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January 26, 2014, 12:32:52 AM
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Some underpayment corrections went out about an hour ago.   The rest of the corrections should follow shortly.

As far as the people who were overpaid, I'll talk some more with Lab_Rat about how that is going to be handled.  I see a number of possibilities, and there's no reason to rush forward and complicate things any further.


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Can you tell us what the payout per share should be so we can confirm we have been paid correctly?
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January 26, 2014, 12:33:00 AM
Last edit: February 01, 2014, 10:00:22 PM by daemonfox
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If anyone cares, I did my own research...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsVvuskew8TmdFdOakpIVURJT3Jqcmx4bzNWUnk5dUE

13.9648905596108 BTC over paid give or take those who bought more shares that I am obviously not privy to that info.

^^^^ That's based on a 2 month old shareholder listing.
^^^^ Bearing in mind a flurry of trading activity this week due to recent announcements, DO NOT take this list as definitive.

Flashman apparently took a 3 second look and decided he knew exactly what I did... and he is incorrect... so ignore the post below... you can see my source linked below.

Flashman is correct about the below... because none of us has a fully up to date bond holder listing... all I can highlight is the difference per address from last week to this weeks payouts.

I have updated this using the LRM trade thread to reflect those who showed highlighted due to acquiring bonds this last week.

I have also added a column listing total bonds held based on payout and dividend per bond as of 1-18... it is not the current holdings as of today... I will add that shortly... but this will only be as accurate as grnbrg's postings in the trade thread.

1-25 txid https://blockchain.info/tx/00d5a7f30eb82873ce9d4950c4a084be47d25d5ce39bd0f245c763fb756ca197

1-18 txid https://blockchain.info/tx/7fcd3ceec1ed2aaf4a8305999f882f74fb50cf74360bde7b86f8842fa273f5e3

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January 26, 2014, 12:35:23 AM
Last edit: January 26, 2014, 12:58:43 AM by Flashman
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^^^^ Bearing in mind a flurry of trading activity this week due to recent announcements, DO NOT take this list as definitive.

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January 26, 2014, 12:37:04 AM
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Some underpayment corrections went out about an hour ago.   The rest of the corrections should follow shortly.

As far as the people who were overpaid, I'll talk some more with Lab_Rat about how that is going to be handled.  I see a number of possibilities, and there's no reason to rush forward and complicate things any further.


grnbrg.

Can you tell us what the payout per share should be so we can confirm we have been paid correctly?

As we've figured out, correct payment per bond should have been 0.000524306 this week.


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January 26, 2014, 12:41:00 AM
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Some underpayment corrections went out about an hour ago.   The rest of the corrections should follow shortly.

As far as the people who were overpaid, I'll talk some more with Lab_Rat about how that is going to be handled.  I see a number of possibilities, and there's no reason to rush forward and complicate things any further.


grnbrg.

Can you tell us what the payout per share should be so we can confirm we have been paid correctly?

As we've figured out, correct payment per bond should have been 0.000524306 this week.

grnbrg

Yay, I should be getting 0,001572922 more this week then Cheesy
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January 26, 2014, 12:50:07 AM
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^^^^ That's based on a 2 month old shareholder listing.

^^^ That is based off the transactions right off the blockchain... so... please update your comment.

Please update your data, it's out of date even if it was based off blockchain.

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January 26, 2014, 12:51:09 AM
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Oh geez, what a mess. I hope it doesn't take too long to fix.

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January 26, 2014, 12:57:10 AM
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^^^^ That's based on a 2 month old shareholder listing.

^^^ That is based off the transactions right off the blockchain... so... please update your comment.

Please update your data, it's out of date even if it was based off blockchain.

Flashman is correct, as you noted yourself, it doesn't take trades into account, and difficulty.

But it doesn't matter, grnbrg estables div/bond and he has the official list, so it's easy to reconcile now Smiley
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January 26, 2014, 12:58:29 AM
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^^^^ That's based on a 2 month old shareholder listing.

^^^ That is based off the transactions right off the blockchain... so... please update your comment.

Please update your data, it's out of date even if it was based off blockchain.

How does that make any sense? It is a copy paste right off the site for those two transactions, dumped into a text file and imported into the doc, then hand matched for the addresses and two dates of div payments.

Instead of just saying "update your data its out of date..." point out an inconsistency and I will be glad to edit anything I have wrong.

^^^^ That's based on a 2 month old shareholder listing.

^^^ That is based off the transactions right off the blockchain... so... please update your comment.

Please update your data, it's out of date even if it was based off blockchain.

Flashman is correct, as you noted yourself, it doesn't take trades into account, and difficulty.

But it doesn't matter, grnbrg estables div/bond and he has the official list, so it's easy to reconcile now Smiley

Indeed it does not take trades in to account... which is why I noted that in the post...


18.49342107 BTC over paid give or take those who bought more shares that I am obviously not privy to that info.


If you look... I am only highlighting those who got paid more than last week... those who bought more shares can obviously ignore their address in that highlighted area.

