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Author Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | POBH CPU | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)  (Read 211064 times)
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June 14, 2019, 11:33:34 PM
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Guys,
Let me understand, before I upgrade to POG I receive, more or less, 3k BBP a day now I'm still at 10 or 4 or less then 20 BBP per day.
What's wrong in my configuration or what's wrong on my mining istance ?
Sorry for my question but I really don't understand what's append

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And in addition to what Capulo said, please tell us if you are receiving less for POBH mining, pool mining or for GSC daily POG rewards, thanks.

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June 14, 2019, 11:34:40 PM
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** Pool Bug Fixed **

The trash icon is now fixed in the pool, so you can now delete unnecessary worker records.

Also, the pop-up dialog has been enhanced with a nicer close button.


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June 15, 2019, 12:12:54 AM
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Edmund Moy just followed us on Twitter

hes on the Board of Directors for Cathio

he was the 38th Director of the U.S. Mint (2006-2011)

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June 15, 2019, 10:24:08 AM
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"Edmund Moy just followed us on Twitter"

That sounds promising

Do u have a twitter size intro for BBP you could post on his thread?
Maybe a request to kindly re-distribute it?

Just an idea
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June 15, 2019, 12:30:18 PM
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Does BiblePay check if you tithed less than 12 hours ago upon start up?

It currently tries to send one as soon as the miner is started if the wallet is unlocked. 

I just removed this in the next version, now the wallet will wait 4 hours after startup to check to see if it should send a GSC.


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June 15, 2019, 12:43:49 PM
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Someone's nickname is nickname in the leaderboard.


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June 15, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
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if i set one wallet for miners and put some coins there, how it will work? i red somewhere that abn will be 256k
so if i have now
  "Command": "getabnweight",
  "weight": 26944.78025462963,
  "total_required": 18490

then i will wait until weight will be 256k? and then one miner will be able to find block? and then some tx spend my weight to 0 and i will need to wait again until 256k?
and for higher frequency of blocks i will need to stake more coins so weight will be increasing faster?
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June 15, 2019, 09:31:49 PM
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if i set one wallet for miners and put some coins there, how it will work? i red somewhere that abn will be 256k
so if i have now
  "Command": "getabnweight",
  "weight": 26944.78025462963,
  "total_required": 18490

then i will wait until weight will be 256k? and then one miner will be able to find block? and then some tx spend my weight to 0 and i will need to wait again until 256k?
and for higher frequency of blocks i will need to stake more coins so weight will be increasing faster?


Yes, exactly, in about 250 more blocks the ABN requirement starts and requires 256K ABN weight in order to mine a block.

So basically in your example here, that node will just throw an error once per minute (when the miner is enabled) something to the effect of :  ABN weight not sufficient to create a block.  (Note that if we have a late block, > 60 mins, those miners who have insufficient weight will actually turn on automatically because anyone can mine a late block).

So yes, if you deposit more into that miner, then it will mine (after block 126,000).

Note one other very important nuance:  Your ABN weight will not be reset to 0 unless you actually solve a block.  The weight keeps being recycled as the best block changes and never
 spent.  If you solve a block, your ABN transmission gets cashed in inside that block and therefore your abn weight recycles back to 0.  Obviously if you had 512,000 in the mining wallet(s) you would have enough to keep mining while its recycling...etc.



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if you have more weight is it easier to solve a block or is it just the same as having 256k?
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June 16, 2019, 12:17:58 AM
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if you have more weight is it easier to solve a block or is it just the same as having 256k?

Everyone is equal that is mining, but I would expect our diff to drop when this starts (with less miners mining), but hopefully we pick that back up since GSCs pay so well right now (I think they pay 20* higher than the same capital invested in sancs currently).

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June 16, 2019, 02:10:19 AM
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if you have more weight is it easier to solve a block or is it just the same as having 256k?

Everyone is equal that is mining, but I would expect our diff to drop when this starts (with less miners mining), but hopefully we pick that back up since GSCs pay so well right now (I think they pay 20* higher than the same capital invested in sancs currently).


I think it is closer to 10x in my experience at least.
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June 16, 2019, 02:36:47 AM
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if you have more weight is it easier to solve a block or is it just the same as having 256k?

Everyone is equal that is mining, but I would expect our diff to drop when this starts (with less miners mining), but hopefully we pick that back up since GSCs pay so well right now (I think they pay 20* higher than the same capital invested in sancs currently).


I think it is closer to 10x in my experience at least.

It looks like its closer to 5* if you tithe 1000 and ~20* if you tithe 50,000 bbp - but in reality the bbp tithed would lower the ROI, so its definitely not still 20* now that we have competition in the gsc (but in Gagahas case it could be that high with a high tithe multiplier since she has all that coin-age).  


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June 16, 2019, 05:03:18 AM
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if i set one wallet for miners and put some coins there, how it will work? i red somewhere that abn will be 256k
so if i have now
  "Command": "getabnweight",
  "weight": 26944.78025462963,
  "total_required": 18490

then i will wait until weight will be 256k? and then one miner will be able to find block? and then some tx spend my weight to 0 and i will need to wait again until 256k?
and for higher frequency of blocks i will need to stake more coins so weight will be increasing faster?


Yes, exactly, in about 250 more blocks the ABN requirement starts and requires 256K ABN weight in order to mine a block.

So basically in your example here, that node will just throw an error once per minute (when the miner is enabled) something to the effect of :  ABN weight not sufficient to create a block.  (Note that if we have a late block, > 60 mins, those miners who have insufficient weight will actually turn on automatically because anyone can mine a late block).

