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Update:
1. In the next week or two I will be posting a public list of all funded coins that have been purchased.
Like " https://casascius.com/fulllist.txt", I suppose - very good - I just wanted to ask for it. Note: Casascius' list also includes future addresses.
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September 01, 2013, 07:55:34 PM Last edit: September 01, 2013, 10:44:31 PM by Michael_S |
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Hi, based on current LTC, BTC and Silver prices, I made some calculations to compare Casascius' and Smoothie's offers, and I found that they are quite similar in terms of the premium (contrary to what some other users here seem to suggest): Comparing premiums of LEALANA Litecoins vs. CASASCIUS Bitcoins: (based on current rates: 1 LTC = 2.74 USD, 1 BTC = 132 USD, 1 oz silver = 23.50 USD) LEALANA Litecoins from Noah (smoothie):
1) Single 1/2 Troy oz 10 LTC with error = 43.00 LTC = 117.82 USD: --> LTC value = 10.00 LTC = 27.40 USD Silver value = 4.29 LTC = 11.75 USD (= 23.50/2 USD) Premium = 28.71 LTC = 78.76 USD = 66.8% of purchasing price
2) Single 1 Troy oz 25 LTC = 63.00 LTC = 172.62 USD: --> LTC value = 25.00 LTC = 68.50 USD Silver value = 8.58 LTC = 23.50 USD Premium = 29.42 LTC = 80.62 USD = 46.7% of purchasing price
3) Bulk 20 pcs 1/2 Troy oz 10 LTC with error = 774 LTC = 2120.76 USD, i.e. each 38.70 LTC = 106.04 USD: --> LTC value = 10.00 LTC = 27.40 USD Silver value = 4.29 LTC = 11.75 USD (= 23.50/2 USD) Premium = 24.41 LTC = 66.88 USD = 63.1% of purchasing price
4) Bulk 20 pcs 1 Troy oz 25 LTC = 1134 LTC = 3107.16 USD, i.e. each 56.70 LTC = 155.36 USD: --> LTC value = 25.00 LTC = 68.50 USD Silver value = 8.58 LTC = 23.50 USD Premium = 23.12 LTC = 63.36 USD = 40.8% of purchasing price
5) Shipping USA: 12 LTC = 32.88 USD Shipping internl.: 28 LTC = 76.72 USD
CASASCIUS Bitcoins from Mike (casascius):
1) Single 0.5 BTC silver, 1/2 oz: 1.90 BTC = 250.80 USD --> BTC value = 0.50 BTC = 66.00 USD Silver value = 0.09 BTC = 11.75 USD Premium = 1.31 BTC = 172.92 USD = 68.9% of purchasing price
2) Single 1 BTC silver, 1 oz: 2.50 BTC = 330.00 USD --> BTC value = 1.00 BTC = 132.00 USD Silver value = 0.18 BTC = 23.50 USD Premium = 1.32 BTC = 174.24 USD = 52.8% of purchasing price
3) Bulk 12 pcs 0.5 BTC silver, 1/2 oz: 15.60 BTC = 2059.20 USD. i.e. each 1.30 BTC = 171.60 USD --> BTC value = 0.50 BTC = 66.00 USD Silver value = 0.09 BTC = 11.75 USD Premium = 0.71 BTC = 93.85 USD = 54.6% of purchasing price
4) Bulk 20 pcs 1 BTC silver, 1 oz: 38 BTC = 5016.00 USD, i.e. each 1.90 BTC = 250.80 USD --> BTC value = 1.00 BTC = 132.00 USD Silver value = 0.18 BTC = 23.50 USD Premium = 0.72 BTC = 95.30 USD = 37.9% of purchasing price
5) Shipping USA: 0.40 BTC = 52.80 USD Shipping internl.: 0.65 BTC = 85.80 USD Conclusions: - Smootie's Litecoins are currently slightly "cheaper" (lower premium percentage) when buying small volumes. Also shipping is slightly cheaper with Smoothie.
- For greater order volumes, Casascius' offer has lower fees.
- All this holds when paying Smootie in LTC. Smoothie's BTC prices are significantly higher (due to recent BTC price surge, while LTC/USD remained stable)
- Overall, the offers from Smoothie and Casascius appear to be quite comparable in terms of fees.
PS: Note that an ebay auction in Germany has just ended for a 1 oz 1 BTC silver Casascius coin for 175.12 EUR = 231,42 USD, which is 20 USD less than even bulk purchase with Casascius (not even to talk about shipping fees). So it seems the coin collectors take a [summer vacation?] break at the moment...
