[ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales NEW STOCK ***NOW SHIPPING***

[klondike_bar]

So it's prob smart to cancel Oct pre-order now and wait for November immediately available order?

once all the october kits and cards are shipped, i expect/hope we will see a drop to <2.5BTC/h-board with immediate availability. This would mesh well with the promise of 2.25BTC store credit on the delayed august stuff

   I dont think Dave will have anything for Nov.

That's my concern.

its all up in the air. my method is to add boards from each batch if the price is right. (The october batch is profitable IMO - i got it when it was $450 by creditcard, and if it overclocks to 40GH like my first card then i anticipate it producing >3.5BTC)

[greaterninja]

Received 4 H boards today. The H board have reduced no of decoupling caps and the value of Resistor in the divider is changed.

In English?  

FCUK?

changed for the good or bad?

can you overclock them?  and how well if so?

If it is the same as on EU version, the resistor is now 1.800, I was able to get it down to 1.720 (pencil mod). It took my full kit from 420 to 530 GHS.
Some stable issues arise after few days, but putting heat sinks on back of regulators helped.

Are you using a v1 M board. None of my v1 M boards are hashing properly with 4Hcards or more. I start getting loads of errors and vastly reduced hash rates with 4 or more H cards plugged in.

I could trade you one of my version 2.3 M boards. for something or btc.  i have 3 extra atm.

[frankenmint]

its feeling like september 30th all over again for me here 

[Xian01]

its feeling like september 30th all over again for me here 

 Here's hoping for a flurry of activity over the next two weeks.

[salfter]

I haven't seen a single poster claiming their order has shipped today.

Am I missing something?

Orders #20x and #35x have not shipped yet. Though there is still time to ship today.

I also have an order # in the 350s (plus the low 700s)...nothing yet on either.

[buzzdave]

Hi all - I've been in contact with the factory early this morning.  They are making 1000's of boards and shipping in earnest next week.  We will be *very* busy building, testing and shipping rigs to you.  Please don't knock me for not camping on the forum thread for the next two weeks.  I'll do my best.

Don't expect half-price H-boards or rigs to appear on the store any time soon.  Tytus and I are not believers in the endless-doubling of difficulty theory promoted by sites like TGB.  We'll mine our own equipment before we fire sale hardware.

I am making USB miners, which should show up before the end of the month.

Regards,
Dave

[superduh]

when you half price the equipment it will give other people opportunity to roi. unless they *are* half priced no point in selling them since you'd knowingly be selling it to people when they have 0 chance of making roi

[Keefe]

Don't expect half-price H-boards or rigs to appear on the store any time soon.  Tytus and I are not believers in the endless-doubling of difficulty theory promoted by sites like TGB.  We'll mine our own equipment before we fire sale hardware.

The competition will soon put you out of business as a hardware seller, if it hasn't already, regardless of what happens to difficulty, unless you drop your prices alot in the next month or two.

BTW, will you ever port the improved chainminer back to v1 M-boards?

[Jutarul]

Hi all - I've been in contact with the factory early this morning.  They are making 1000's of boards and shipping in earnest next week.  We will be *very* busy building, testing and shipping rigs to you.  Please don't knock me for not camping on the forum thread for the next two weeks.  I'll do my best.

Don't expect half-price H-boards or rigs to appear on the store any time soon.  Tytus and I are not believers in the endless-doubling of difficulty theory promoted by sites like TGB.  We'll mine our own equipment before we fire sale hardware.

I am making USB miners, which should show up before the end of the month.

Regards,
Dave

The main reason to apply a discount is to accommodate unanticipated ROI failures of previous customers in order to salvage the customer relationships. New customers have a blank balance sheet. As such, as long as new customers line up, the company has no incentive to replenish their customer stock, unless they also want to avoid building a reputation for bankrupting their customers.

[Dagger75]

Hi all - I've been in contact with the factory early this morning.  They are making 1000's of boards and shipping in earnest next week.  We will be *very* busy building, testing and shipping rigs to you.  Please don't knock me for not camping on the forum thread for the next two weeks.  I'll do my best.

Don't expect half-price H-boards or rigs to appear on the store any time soon.  Tytus and I are not believers in the endless-doubling of difficulty theory promoted by sites like TGB.  We'll mine our own equipment before we fire sale hardware.

I am making USB miners, which should show up before the end of the month.

Regards,
Dave

Well we damn well know that Difficulty will sure be doubling for the next 3-4 months with the shit-ton of new 28nm ASICs coming out and https://ghash.io/ adding 100TH/s++ every Difficulty change!!

Just by adding all the unshipped  pre-orders from BFL, Bitfury, Hashfast, KnC, CoinTerra, VMC, Bitmine.ch, Black Arrow, ....(you get the idea)...the Difficulty will be 4X-5X what it is now atleast.  Then you have all these and other companies selling their ASIC Chips to Groupbuys and all sorts of other neato projects and Resellers to add to that and it's not slowing down anytime soon...just increasing through the Winter of 2014.

