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[mmmerlin]

(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist...  


grnbrg.

Thanks, I rest my case!

That literally had me laughing out loud though, some of those are hilarious!  

The one that's a fucking house address makes me want to go round and laugh at them in person! Please can someone go here?! http://tinyurl.com/k4xg664

[grnbrg]

Ok!  BitFunder's assetlist!

Thanks to @pacojones for providing the bandwidth.

http://bitfunder.firstitinc.com/asset-list/

The public key for verifying the signatures can be pulled off the nearest keyserver.



grnbrg.

[BKM]

Sorry for the newb question, but I believe my address on bitfunder was one I created on my bitcoinqt wallet, does that mean it's one I can sign messages with?

It would be really great if someone could post a quick how-to so that everyone can check that they can do this before the shut-down, otherwise there will likely be many tears.

I am sadly too busy to do this, but am just throwing this out there as an invaluable suggestion...

I found this thread which breaks down the concept of signing a message. Unfortunately, the term "sign a message" is a little counter-intuitive. It should read "create a message signature". In essence, you use Bitcoin-QT or Blockchain.info or whatever client to generate a signature key for a specific BTC address AND the message associated with that address as it is typed in the message window. THEN you copy that information to an email, PM or whatever and send it. You do not send the message you generated the signature for from the client it was created in.

This thread is specific to blockchain.info but the concept is the same across all clients as it is a function of Bitcoin itself. Also - you can change the address associated with your bonds (shares or whatever) in Bitfunder. If you are one of those people who used an invalid address you should perhaps consider fixing it by editing your settings in Bitfunder. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=180068.0

[tgerring]

(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist... 


grnbrg.

A bit sad really that BitFunder couldn't do some basic address validation. Hell, a sprinkling of some regex would help with the most obvious of mistakes. Here, I'll get them started:

Code:

[13][1-9A-HJ-NP-Za-km-z]{20,40}

[grnbrg]

Here's an example for people who want to track down how to sign and verify messages with Bitcoin address keys...

------------------
Test message.  Ignore the dashes above and below when you copy and paste this to verify.

If you can verify this, you've probably figured out enough to sign messages with your own keys.
------------------

Signed with:  1grnbrg3Ea4t6bxHvQKRvorbBeLNDXv2N

Signature:  HKT07NvQ31Mz3mpMUD+38RSnEPa0/HyrE0zx8qse5THhq3SDrsBHVLt+UogA1bsxqwy+MhYkRy1Uc+ph+627bXI=

Most clients are a bit clunky, but they get the job done.  You may just have to dig a bit....



grnbrg.

[rustyh17]

(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist...  
grnbrg.

A bit sad really that BitFunder couldn't do some basic address validation. Hell, a sprinkling of some regex would help with the most obvious of mistakes. Here, I'll get them started:

Code:

[13][1-9A-HJ-NP-Za-km-z]{20,40}

" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa" should be "1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa" after checking validity. Alright "birdy" fix your nest dude....

"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" should be "13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k" after checking validity. Don't you hate it when the type over function doesn't work right?

[rustyh17]

Here's an example for people who want to track down how to sign and verify messages with Bitcoin address keys...

------------------
Test message.  Ignore the dashes above and below when you copy and paste this to verify.

If you can verify this, you've probably figured out enough to sign messages with your own keys.
------------------

Signed with:  1grnbrg3Ea4t6bxHvQKRvorbBeLNDXv2N

Signature:  HKT07NvQ31Mz3mpMUD+38RSnEPa0/HyrE0zx8qse5THhq3SDrsBHVLt+UogA1bsxqwy+MhYkRy1Uc+ph+627bXI=

Most clients are a bit clunky, but they get the job done.  You may just have to dig a bit....



grnbrg.

Works like a charm grnbrg! I took one space out of your message and it failed verification. Kind of an exacting process huh? (Just as I want it to be.)

[fractal02]

So today, dividends go manual ?

Not by Bitfunder.
Right ?

LabRat, bring us some good news

[Endlessa]

(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist... 


grnbrg.

lol we should all send that guy in CT some snail mail with a letter saying:

This is not a valid bitcoin address

Thanks,

The Internet


heheh

[Lab_Rat]

Sorry for the newb question, but I believe my address on bitfunder was one I created on my bitcoinqt wallet, does that mean it's one I can sign messages with?

It would be really great if someone could post a quick how-to so that everyone can check that they can do this before the shut-down, otherwise there will likely be many tears.

I am sadly too busy to do this, but am just throwing this out there as an invaluable suggestion...

I found this thread which breaks down the concept of signing a message. Unfortunately, the term "sign a message" is a little counter-intuitive. It should read "create a message signature". In essence, you use Bitcoin-QT or Blockchain.info or whatever client to generate a signature key for a specific BTC address AND the message associated with that address as it is typed in the message window. THEN you copy that information to an email, PM or whatever and send it. You do not send the message you generated the signature for from the client it was created in.

