Analysis

[secousa]

If your charts weren't messy as fuck perhaps they could be more widely accepted by this thread's participants and viewers. Right now, I look at your charts and see dog vomit. I fail to see the inspiration of masterluc in your charting capability since his charts are crystal clear and simple, unlike yours which I can hardly even see the damn price candles. While you may have a valid analysis, you need to make it dead simple for viewers to see it. You also don't need 4 fucking oscillators - one usually suffices.

Either way, it's pretty clear that participants in this thread do not want to be spammed by your charts. Not only are they impossible to decipher without understanding your "brand" of charting (which is more reason to have your own space for it), but they have absolutely nothing to do with Elliot Waves - which is what masterluc is known for. No one has commented on your stuff to understand further what you are attempting to convey, but very clearly we go and comment on bitcoin_vanga / masterluc charts to see what HE conveys. If you can't see that, then you've got bigger problems that are outside of the scope of this forum - perhaps you should check out a psychiatrist to get some shit addressed.

Hijacking the thread of your "inspiration" to gain followers is not much different than shitting on his legacy.

[dmwardjr]

If your charts weren't messy as fuck perhaps they could be more widely accepted by this thread's participants and viewers. Right now, I look at your charts and see dog vomit. I fail to see the inspiration of masterluc in your charting capability since his charts are crystal clear and simple, unlike yours which I can hardly even see the damn price candles. While you may have a valid analysis, you need to make it dead simple for viewers to see it. You also don't need 4 fucking oscillators - one usually suffices.

Either way, it's pretty clear that participants in this thread do not want to be spammed by your charts. Not only are they impossible to decipher without understanding your "brand" of charting (which is more reason to have your own space for it), but they have absolutely nothing to do with Elliot Waves - which is what masterluc is known for. No one has commented on your stuff to understand further what you are attempting to convey, but very clearly we go and comment on bitcoin_vanga / masterluc charts to see what HE conveys. If you can't see that, then you've got bigger problems that are outside of the scope of this forum - perhaps you should check out a psychiatrist to get some shit addressed.

Hijacking the thread of your "inspiration" to gain followers is not much different than shitting on his legacy.

Perhaps you should ask Luc if he agrees with your views?  How bout that?

I'll take the constructive criticism to heart on "clear" and "simple" for the next update.  

Update on the 1440m (1-Day) TF:

[ha_ham_bk]

Old topic closed. lucif nickname rebranded. Analysis reloaded.

Determining trend.... Mid term trend is undefined. Market makes decision, and if you are looking for trading advise - here is it: Stay away from trading now, keep your funds in most comfortable position for you - fiat or btc.

The last figure I drew was this potential triangle.

I still believe that BTC will increase again, it will not be too low. At the present time retain the BTC in the wallet

[Bimmerhead]

Since this thread seems like it will be squatted on indefinitely, can I suggest one of you guys who speak Russian could start a new, highly moderated thread which is just used to cross-post our favourite Russian analyst's posts from VK and host discussion of the same?

[Millionero]

Since this thread seems like it will be squatted on indefinitely, can I suggest one of you guys who speak Russian could start a new, highly moderated thread which is just used to cross-post our favourite Russian analyst's posts from VK and host discussion of the same?

masterluc posted here on November 8.  His last post before that -- anywhere in bitcointalk, not just this thread -- was in May.  So it looks like he's not going to be very active.

If not for the language barrier, the master's posts on his Bitcoin Vanga blog wouldn't require interpretation; but because he uses Russian expressions that are slangy and particular to the culture of financial speculators, automatic translators don't work very well.  It's good that, occasionally, Russian speakers show up in this thread to respond to questions about language.  I agree that further pursuit of Vanga's prognostications should focus on the language.
Starting a new thread, like forking a coin, should not be done without due deliberation.   Bimmerhead's suggestion is a good one.  If we're going to start a new thread, having a Russian speaker start it is ideal.

[dmwardjr]

Well, all I have to say...

Sounds like "Small Thinking" to me.  How about thinking BIG? Why can't Luc be the one to create/begin a Technical Analysis/Fundamental Analysis/Mathematical Analysis/Manipulation (Wyckoff) Analysis, etc... thread of its kind and it flourish to become one of the best known sources for "productive" sharing?

Yes, there can be "side chains" [Like the one you're speaking of with a Russian translator] to add to this original he created, called, "Analysis."  Back then, several shared "productive" ideas all the time; the way it should have been.


And No, I'm not going to get pissed at you, Sir, for your comment. "Since this thread seems like it will be squatted on indefinitely..."  In fact, you're welcome to have the opinion you like.  It's "your" opinion.  Should want to fight for it.  Hell, I do.  ;-)

Who knows, I just might ware off on you after a while.  You know... Imbibe my spirit kind of thing... so to speak...  ;-)  

[windjc]

Since this thread seems like it will be squatted on indefinitely, can I suggest one of you guys who speak Russian could start a new, highly moderated thread which is just used to cross-post our favourite Russian analyst's posts from VK and host discussion of the same?

masterluc posted here on November 8.  His last post before that -- anywhere in bitcointalk, not just this thread -- was in May.  So it looks like he's not going to be very active.

