= 0.378%  only if dividend remains same next week till the whole year...if there are nothing new chips come out ,I can't see that will be possible....
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October 16, 2013, 07:17:13 PM
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Anyone has a link to latest (close to month old now) balance sheet and PL? It was published somewhere here...
Thank you.

Was a google doc right?
Cannot find it either, if you put your hand on it let us know.

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This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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October 16, 2013, 07:23:03 PM
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Div prediction?

I'm thinking ~0.003, it will hurt  Cry

I'm going to be positive today and say .004

Ding ding ding!

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October 17, 2013, 03:24:32 AM
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It will rebuild quickly
Now is about 52% per year Smiley

0.004*52=0.208 /0.55= 0.378%  only if dividend remains same next week till the whole year...if there are nothing new chips come out ,I can't see that will be possible....

You did not convert at the end my friend.

0.208 /0.55= 0.378
0.378 is roughly 1/3rd, not 1/300.
So it should be 37.8%

So, lets here some speculation! You guys are still holding for the long term? Thinking we will ever see above 1 BTC per share again?
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October 17, 2013, 04:14:33 AM
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It will rebuild quickly
Now is about 52% per year Smiley

0.004*52=0.208 /0.55= 0.378%  only if dividend remains same next week till the whole year...if there are nothing new chips come out ,I can't see that will be possible....

You did not convert at the end my friend.

0.208 /0.55= 0.378
0.378 is roughly 1/3rd, not 1/300.
So it should be 37.8%

So, lets here some speculation! You guys are still holding for the long term? Thinking we will ever see above 1 BTC per share again?
Only if AM survives to next bubble. Anything can happen during a bubble.
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