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[bible_pay]

Well.. just looked over there and 10k volume for the day
10% of that was on DOGE, so curious why de-listing now.

Do you think the "vacation" last summer took its toll on the exchange?

Sounds literally like a one-person operation. You can't run an exchange like that.

tithe

Finding a lot of debug.log spam:

Invalid-tithe found from address xxx for amount of xxx

Checking... I'm waiting a few more blocks for this last high pool record to drop out of todays pool.

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[bible_pay]

If anyone needs to enter a proposal please enter - we have about 1.6 mil left at this point.

[bible_pay]

Well.. just looked over there and 10k volume for the day
10% of that was on DOGE, so curious why de-listing now.

Do you think the "vacation" last summer took its toll on the exchange?

Sounds literally like a one-person operation. You can't run an exchange like that.

tithe

Finding a lot of debug.log spam:

Invalid-tithe found from address xxx for amount of xxx

Your right, this spam problem is quite severe.

And we also are experiencing a memory pool attack.

Finally however, this next release will definitely be a leisure, and from looking at this attack, this should be the last upgrade we need to fix pog.

Basically we have a couple hackers out there trying to prevent the small users from tithing. 

Please everyone keep an eye out for the next leisure upgrade.

[vahtis]

DOGE is being delisted on c-cex;  you may want to sell it or withdraw it.

Wow that's surprising...

I think they will delist everything as there is no volume.

im talked with owner of ccex on skype,bbp will be delisting too  

Hope they will correct issues from forks first. I am missing some BBP

When this is resolved could you please tell us everything is OK there? 

I don't want anyone here to be misled into thinking anything negative about c-cex based on these inaccurate posts from Slavino.

Yes I will announce it here if I remember.
Problem is that I deposit and withdraw during forks. I have created ticket with transactions ids. Unfortunately some of them are not on correct chain

Update

My support ticket got response. I was able to withdraw one pending withdrawal.
All deposited and withdrawn BBP during forks are missing still.

[bible_pay]

DOGE is being delisted on c-cex;  you may want to sell it or withdraw it.

Wow that's surprising...

I think they will delist everything as there is no volume.

im talked with owner of ccex on skype,bbp will be delisting too  

Hope they will correct issues from forks first. I am missing some BBP

When this is resolved could you please tell us everything is OK there? 

I don't want anyone here to be misled into thinking anything negative about c-cex based on these inaccurate posts from Slavino.

Yes I will announce it here if I remember.
Problem is that I deposit and withdraw during forks. I have created ticket with transactions ids. Unfortunately some of them are not on correct chain

Update

My support ticket got response. I was able to withdraw one pending withdrawal.
All deposited and withdrawn BBP during forks are missing still.

On the deposit side:
Just to clarify, can you see the transaction ID that you deposited in the client using:
getrawtransaction txid 1
?

Because it must be on the main chain for you to get credit for it at the exchange.

On the withdrawal you just have to ask them to re-send the tx again (they were on the wrong version for a couple days during that period).
If you can get the txid of the withdrawal, just see thats its not visible in getrawtransaction then ask for a re-send saying 'this is not visible on the network' therefore it needs re-sent.

[bible_pay]

BiblePay - 1.1.9.3b
Leisure Upgrade

- Do not prevent mining due to empty cpid signatures (github #80)
- Create new pog bankroll denomination with change from tithe (github
#79)
- Harden memory pool against tithe attacks
- Remove serious log spam issue

[vahtis]

BiblePay - 1.1.9.3b
Leisure Upgrade

- Do not prevent mining due to empty cpid signatures (github #80)
- Create new pog bankroll denomination with change from tithe (github
#79)
- Harden memory pool against tithe attacks
- Remove serious log spam issue

It shows only 1.1.9.2 here https://www.biblepay.org/wallet/

[vahtis]

DOGE is being delisted on c-cex;  you may want to sell it or withdraw it.

Wow that's surprising...

I think they will delist everything as there is no volume.

im talked with owner of ccex on skype,bbp will be delisting too  

Hope they will correct issues from forks first. I am missing some BBP

When this is resolved could you please tell us everything is OK there? 

