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September 21, 2013, 09:03:31 AM
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anyone has a screen shot of the last session of nakowa ?

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His strategy, as I'm sure most of you already know, is to do some small bets until he finds a pattern, and then use that pattern to his advantage.

Except that there is no pattern. It's just luck.

Then why does he win every single time that he plays?
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September 21, 2013, 09:12:35 AM
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anyone has a screen shot of the last session of nakowa ?

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His strategy, as I'm sure most of you already know, is to do some small bets until he finds a pattern, and then use that pattern to his advantage.

Except that there is no pattern. It's just luck.

Then why does he win every single time that he plays?

jesus christ. hes basically flipping a coin. 1% edge isnt much. anythign can happen in the short term.
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September 21, 2013, 09:16:08 AM
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so how much did he win last time?
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September 21, 2013, 09:27:48 AM
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Then why does he win every single time that he plays?

Cause he played big only like .... 5-6 times.... Wink
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September 21, 2013, 09:28:22 AM
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so how much did he win last time?

Some 2400
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September 21, 2013, 09:44:37 AM
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I'm waiting for when nakowa loses 10k.
I think  this is inevitable (that is, he'll keep playing), and I'm also
pretty sure that after that he'll come here claiming the game is rigged. And he'll believe
it sincerely, which is a pity since otherwise he'd keep playing and lose all his coins.



please remember that the house edge is only 1% and if he comes again and plays he for sure can win again. you need to have his total turnover to understand the %age of his own gambling chart. it depends how often he comes to JD to play. and what if he doesnt come back and there is no other high roller to replace him? You need to see a casino business with one table and 1% edge a la longue ( in the long run). 3 month of one table is nothing imho.


I'm talking about this one guy, not in general. From his behaviour I'm quite certain he'll keep playing until he loses, then see the above.
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September 21, 2013, 10:09:38 AM
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People need to stop being retarded about havign high rollers gambling on JD.
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If he cant stop playing on the site, thats only a good thing. Hopefully he will lose most of it back in time.

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Yes they do.

Please nakowa keep playing!!

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September 21, 2013, 10:55:33 AM
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Nakowa back if anyone wants to watch the show Cheesy
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September 21, 2013, 11:15:44 AM
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possibly false alarm. Not sure whats happening now.
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September 21, 2013, 12:00:57 PM
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what's he up now?  must be around 7000-8000?

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September 21, 2013, 12:24:45 PM
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I'm waiting for when nakowa loses 10k.

I actually thought about increasing my investment.

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September 21, 2013, 01:43:39 PM
Last edit: September 21, 2013, 02:33:43 PM by RationalSpeculator
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I must give it to him though, his strategy is good. Variance is a bitch sweet if you know to stop while ahead. Even if that is temporary, you stand out above most gamblers. And playing with such large amount of money you have to dare. I mean he gambles $10k/$50k with a click. Loses/wins $200k in a few seconds. And is likely willing to lose 1 million USD on JD. Unless he is a billionaire, that's serious money for him too.

Always remember, the house can be down with not 5% like yesterday but 80% according to simulations done here before. That is if his roll is as big as the house (40k btc) which it may.

I'm wondering what if his roll is 'only' 10k btc, 4 times less than house? Does that mean maximum drawdown in simulation would not be -80% for house, but also 4 times less: -20% for house?
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September 21, 2013, 01:54:22 PM
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Thanks for posting the screenshots of his action.  While I'm happy for players to win, this has been brutal.  I agree, the key to his strategy is quitting when he is ahead, I have to think JD will eventually win its money back if he keeps playing, though he's done amazingly well.
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September 21, 2013, 02:05:35 PM
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Unless he is a billionaire, that's serious money for him too.

You're assuming he is playing with money that belongs to him (as opposed to money he manages for others).
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September 21, 2013, 02:06:10 PM
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Something tells me that the profits will shoot up again soon. It wont go much lower, all the big winners brought home their profits.
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September 21, 2013, 02:40:40 PM
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He mentioned after his betting that he would probably not play at the site anymore.. And also mentioned to he would have doog rain BTC..
We shall see if these things come true..

He's said many times before that he won't play on the site any more.  He has proven time and time again to be dishonest.

And he's not going to have me do anything.  If he wants to "rain BTC" he can do it himself.