If not for the language barrier, the master's posts on his Bitcoin Vanga blog wouldn't require interpretation; but because he uses Russian expressions that are slangy and particular to the culture of financial speculators, automatic translators don't work very well.  It's good that, occasionally, Russian speakers show up in this thread to respond to questions about language.  I agree that further pursuit of Vanga's prognostications should focus on the language.
Starting a new thread, like forking a coin, should not be done without due deliberation.   Bimmerhead's suggestion is a good one.  If we're going to start a new thread, having a Russian speaker start it is ideal.

We arent going to start a new thread. Eventually this idiot will get tired of being stupid and the thread will live on.

[dmwardjr]

We arent going to start a new thread. Eventually this idiot will get tired of being stupid and the thread will live on.

Ooooooh Great.... Another "Useful Idiot."

[dmwardjr]

Please go away, retard.

You'll be alright.

[Pab]

Please go away, retard.

You'll be alright.

Looks like btc is failing becouse of your analysis

[marcus_of_augustus]

Please go away, retard.

You'll be alright.

Time to respect the forum ... get a clue, you're not special.

[Gab0]

New masterluc update. It is very unclear.

Oh, wei! Bitcoin Kaput. Save who can!

Those who do not know that bitcoin in the future have the 2nd level of the financial model OSI and the entire world financial system are screaming, and in BCH in the future there can be only one more fork on the next increase in the block size.

From a technical point of view, opening the schedule of the previous post, we look at the second bottom of the trend line, we see that it is not broken and we go on to sleep.

https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga?w=wall-130254204_3631

[ragnar0k]

New masterluc update. It is very unclear.

Oh, wei! Bitcoin Kaput. Save who can!

Those who do not know that bitcoin in the future have the 2nd level of the financial model OSI and the entire world financial system are screaming, and in BCH in the future there can be only one more fork on the next increase in the block size.

From a technical point of view, opening the schedule of the previous post, we look at the second bottom of the trend line, we see that it is not broken and we go on to sleep.

https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga?w=wall-130254204_3631

OSI layer is the communication theory behind TCP/IP (or internet). I think what he implies that the lightning network will set the base for the next financial system, while BCH can only look forward to the next fork with a bigger block size.
The second sentence is quite clear so... Completely agree!

Thanks for sharing Gab0

[ragnar0k]

He made a new post that even with google translate I can't understand.
Seems like he is not using very kind words for the BCH guys

[dmwardjr]

Please go away, retard.

You'll be alright.

Time to respect the forum ... get a clue, you're not special.

So, now we have someone who can see my fascial expressions [whether foe, kind, humble, angry, etc...]; "know" my heart [Seat of the emotions, passions, desires]; "know" my spirit [Seat of the mind, the intellect, thought processes] through a freaking computer screen on a forum?  Geeeeeez

You act as though this is "your" forum; when it's "not" your forum.  It's a forum Luc created.

[RoadTrain]

He made a new post that even with google translate I can't understand.
Seems like he is not using very kind words for the BCH guys

He says that the BCH attack is impressive. But it doesn't change anything, because changing constants is not the solution.

He also says we are going to slowly trend towards weekly ma20.

[windjc]

He made a new post that even with google translate I can't understand.
Seems like he is not using very kind words for the BCH guys

He says that the BCH attack is impressive. But it doesn't change anything, because changing constants is not the solution.

He also says we are going to slowly trend towards weekly ma20.

Weekly MA20 is around 4 500$. So that means he is bearish short term?

It will rise over the next several months.

[Denker]

He made a new post that even with google translate I can't understand.
Seems like he is not using very kind words for the BCH guys

He says that the BCH attack is impressive. But it doesn't change anything, because changing constants is not the solution.

He also says we are going to slowly trend towards weekly ma20.

Weekly MA20 is around 4 500$. So that means he is bearish short term?

Well if the price moves down, the moving average will still move a bit as it's a lagging indicator.
So price and MA20 in the weekly chart could probably meet around the $4750 - $5000 area.
As the $5000 level should be tested anyway I see this as a good sign to build a good support in that zone.
So imo we could see 2-3 more weeks of downside. If we consolidate then or see a strong bounce like the other 4 times before this year needs to be seen.

[dmwardjr]

Update using the 2h (120m) TF - No Indicators except the one laid on top of the candles:

[DieJohnny]

He made a new post that even with google translate I can't understand.
Seems like he is not using very kind words for the BCH guys

He says that the BCH attack is impressive. But it doesn't change anything, because changing constants is not the solution.

He also says we are going to slowly trend towards weekly ma20.

Weekly MA20 is around 4 500$. So that means he is bearish short term?

Well if the price moves down, the moving average will still move a bit as it's a lagging indicator.
So price and MA20 in the weekly chart could probably meet around the $4750 - $5000 area.
As the $5000 level should be tested anyway I see this as a good sign to build a good support in that zone.
So imo we could see 2-3 more weeks of downside. If we consolidate then or see a strong bounce like the other 4 times before this year needs to be seen.

We are still parabolic, I don't understand the pessimism until we break below $5000. $5500 was a perfect bounce off the parabolic curve. We could still be at $10k by Jan 1 2018. I am not thinking downturn in the market for more than 5-9 days unless we go below $5k, then I am bearish for Bitcoin near term.