This thread is specific to blockchain.info but the concept is the same across all clients as it is a function of Bitcoin itself. Also - you can change the address associated with your bonds (shares or whatever) in Bitfunder. If you are one of those people who used an invalid address you should perhaps consider fixing it by editing your settings in Bitfunder. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=180068.0

But it's secure due to the fact that if the message is changed it can't be verified...

[Lab_Rat]

(....) never underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed masses!

Just because bitcoin is technical doesn't mean that it's not used by the technically illiterate

Among the BitFunder public keys:

""  - A null key.  This user (Single?, Multiple?) holds several assets.
"14oQSdpw56jv3Xn49EM58nNY5RSDbiPGwr  " - probably valid, but has trailing spaces.
" \tBalance \t 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn" - Uhhhhh....
" 155TY9EpfpML46QA5bhYxRkxXpcJJFZfxU" - leading spaces.
"150 Vernon Ave. #400 Vernon, CT. 06066" - Dude.  That's not a bitcoin address.
"https:\/\/blockchain.info\/wallet\/3d0719da-52a1-" - Neither is that.
"e4c966be-7fe4-45fe-a5e1-7781f3081e04" - lolwut?
"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" - Not a valid address, and a holder of 15 LRM bonds!
"635a91d71c72e64f2be449065407ac59b213eb127b279" - Another LRM holder (2 bonds) who doesn't have a clue.
" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa"

There are probably more creative entries.  Just found this on a once-through the assetlist...  
grnbrg.

A bit sad really that BitFunder couldn't do some basic address validation. Hell, a sprinkling of some regex would help with the most obvious of mistakes. Here, I'll get them started:

Code:

[13][1-9A-HJ-NP-Za-km-z]{20,40}

" \t \t1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa" should be "1birdyVUS7v4gHsruyBFbmGM6YDLJTkNa" after checking validity. Alright "birdy" fix your nest dude....

"13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H" should be "13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k" after checking validity. Don't you hate it when the type over function doesn't work right?

You can see that the end of the address is repeated from the beginning.
13yEHkfHB9Hc7c1JZ15qqSP2Zw8hQugA9k13yEHkfHB9H
so it's obviously supposed to end at the A9k

[Lab_Rat]

Someone made a vanity address with my name in it.  1LaBrATo5XwdJEv5C3NTrsoHB6fvURTpYq
I think I know who it is as there's only 2-3 people who got that many bonds. 

[sparky999]

are dividends being paid on bitfunder this week?

why is the asset being removed from bitfunder, is it because labrat doesn't meet the criteria for the new rules?

[Ashitank]

Lab_Rat do you have ETA on delivery of bitfury gear for October  

[Lab_Rat]

I'm going to take the asset list image from 12 noon EST today and pay out dividends based on that list manually this week.

Along with the help of an investor, I'm working on securing an automated payment system for LRM dividends, but for this week and possibly next I will have to pay out manually.  This is a task sending hundreds of transactions by hand, so unfortunately I will be charging a small fee until the system is automated.  This will be BTC0.025 per individual.  If your dividends for the week are of equal or lesser value, you will not receive dividends this week.  It appears the amount of bonds you must have in possession is ~20 to receive dividends.

This is not a permanent fixture in the LRM payout system!!!

Once automated, the only charge will be the transaction fees through the bitcoin network (generally BTC0.0005)

If you are curious as to why there were no transaction fees on bitfunder, that is due to the fact that the bitcoin never officially changed hands. The BTC stayed in their holding wallet and the numbers on the website changed.

I should have some more news coming up by the middle of next week that's on the happier side.

[Lab_Rat]

are dividends being paid on bitfunder this week?

why is the asset being removed from bitfunder, is it because labrat doesn't meet the criteria for the new rules?

Answered.

I didn't try to meet the criteria, but I'm within the US and I don't want any issues with them in the future.

[Lab_Rat]

Lab_Rat do you have ETA on delivery of bitfury gear for October  

No date guaranteed as of this time.

I'm unsure as to how much and when, but I'll be speaking to Dave in person within the next couple days.

[Ashitank]

Lab_Rat do you have ETA on delivery of bitfury gear for October  

No date guaranteed as of this time.

I'm unsure as to how much and when, but I'll be speaking to Dave in person within the next couple days.

Ok , reason I asked is some here managing group buy of October delivery Bitfury gear have already started to get their miners .. hope we get ours soon.

[Ashitank]

Almost forgot , is Lab_rat mining going to run KNC gear 

[bigasic]

Cant you do a mass payment to everyone and just pay one small miners fee? Im not 100 percent on how it works, but I think if you keep adding addresess to send to, you only have to pay one small fee instead of paying for each one. With bitcoin-QT  you can just keep adding the recipient and then add the amount. A properly done excel spreadsheet should make this pretty easy to do..

But, I think your right not to trust bitfunder to send the coins, who knows what they are up to...

Wow, with the fire sale happening, there sure were a lot of small  buyers... I think we went to around 100 holders to about 300 this week.  A lot of people holding just a tiny amount of bonds.. After looking at it, there will be a lot of bond holders that wont receive their dividends, boy are they going to be mad, lol....

Also, lab rat, im assuming that you will be re-investing the non paid dividends? Looks like it will be a substantial amount since there are so many with less than 20 bonds..