I don't want anyone here to be misled into thinking anything negative about c-cex based on these inaccurate posts from Slavino.

Yes I will announce it here if I remember.
Problem is that I deposit and withdraw during forks. I have created ticket with transactions ids. Unfortunately some of them are not on correct chain

Update

My support ticket got response. I was able to withdraw one pending withdrawal.
All deposited and withdrawn BBP during forks are missing still.

On the deposit side:
Just to clarify, can you see the transaction ID that you deposited in the client using:
getrawtransaction txid 1
?

Because it must be on the main chain for you to get credit for it at the exchange.

On the withdrawal you just have to ask them to re-send the tx again (they were on the wrong version for a couple days during that period).
If you can get the txid of the withdrawal, just see thats its not visible in getrawtransaction then ask for a re-send saying 'this is not visible on the network' therefore it needs re-sent.

Deposit. Transaction is on blockchain. It is missing from c-cex

Withdraws.
First one is showing on blockchain and in wallet too. This I used for testing transaction.
Second one 30 seconds after first one is missing from both.
They are sent to same address.

[sunk818]

BiblePay - 1.1.9.3b
Leisure Upgrade

- Do not prevent mining due to empty cpid signatures (github #80)
- Create new pog bankroll denomination with change from tithe (github
#79)
- Harden memory pool against tithe attacks
- Remove serious log spam issue

It shows only 1.1.9.2 here https://www.biblepay.org/wallet/

It shows 1.1.9.3 for me now:
https://imgur.com/gallery/nwo28i3

It was 1.1.9.2 but it takes some time to get it compiled and put on the web site

[bible_pay]

BiblePay - 1.1.9.3b
Leisure Upgrade

- Do not prevent mining due to empty cpid signatures (github #80)
- Create new pog bankroll denomination with change from tithe (github
#79)
- Harden memory pool against tithe attacks
- Remove serious log spam issue

It shows only 1.1.9.2 here https://www.biblepay.org/wallet/

It was probably deploy lag, I see 6.83% upgraded now.

Let's anticipate a much lower POG difficulty after 51% upgrade to the new version.

The largest improvement we have now in the pog environment is 100% of the in-pool tithes are legal now.  Our biggest issue now is getting everyone to upgrade so the small guys can tithe.

[bible_pay]

BiblePay - 1.1.9.3b
Leisure Upgrade

- Do not prevent mining due to empty cpid signatures (github #80)
- Create new pog bankroll denomination with change from tithe (github
#79)
- Harden memory pool against tithe attacks
- Remove serious log spam issue

Mac OSX and PPA's are now available.

[dave_bbp]

What's going on with the pool? oO

Seems like our beloved "botnet" is back at it, leeching almost every network block and getting more than 90% of all coin rewards.
btw: for the "Reports -> Block history" the Anonymization does not work.  


P.S.: I tested POG with tithe=5 today and it worked quite well as I received quite a large POG payment. However my wallet went "dry" quite quickly (naturally) and this raised the question in me how a new user would ever be able to tithe anything, when the "minAmount" is constantly in the thousands of BBP. That must be quite disappointing.

[sunk818]

What's going on with the pool? oO

Seems like our beloved "botnet" is back at it, leeching almost every network block and getting more than 90% of all coin rewards.
btw: for the "Reports -> Block history" the Anonymization does not work.  


P.S.: I tested POG with tithe=5 today and it worked quite well as I received quite a large POG payment. However my wallet went "dry" quite quickly (naturally) and this raised the question in me how a new user would ever be able to tithe anything, when the "minAmount" is constantly in the thousands of BBP. That must be quite disappointing.

You go dry and the next person can participate. That's part of the strategy. If you want to participate daily you might want to throttle it back so maybe it is every half hour (30) or hour (60) depending on your total bank roll and when spent coins are eligible again (min coin age). Just my humble advice.

