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Author Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)  (Read 243130 times)
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February 09, 2019, 02:58:57 PM
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Rob your script deleted accounts on pool again???it looks yes (my miners nick was changed) thx for it,amazing

my nick disappeared on pogpool  Huh

I dont have any scripts running - all I ever had was one to delete people in India who upvoted each others letters.  You already emailed me about this, why double the post and drag everyone through it?  You know Ive replied to 100% of my emails, for everyone, about the pool, every time.

On this one youll have to wait til I have time to reply.  We need to fix POG first.


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February 09, 2019, 03:01:41 PM
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How is this possible?
I tithed total -785.7002298 and got rewards 696.2677964

The technical reason its currently possible:
We have 5 cycles per day of 40 blocks.  In each cycle, when difficulty drops to 0, an inrush of people tithe and cause diff to be outside its bounds (IE Too high).
This happened every cycle yesterday.

I'm working on a fix as highest priority.  This is actually a small fix but will require a mandatory.
We can make this algorithm work perfectly.

Please be patient everyone.  In the mean time, don't be greedy and tithe too much at once, or everyone will receive negative ROI that day.


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February 09, 2019, 03:09:05 PM
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Yes, basically it does mean that it is now unprofitable to tithe the rest of the day, as the pool took in 110K or so and pays out 92K.
The confusing thing we have going on right now is some of our reports are based on 40 blocks, some 205.  This is confusing.

If tithing is no longer profitable today, why am I still tithing? Shouldn't the code see that it is unprofitable and not tithe? I thought that was one of the selling points of PoG?

Was your statement with the assumption the tithe=1 only? If we try to tithe every 10 minutes, would this claim still apply?

I'm not going to sit here and answer all of the smart alleck questions if we have a bug thats needs addressed in the code.

Let's finish our next leisure upgrade first this week, then I'll answer all your questions.

Yes, the wallet is designed to be profitable when the algorithm is within its bounds, and yes it enforces it.

Hi, it was not meant to be a smart alleck question. Anyway, I posted this as an issue here: https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay/issues/71

Thanks, I apologize for jumping to conclusions.

I'll explain more as the weekend ends.

I'll make it top priority for us to fix the algorithm so:  10,000 people can be in the pool, diff does not cycle catastrophically, and the enforcement is bulletproof for someone with a lot of coin age waiting to abuse the system when low diff occurs.  (We already thought of these 3 things when testing, but the parameters in the code are not correct).  The 205 wide report can most likely be done at the same time (to provide a 2nd indicator how much was tithed per day, but honestly when the first issue is fixed this will become irrelevant as the cycles will never break bounds).



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February 09, 2019, 03:57:32 PM
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Please be patient everyone.  In the mean time, don't be greedy and tithe too much at once, or everyone will receive negative ROI that day.



I'll make it top priority for us to fix the algorithm so:  10,000 people can be in the pool, diff does not cycle catastrophically, and the enforcement is bulletproof for someone with a lot of coin age waiting to abuse the system when low diff occurs.


Why are you blaming people when system is broken?
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February 09, 2019, 04:22:30 PM
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Only stability gives success.

There were too many changes, and testnet is for testing,
I wrote after testing how many bugs is in POG.
Unfortunately, Rob just laughed.
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I'll make it top priority for us to fix the algorithm so:  10,000 people can be in the pool, diff does not cycle catastrophically, and the enforcement is bulletproof for someone with a lot of coin age waiting to abuse the system when low diff occurs.


This is very simple, 2 lines of script.
Auto open-close wallet, and one node for api.

Rob when you stop judging other people?
This is a free market. And most of us are programmers.

I promise at the end I will show you POBH what you have not noticed.
Through conceit and pride.
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February 09, 2019, 05:16:28 PM
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Only stability gives success.

There were too many changes, and testnet is for testing,
I wrote after testing how many bugs is in POG.
Unfortunately, Rob just laughed.

Interesting you would say there are bugs but not share specific.

Most people here are not programmers.

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February 09, 2019, 05:17:17 PM
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Just be a while on other stuff. I updated the windows wallet but no block source available. What should be the correct conf file? PODC is removed? Could someone repost the upgrade post link? Thanks.

it seems the first message is tooooo old and need to be updated.
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February 09, 2019, 05:33:39 PM
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Just be a while on other stuff. I updated the windows wallet but no block source available. What should be the correct conf file? PODC is removed? Could someone repost the upgrade post link? Thanks.

it seems the first message is tooooo old and need to be updated.


You need only wallet.dat and peers file, without  peers it can take a few hours.

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Only stability gives success.

There were too many changes, and testnet is for testing,
I wrote after testing how many bugs is in POG.
Unfortunately, Rob just laughed.

Interesting you would say there are bugs but not share specific.

Most people here are not programmers.

Rob pushes people away from himself.
One by one, he will be alone with the promises of 3-5 new users daily.
Most of us have a lot of bbp. It is not pleasant to see what is happening.
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February 09, 2019, 06:10:54 PM
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Only stability gives success.

There were too many changes, and testnet is for testing,
I wrote after testing how many bugs is in POG.
Unfortunately, Rob just laughed.

Interesting you would say there are bugs but not share specific.

Most people here are not programmers.