From now on there will probably be no profit for 99% of miners paying over $3/GH/s as the only ones making money are the Asic Companies and resellers.  I think most people are now becoming aware of this fact and it is certainly advantageous (IMO) to sell In-Stock gear for Half-Price now and get the Customers who want to support you and Bitfury then to have them at Current prices and risk selling very few in the next couple of months and be stuck with gear that can never ROI even at 1/3 price.

The pre-order Asic market is massively oversold due to the precedent BFL has set.  It's gonna be a messy 2014 for Bitcoin miners to be sure and whatever the outcome is, it will certainly be an interesting one.  I just don't want the Small/Hobby Miners, that are Central to the Bitcoin Network, to be screwed over in the process and Hate Bitcoin because of a few greedy/unscrupulous Companies.

[klondike_bar]

i think the doubling every month will continue until mid-janruary, at which point the market/blockchain will be so full of hardware that even filling preorders like cointerra wont have the massive hit to difficulty like right now.

that said, i really want to see some better pricing on h-boards next month. for 30-35GH operation, 2.5BTC is fair for november 15th delivery

[Keefe]

Hi all - I've been in contact with the factory early this morning.  They are making 1000's of boards and shipping in earnest next week.  We will be *very* busy building, testing and shipping rigs to you.  Please don't knock me for not camping on the forum thread for the next two weeks.  I'll do my best.

Don't expect half-price H-boards or rigs to appear on the store any time soon.  Tytus and I are not believers in the endless-doubling of difficulty theory promoted by sites like TGB.  We'll mine our own equipment before we fire sale hardware.

I am making USB miners, which should show up before the end of the month.

Regards,
Dave

The main reason to apply a discount is to accommodate unanticipated ROI failures of previous customers in order to salvage the customer relationships. New customers have a blank balance sheet. As such, as long as new customers line up, the company has no incentive to replenish their customer stock, unless they also want to avoid building a reputation for bankrupting their customers.

New customers aren't exactly lining up for more Bitfury hardware at current prices. Did you notice that the qty in stock in the webstore has been static for a while?

[Jutarul]

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The main reason to apply a discount is to accommodate unanticipated ROI failures of previous customers in order to salvage the customer relationships. New customers have a blank balance sheet. As such, as long as new customers line up, the company has no incentive to replenish their customer stock, unless they also want to avoid building a reputation for bankrupting their customers.

New customers aren't exactly lining up for more Bitfury hardware at current prices. Did you notice that the qty in stock in the webstore has been static for a while?

That would imply that Tytus operates on a false premise.

[superduh]

i think the doubling every month will continue until mid-janruary, at which point the market/blockchain will be so full of hardware that even filling preorders like cointerra wont have the massive hit to difficulty like right now.

that said, i really want to see some better pricing on h-boards next month. for 30-35GH operation, 2.5BTC is fair for november 15th delivery

with bitcoins being $150+ 2.5 btc doesn't look good at all.
it's better to just buy the btc, seriously. to *make ROI* and more at todays rate the hboard shipping in nov should be $200USD or less

[Xian01]

with bitcoins being $150+ 2.5 btc doesn't look good at all.
it's better to just buy the btc, seriously. to *make ROI* and more at todays rate the hboard shipping in nov should be $200USD or less

 It's wrapping back around to the GPU days, where the only way to make profit is to spend fiat to buy mining hardware (ASICs, in this case).

 It does not seem to make sense to spend Bitcoins to purchase Bitcoin mining hardware any more (and arguably for some time now)

EDIT: Fuck Capt. Hindsight.

[Swimmer63]

Mine your own equipment - certainly your right and I'm guessing the smart thing to do.
But then you should have never sold starter kits. You just piss people off by making them impossible to complete with cards.  I'm not sure what portion of the economic model you and your partners don't believe in.  But I understand the one where I give you $500 and for the privilege of mining about $250 worth of coin.  That's not a good model for me.  I would not mind break even.  But this model is broke.

[klondike_bar]

my h-board just arrived, and fedex lady took off without asking for $31.20 in taxes/duties!

ramping up to speed now, card looks good but who/whatever aligns the big dc power cube on the board did an amazingly bad job - its skewed at about a 20 degree angle. still totally functional, but visibly off-angle

[goxed]

my h-board just arrived, and fedex lady took off without asking for $31.20 in taxes/duties!

ramping up to speed now, card looks good but who/whatever aligns the big dc power cube on the board did an amazingly bad job - its skewed at about a 20 degree angle. still totally functional, but visibly off-angle

ahh do you mean the inductor? They are all  properly aligned on my boards. The only unaligned components in my board are some capacitors.

[dben428]

Received a shipment notification from FedEx.

I have one H-board as order #20x, and two H-boards as order #35x. I'm wondering if they were shipped together (no update yet in MBP order history).

[-Redacted-]

Received a shipment notification from FedEx.

I have two H-boards as order 25x, and one H-board as order 34x.  Don't know if they were shipped together - no update in MBP order history yet.