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September 07, 2013, 02:25:45 AM |
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Holy crap these are expensive. I can understand a little bit of a premium, and I understand these will have a collectible element to them, but they're a bit too spendy to get my interest. Let me know when the price comes down.
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September 07, 2013, 02:35:14 AM |
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Last I checked he had less than 200 left (a couple of weeks ago) of the error ones.
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September 07, 2013, 05:56:33 PM |
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Ok this might be a dumb question, but how do we get the plastic cases open?
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September 07, 2013, 06:39:15 PM |
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Hi,
based on current LTC, BTC and Silver prices, I made some calculations to compare Casascius' and Smoothie's offers, and I found that they are quite similar in terms of the premium (contrary to what some other users here seem to suggest):
That was very a nicely put together analysis, but you only compare one crazy overpriced offering to another crazy overpriced offering. I guess that sort of makes sense in an apples to apples kind of way, but you go on to defeat the point in showing that on ebay these are selling for less than the original cost! Given that there is a limited supply one would expect them to go higher on ebay, not lower. I just don't think they actually have the collector value that others want to place on them. Considering that for the cost of a single oz litecoin silver piece + shipping I can get 7 traditional one oz silver coins shipped, makes me think they are far too pricey. And that is right now, after the price rise in silver! So, 1oz or 7oz? Not a hard choice for me. I do understand that a little more goes into these than stamping a traditional coin, but come on... 1 to 7?? I could understand a higher premium than regular coins, that's a given, but the current price is just an exorbitant amount of premium to be charging IMHO.
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September 07, 2013, 07:53:16 PM |
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Ok this might be a dumb question, but how do we get the plastic cases open?
Box cutter or exacto. Use it on the side at the crease. Insert it and wiggle a little and then take a fingernail or something similar in thickness and run it around the capsule. Then pull apart.
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September 08, 2013, 04:32:04 AM |
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Ok this might be a dumb question, but how do we get the plastic cases open?
Box cutter or exacto. Use it on the side at the crease. Insert it and wiggle a little and then take a fingernail or something similar in thickness and run it around the capsule. Then pull apart. I've found even swiss army blades are thin enough
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Update: 1. Full list of addresses: http://lealana.com/fulllistltc.txt2. 1/2 oz batch #2 and 1/4 oz batch #1 are coming soon. 3. My website for taking orders should be finished soon. I apologize, been dragging my feet on it given how busy I have been just from orders on the forums. 4. Updated BTC prices for my coins given the recent price rise. 5. Stay tuned for more information and updates.
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September 12, 2013, 09:29:13 AM |
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I must say Smoothie that is one sexy looking coin!! I'm going to start saving now to pick one up ASAP!
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September 14, 2013, 09:00:51 PM |
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Received my coin yesterday. Gorgeous. Thanks smoothie!
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September 15, 2013, 06:09:18 AM |
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Received my coin yesterday. Gorgeous. Thanks smoothie!
Funded. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mahalo again for your order. I'm glad you like it. Aloha Smoothie
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UK Customer.... Coins arrived as stated Happy Customer Thanks once again :-)
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September 22, 2013, 07:12:50 PM |
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1/2 oz batch #2 and 1/4 oz batch #1 are coming soon.
How soon is soon? I have the 1/2 oz and the 1 oz coins, now I need the 1/4 oz to complete my collection!
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September 22, 2013, 07:53:39 PM |
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September 22, 2013, 08:09:02 PM |
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awaiting the looks of the bars ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It would be amazing ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 22, 2013, 08:50:42 PM |
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1/2 oz batch #2 and 1/4 oz batch #1 are coming soon.
How soon is soon? I have the 1/2 oz and the 1 oz coins, now I need the 1/4 oz to complete my collection! We already have collectors on the scene they must be a hit ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Updated OP prices.
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ITEM #3: 1/4 Troy oz 999 Fine Silver 5 LTC Lealana Litecoin NEW!These 5 LTC 1/4 Troy oz. 999 fine silver coins' addresses all start with "LTC5". They all come with a clear air-tight capsule with appropriate sized spacers and a COA. These coins do not come with a leatherette. Holograms are serialized. PRICE (1/4 oz): 17 LTC or 0.3 BTC each BULK PRICING (20 coins): 306 LTC or 5.4 BTC![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg580%2F5300%2Fhx6g.jpg&t=665&c=5VUXMbl3AINwyw)
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