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January 26, 2014, 01:05:58 AM
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If you look... I am only highlighting those who got paid more than last week... those who bought more shares can obviously ignore their address in that highlighted area.

Yah, but the trolls might not, anyone who bought shares this week is probably showing as overpaid and doesn't want any self appointed enforcers bugging them to "send it back".

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January 26, 2014, 02:07:11 AM
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If you look... I am only highlighting those who got paid more than last week... those who bought more shares can obviously ignore their address in that highlighted area.

Yah, but the trolls might not, anyone who bought shares this week is probably showing as overpaid and doesn't want any self appointed enforcers bugging them to "send it back".

As such, I have amended my post and the document to reflect this per grnbrg's confirmations in the LRM trade thread, including total bonds held as of 1-18.

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January 26, 2014, 02:13:13 AM
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Considering the share return, i got paid 0.01625349 BTC, and considering my 68 shares, at 0.000524306, thats 0.035652808, missing still 0.019399318.
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January 26, 2014, 02:23:05 AM
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As such, I have amended my post and the document to reflect this per grnbrg's confirmations in the LRM trade thread, including total bonds held as of 1-18.

Thank you.

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January 26, 2014, 02:35:56 AM
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As such, I have amended my post and the document to reflect this per grnbrg's confirmations in the LRM trade thread, including total bonds held as of 1-18.

Thank you.

Of course... I never intended to put out inaccurate data... and I have updated it further to reflect this weeks holdings.

Maybe you can do me a favor, as a second pair of eyes on this so I am sure I am not making a huge oversight somewhere... at the top you see what I see? Someone who held no bonds last week and got no divs had over 4 BTC sent to them this week? Unless the LRM trade post does not have the .10 BTC straight from LRM bond sales listed... how in the hell does that happen?

That is about 8894 bonds worth...

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January 26, 2014, 02:45:19 AM
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Someone who held no bonds last week and got no divs had over 4 BTC sent to them this week? Unless the LRM trade post does not have the .10 BTC straight from LRM bond sales listed... how in the hell does that happen?

Pure speculation (No specific knowledge about that address.) but it might be a change address.


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January 26, 2014, 02:53:40 AM
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Someone who held no bonds last week and got no divs had over 4 BTC sent to them this week? Unless the LRM trade post does not have the .10 BTC straight from LRM bond sales listed... how in the hell does that happen?

Pure speculation (No specific knowledge about that address.) but it might be a change address.


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Well... if these...

https://blockchain.info/tx/9b30d245f95f8526d1f15bd3671515f92a92d0623b058d712e77f620925c9420

are your corrections to the underpaid holders... then yes you would be spot on... glad that seems to be the case here.

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January 26, 2014, 02:54:30 AM
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@Lab_Rat or @grnbrg, could we get an 'all clear' when the makeup divs are done being sent to those who were short so folks know when to say they were missed?

Moving dividend day to a week day may or may not decrease the odds of LR being out of town, but I'd be all for LR paying early or late in the event he is out until a more automated system is in place.  

Edit, RIGHT after posting, my makeup transaction came in... looks good.  Thanks again!
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January 26, 2014, 03:06:24 AM
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As far as I am aware, only shares traded as a result of that thread on here, get posted on there. LRM is active on BFL forums for example and trades made among members on there may not be shown here.

Secondly, we may see the occasional example of previously unclaimed shares being claimed, and back dividends paid.

No clue about the 4 BTC...

further down though 1FF5NCC... was previously a bond holder with 72 .. may have got skipped last time or something

Oddly 16ESpK was previously a holder but last public listing had "him" with zero bonds also.

1GVo6m previously held 43 shares

17T6E5 had 60 but was previously unverified on the public listing.

1z57em previously held 15

1Ehsd previously held 8

17TnY7 previously held 151

Edit: Oh 1MoqW16v7DHHrK3TJ9RniXPgGhiXB9fLE6 that the 4+ BTC went to is obviously a LRM controlled address that got "change" or something the first time, set of corrections were paid out from there.

TL;DR See Spot run. Run Spot run. .... .... Freelance interweb comedian, for teh lulz >>> 1MqAAR4XkJWfDt367hVTv5SstPZ54Fwse6

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January 26, 2014, 03:16:00 AM
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Probability factor of one to one. We have normality. I repeat: we have normality. Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem. Please relax, you will be sent for soon.

Looks like the shortfalls have been dealt with.  I'll post an update once LR has decided how he wants to handle the overpaid stuff.

Thanks for everyone's patience.



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January 26, 2014, 03:29:52 AM
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Probability factor of one to one. We have normality. I repeat: we have normality. Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem. Please relax, you will be sent for soon.

Looks like the shortfalls have been dealt with.  I'll post an update once LR has decided how he wants to handle the overpaid stuff.

Thanks for everyone's patience.



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Thanks as always grnbrg.
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