Rob pushes people away from him.
One by one, he will be alone with the promises of 3-5 new users daily.
Most of us have a lot of bbp. It is not pleasant to see what is happening.

I don't get why we use 'new users' as a metric.  Folks new to BBP, would presumably be drawn in by the new feature (POG) and its promise (profit). Profit oriented people are usually quick to sell, especially in this market condition. There aren't so many profitable coins, so I think people are looking more for stability and the hope of a coin's survival to better days. It seems to me that the vast majority of crypto is destined to fail. Let's not be one of them.

I'm all for innovation, but uncorking it near the bottom I don't understand. Gift cards are nice, but how are they encouraging hodling of BBP? Either I buy the BBP and convert to the gift card, or I'm already hodling and will just convert.

How does profit-mindedness contribute to hodling? Will quick profits be helpful to the coin long term?

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February 09, 2019, 07:19:02 PM
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Interesting,  Pagalo has donated 43k,  (almost half of the total for the cycle?.. ) another user has 20k

It shows 150k donated this run..
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Interesting,  Pagalo has donated 43k,  (almost half of the total for the cycle?.. ) another user has 20k

It shows 150k donated this run..
it was goal for Rob Cheesy Cheesy

pagalo=43 000 offer and reward 28 000

15 000 lost for children


thaaaanks greedy PAGALO  Cheesy Cheesy

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Interesting,  Pagalo has donated 43k,  (almost half of the total for the cycle?.. ) another user has 20k

It shows 150k donated this run..
it was goal for Rob Cheesy Cheesy

pagalo=43 000 offer and reward 28 000

15 000 lost for children


thaaaanks greedy PAGALO  Cheesy Cheesy

15,000 "donated" for children
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Interesting,  Pagalo has donated 43k,  (almost half of the total for the cycle?.. ) another user has 20k

It shows 150k donated this run..
it was goal for Rob Cheesy Cheesy

pagalo=43 000 offer and reward 28 000

15 000 lost for children


thaaaanks greedy PAGALO  Cheesy Cheesy

15,000 "donated" for children
but dont understand when we have monthly donating ..... this zimbabwes fed papers dumping bbp price

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but dont understand when we have monthly donating ..... this zimbabwes fed papers dumping bbp price

Donated amount is supposed to reduce the monthy superblock requirement for orphans.
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Please be patient everyone.  In the mean time, don't be greedy and tithe too much at once, or everyone will receive negative ROI that day.



I'll make it top priority for us to fix the algorithm so:  10,000 people can be in the pool, diff does not cycle catastrophically, and the enforcement is bulletproof for someone with a lot of coin age waiting to abuse the system when low diff occurs.


Why are you blaming people when system is broken?

This is not blaming.  This comment was not meant for everyone, just those who took advantage of the low difficulty.

I meant it just as a warning not as a judgement.



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February 10, 2019, 12:36:01 AM
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Only stability gives success.

There were too many changes, and testnet is for testing,
I wrote after testing how many bugs is in POG.
Unfortunately, Rob just laughed.

Interesting you would say there are bugs but not share specific.

Most people here are not programmers.

Rob pushes people away from him.
One by one, he will be alone with the promises of 3-5 new users daily.
Most of us have a lot of bbp. It is not pleasant to see what is happening.

I don't get why we use 'new users' as a metric.  Folks new to BBP, would presumably be drawn in by the new feature (POG) and its promise (profit). Profit oriented people are usually quick to sell, especially in this market condition. There aren't so many profitable coins, so I think people are looking more for stability and the hope of a coin's survival to better days. It seems to me that the vast majority of crypto is destined to fail. Let's not be one of them.

I'm all for innovation, but uncorking it near the bottom I don't understand. Gift cards are nice, but how are they encouraging hodling of BBP? Either I buy the BBP and convert to the gift card, or I'm already hodling and will just convert.

How does profit-mindedness contribute to hodling? Will quick profits be helpful to the coin long term?



The main point is I don't see 300 active users on PODC making BiblePay a household name.  We gave it a long shot.
While I do see the possibility that POG offers, a pool of 10,000 users could make us a household name.


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February 10, 2019, 12:39:32 AM
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Only stability gives success.

There were too many changes, and testnet is for testing,
I wrote after testing how many bugs is in POG.
Unfortunately, Rob just laughed.

Interesting you would say there are bugs but not share specific.

Most people here are not programmers.

Rob pushes people away from himself.
One by one, he will be alone with the promises of 3-5 new users daily.
Most of us have a lot of bbp. It is not pleasant to see what is happening.

Youll have to wait for POG to be re-released and given a true chance before being proven wrong. 
I'll bet you 250,000 bbp that we have more than 500 concurrent POG users by June 18th this year.  Are you willing to escrow 250K?  TheSnat can hold the money.

I think if we grow from 200~ to 500 by mid year that would be a testament of growth for POG, and should be enough to lift the price.


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February 10, 2019, 12:42:18 AM
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Just be a while on other stuff. I updated the windows wallet but no block source available. What should be the correct conf file? PODC is removed? Could someone repost the upgrade post link? Thanks.

it seems the first message is tooooo old and need to be updated.


You need only wallet.dat and peers file, without  peers it can take a few hours.


Ensure clock is correct within 2 secs, ensure timezone is correct.
We have 5 live DNS seeds, but if you still didnt sync, addnode 45.76.63.197

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