Doog, UNFAIR again. Please note "PROBABLY". In fact, what I said as nakowa went like this (I cannot recall exactly): "I'm done here (though I might come back with another identity)..." And before this, when people in the chat room asked me, "You'll play again?", I often answered: "I don't know."

Coming back and winning coins don't constitute "being dishonest", I think. I've been called scam, thief by others, and you now openly accuse me of dishonesty, I'm kind of disappointed. However, I could understand you, and do. But, as an investor, I have to divest and withdraw, I'm afraid you are sort of hating me now, which is dangerous for further communication.

I WANT to QUIT, really. However, quitting from winning is much harder than quitting from losing. I told you that before. But you designed this, using a subtle way to transform investors into gamblers, and holding winning gamblers in the site as investors, which is truly amazing, and to which I fell prey. And I found I can hardly be a solid investor, from time to time realizing I can win much quicker and bigger than I can profit from others' loss (1% x 7% x 90%).

I'm trying very hard to leave this site, I MEAN it. I know I might fail, God bless me.

BTW, I always respect you and your work. Good luck.

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September 21, 2013, 02:51:08 PM
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Just give 10 btc each to all in this thread till now and you can go away with no regrets Wink
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September 21, 2013, 02:55:28 PM
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Nakowa/allover/whoever..... You're complaining about 'falling prey' to the site?Huh?? you are up 8000 BTC!  What is that supposed to mean?

Also, it is not doog's job to send your tips to other players. you can withdraw and send tips to other players by yourself. dooglus is not here to hand out tips he is the site operator.


Stop complaining about 'oh, its so hard to quit'.... Why don't you keep going until the bank is empty? There is 50,000 more BTC you can win. 

Then maybe there will be no more coins left, and nothing left to win, you can finally quit~~!!

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September 21, 2013, 02:56:28 PM
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He mentioned after his betting that he would probably not play at the site anymore.. And also mentioned to he would have doog rain BTC..
We shall see if these things come true..

He's said many times before that he won't play on the site any more.  He has proven time and time again to be dishonest.

And he's not going to have me do anything.  If he wants to "rain BTC" he can do it himself.

Doog, UNFAIR again. Please note "PROBABLY". In fact, what I said as nakowa went like this (I cannot recall exactly): "I'm done here (though I might come back with another identity)..." And before this, when people in the chat room asked me, "You'll play again?", I often answered: "I don't know."

Coming back and winning coins don't constitute "being dishonest", I think. I've been called scam, thief by others, and you now openly accuse me of dishonesty, I'm kind of disappointed. However, I could understand you, and do. But, as an investor, I have to divest and withdraw, I'm afraid you are sort of hating me now, which is dangerous for further communication.

I WANT to QUIT, really. However, quitting from winning is much harder than quitting from losing. I told you that before. But you designed this, using a subtle way to transform investors into gamblers, and holding winning gamblers in the site as investors, which is truly amazing, and to which I fell prey. And I found I can hardly be a solid investor, from time to time realizing I can win much quicker and bigger than I can profit from others' loss (1% x 7% x 90%).

I'm trying very hard to leave this site, I MEAN it. I know I might fail, God bless me.

BTW, I always respect you and your work. Good luck.

This is the problem with people who win money without having earned it.  They can't fucking handle the responsibility, don't feel entitled to it, and ultimately implode.

Spend that money on something to better yourself man.  Sign up for a fucking Tony Robbins event or whatever you're into.  God knows you can afford it.
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September 21, 2013, 03:00:06 PM
Last edit: September 21, 2013, 03:16:22 PM by thy
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what's he up now?  must be around 7000-8000?
In total im pretty sure he's up close to what the site is down under the expected performance sofar, possibly slightly more. The site is expected to be up 12 251 btc now but is only at 2 243 so the site has underperformed by 10 009 btc.
A week ago or so the site was up 6545 now it's only up 2243, he is probably behind most of that so 4300 btc there and at his earlier visits he took 3900 btc from the site i think, if all his wins from before is in those 3900 mentioned before. In total it would mean it's 8200+ btc unless he also plays under some less know alts playng slightly lower, then it may be way more he has won or cheated the site for if he has found an exploit that someone mentioned him saying.

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