[capulo]

hmm i have some issue:
i had 17 transactions between 2 tithe payouts:
https://i.imgur.com/dXAodRY.png
and if i check piles in coin control i can see they were touched:
https://i.imgur.com/XEy4z81.png
BUT, if i check pogpool then i see, that i only did 24 bbp as tithe in last 205 blocks:
https://i.imgur.com/pE5iEeG.png
also payout was adequate for tithes ~24bbp

ps: i had few tx (about 5) not sent, they were offline, i needed to restart wallet and then they gets counted

ps2: if i did 3x 8.1 bbp tithe, why it is in pogpool report as 24.00 and not 24.30? or from other view, if there are only whole numbers counted as tithe, why autotithe is sending also decimals?

[bible_pay]

What's going on with the pool? oO

Seems like our beloved "botnet" is back at it, leeching almost every network block and getting more than 90% of all coin rewards.
btw: for the "Reports -> Block history" the Anonymization does not work.  


P.S.: I tested POG with tithe=5 today and it worked quite well as I received quite a large POG payment. However my wallet went "dry" quite quickly (naturally) and this raised the question in me how a new user would ever be able to tithe anything, when the "minAmount" is constantly in the thousands of BBP. That must be quite disappointing.

Yeah, I'm watching it, I am just being strategic each step of the way.  Basically the first problem is the difficulty hasn't dropped yet; I feel we don't have to do anything on this front yet, as it should drop drastically as people upgrade. 

I've actually been looking at your tithes in each block (as you are one of the honest ones).  Not that the hackers are getting in the pool, they are just trying to.
One thing I noticed about your tithes is the same thing Vahtis reported - some of our auto tithes are .01 bbp too high, and they are being prevented from entering the pool - yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

I'm sending out a leisure now to fix the auto tithe issue.  Im trying to do this one step at a time.

Other than that, I feel everything will be OK as people upgrade to 1.1.9.3 - 1.1.9.4.

Your right though in general, the small miners are not getting in- we should see a huge increase in participation as people upgrade.

[bible_pay]

hmm i have some issue:
i had 17 transactions between 2 tithe payouts:

and if i check piles in coin control i can see they were touched:

BUT, if i check pogpool then i see, that i only did 24 bbp as tithe in last 205 blocks:

also payout was adequate for tithes ~24bbp

ps: i had few tx (about 5) not sent, they were offline, i needed to restart wallet and then they gets counted

ps2: if i did 3x 8.1 bbp tithe, why it is in pogpool report as 24.00 and not 24.30? or from other view, if there are only whole numbers counted as tithe, why autotithe is sending also decimals?

Looks like problem #1 is auto-tithe should have sent 8.09 not 8.101 from your client (fixed in 1.1.9.4)
Looks like problem #2 is PogPool and PogPool UI aren't displaying the full scale, fixed in 1.1.9.4.

Preparing a new release.

[sunk818]

yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?

[vahtis]

yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?

If I understand everything correctly, this would affect only next 6 hours to difficulty and would make next payments smaller than tithes.

[bible_pay]

yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?

No that won't happen - the difficulty problems circumstance is just when the tithe fits the difficulty parameters for the range (IE it has the right characteristics for the period) but for the pindex itself, it didn't make it - another words, it was inducted into the map because it appears to be legal, but was not inducted into the pool because it was illegal.

To say this in a simpler way, our memory pool rules were not strong enough to reject illegal tithes in the prior version at that level, so that once 51% upgrade, the diff should also correct itself.

We also have two more layers of room however above this - but its not important to cover yet.  (Another words we have a backup plan in this mandatory phase to correct the diff if 1194 fails to correct it but I don't anticipate us needing that network change).
 
On a side note, any large tithe (> 10 bbp) does not affect the diff at all.  Also, in the latest clients we use a different foundation address for large tithes also (even though what I just said was true regardless of the address this is just to keep the large tithe out of the pool altogether).

[bible_pay]

yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?

If I understand everything correctly, this would affect only next 6 hours to difficulty and would make next payments smaller than tithes.

Fortunately, things aren't thaaat bad.  Ha ha.