So yes, if you deposit more into that miner, then it will mine (after block 126,000).

Note one other very important nuance:  Your ABN weight will not be reset to 0 unless you actually solve a block.  The weight keeps being recycled as the best block changes and never
 spent.  If you solve a block, your ABN transmission gets cashed in inside that block and therefore your abn weight recycles back to 0.  Obviously if you had 512,000 in the mining wallet(s) you would have enough to keep mining while its recycling...etc.



Hi Rob, So it means recycled per block ? if the miner solve a blocks then next block+ with ABN weight turn to 0, how about the block+1 still have chance to mine ?
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Quick question: What will happen to the pool miners/workers once abn weight requirement kicks in? Will all workers not meeting it automatically be rejected by the pool?


P.S.: Is the sanctuary payment gonna improve again in the future? Right now sancs pay half of what they paid before Evo and I don't think investors gonna like that very much. Roll Eyes
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... that node will just throw an error once per minute (when the miner is enabled) something to the effect of :  ABN weight not sufficient to create a block. ...

in this case, will machine save power (cpu 0%) or it will mine as usually but just cant hit block?
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June 16, 2019, 12:48:18 PM
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if i set one wallet for miners and put some coins there, how it will work? i red somewhere that abn will be 256k
so if i have now
  "Command": "getabnweight",
  "weight": 26944.78025462963,
  "total_required": 18490

then i will wait until weight will be 256k? and then one miner will be able to find block? and then some tx spend my weight to 0 and i will need to wait again until 256k?
and for higher frequency of blocks i will need to stake more coins so weight will be increasing faster?


Yes, exactly, in about 250 more blocks the ABN requirement starts and requires 256K ABN weight in order to mine a block.

So basically in your example here, that node will just throw an error once per minute (when the miner is enabled) something to the effect of :  ABN weight not sufficient to create a block.  (Note that if we have a late block, > 60 mins, those miners who have insufficient weight will actually turn on automatically because anyone can mine a late block).

So yes, if you deposit more into that miner, then it will mine (after block 126,000).

Note one other very important nuance:  Your ABN weight will not be reset to 0 unless you actually solve a block.  The weight keeps being recycled as the best block changes and never
 spent.  If you solve a block, your ABN transmission gets cashed in inside that block and therefore your abn weight recycles back to 0.  Obviously if you had 512,000 in the mining wallet(s) you would have enough to keep mining while its recycling...etc.



Hi Rob, So it means recycled per block ? if the miner solve a blocks then next block+ with ABN weight turn to 0, how about the block+1 still have chance to mine ?

To be specific, the original vins that get spent in the block you solved reset to 0 coin age, but if you have a wallet with other unspent coins in it, that keeps your coin*age above 256K then yes, height+1 would mean the miner is still mining.

To make it easier to understand, the response from getabnweight would need to be > 512K so that when the 256k coin age is spent the miner still has at the very least 256K to continue mining.  As time goes on the original 256k would be aging again (increasing total coin age once again).  Best bet is to put more than enough in a shared wallet for mining, to get a feel for it and then look at the logs scanning for "ABN" to see if no errors exist. 

Also getmininginfo will show any ABN errors.


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June 16, 2019, 12:49:57 PM
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... that node will just throw an error once per minute (when the miner is enabled) something to the effect of :  ABN weight not sufficient to create a block. ...

in this case, will machine save power (cpu 0%) or it will mine as usually but just cant hit block?

It would save power, it would sleep 30seconds while its taking a look at coin age over and over.

(Unless a late block is encountered), then it would wake up.


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June 16, 2019, 01:07:18 PM
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Quick question: What will happen to the pool miners/workers once abn weight requirement kicks in? Will all workers not meeting it automatically be rejected by the pool?


P.S.: Is the sanctuary payment gonna improve again in the future? Right now sancs pay half of what they paid before Evo and I don't think investors gonna like that very much. Roll Eyes

On the sanc payment, impho, as things currently are with QT in place, those rewards would not improve; except in the case that If our price rose above the AUP trigger (.01 cent), the biblepay wallet would emit more coins per block.  This lower Sanc share is due to the GSC contract escrow % being held back at the gross level per block.  I understand both sides, that sancs feel they should get the gross reward first, then the GSC gets the net.   Since I am a sanc owner myself I feel that if the community feels this is important to discuss a higher reward, I encourage someone here to make a forum proposal, proposing a change, and then voted on (as I don't want to spearhead this myself).

On the ABN effects on the pool, the pool will keep working, but a small change needs deployed tonight; this basically rejects any solutions submitted that don't contain the minimum ABN weight in the serialized block.  So the pool miner who has insufficient pool weight will also end up sleeping.



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June 16, 2019, 02:41:28 PM
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I added an RPC command to show the ROI in steps of 1000 per tithe amount.  This will be in the next version.


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June 16, 2019, 05:52:30 PM
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... that node will just throw an error once per minute (when the miner is enabled) something to the effect of :  ABN weight not sufficient to create a block. ...

in this case, will machine save power (cpu 0%) or it will mine as usually but just cant hit block?

It would save power, it would sleep 30seconds while its taking a look at coin age over and over.

(Unless a late block is encountered), then it would wake up.

When BBP sleeps, does this mean it devotes 0% to mining? I could perhaps run BOINC side by side and crunch scientific tasks when BBP is sleeping?

Yes, it devotes 0% to mining, so you could run boinc and get work out of it yes.  I believe the wallet should take no more than 1% cpu time when the miner is off (roughly, depending on the machine).


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