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January 30, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
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New post from Mluc:

"The picture is this. Here either flat (abc) or wedge (abcde). In the first case we have already made a bottom. In the second - we can still do. The second case seems less likely to me."


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January 30, 2018, 03:24:54 PM
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Isn't it going to (e) right now? Why does it need to hit (d) first? Can it go directly to (e) without (d)? The little blip up after (c), could that be the (d), in which case we are on the way to (e)?
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January 30, 2018, 05:28:13 PM
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For bitcoin to grow the alts must die

That is so not true, its pretty much the opposite of what should happen.    Every gold standard needs its silver or even its copper to circulate within the plain population.  If the view of bitcoin is to only serve the elite and exclude all competing innovation then I do not believe it will prosper.

More likely Alt coins will bring features, innovations and even alternate paths to Bitcoins ideas.    Nobody who is a fan of capitalism should be negative on competetion, I only see Bitcoin doing well by not following the downward path of dollar to centralised crony biased capital basis.

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January 30, 2018, 05:40:06 PM
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Isn't it going to (e) right now? Why does it need to hit (d) first? Can it go directly to (e) without (d)? The little blip up after (c), could that be the (d), in which case we are on the way to (e)?

A graph doesn't really predict the future, unless you have a "fifth" sense like mluc.
Can he make a mistake, sure, but I rather believe him than a hundred other predictions on the tradingview, unless someone else would have a similar track record. The guy (mluc) consistently made calls that the rise from 12k to almost 20K was a 'fake" one and was talking about revisiting 10K before going higher for quite a bit. It happened.
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January 30, 2018, 05:44:31 PM
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"masterluc" account had been compromised. Do not trust it.
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January 30, 2018, 05:51:34 PM
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"masterluc" account had been compromised. Do not trust it.

 Undecided

Thanks for all the analysis over the years!
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January 30, 2018, 08:21:55 PM
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I have other reasons to believe that the price may be due for a small pump towards $14k. That would fit the first of the Master's scenarios.

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January 30, 2018, 09:13:03 PM
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"masterluc" account had been compromised. Do not trust it.

Could you please give some evidence?
When did it happen?

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January 30, 2018, 09:24:28 PM
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"masterluc" account had been compromised. Do not trust it.

Could you please give some evidence?
When did it happen?

the evidence is on vanga site:
https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

he says:
Moя yчётнaя зaпиcь нa bitcointalk.org "masterluc" былa cкoмпpoмeтиpoвaнa.
My account at bitcointalk.org "masterluc" was compromised.

I guess, all it means that you shouldn't trust marsterluc acc here, nothing more .
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January 30, 2018, 09:28:30 PM
Last edit: January 30, 2018, 11:52:03 PM by Biodom
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new vanga post:
Oбъёмы пaдaют нa днeвныx = мeдвeжий тpeнд cлaбый. Я пo-пpeжнeмy cчитaю, чтo низы <$10к пoдлeжaт бeзжaлocтнoмy выкyпy.

Volumes fall on daily = bearish trend is weak. I still believe that the lower [than] $ 10k is subject to ruthless
buying btc for fiat redemption [I crossed unclear google translation, here it means buying or redeeming fiat for btc if you will].

EDIT: thanks @silverfuture !
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January 30, 2018, 09:42:48 PM
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"masterluc" account had been compromised. Do not trust it.

Could you please give some evidence?
When did it happen?

the evidence is on vanga site:
https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

he says:
Moя yчётнaя зaпиcь нa bitcointalk.org "masterluc" былa cкoмпpoмeтиpoвaнa.
My account at bitcointalk.org "masterluc" was compromised.

I guess, all it means that you shouldn't trust marsterluc acc here, nothing more .

Great thanks for clarifying. that makes a huge difference!
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January 31, 2018, 02:58:14 AM
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"masterluc" account had been compromised. Do not trust it.

Could you please give some evidence?
When did it happen?

lucif is masterluc's older account

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
While no idea is perfect, some ideas are useful.
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January 31, 2018, 05:18:18 PM
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Биткoин нe oдинoк. Taкaя жe вaкxaнaлия (нeyдepжимый pocт) твopитcя пoчти нa вcex ocнoвныx cтoкax. Toлькo пyзыpём нaзывaют пoчeмy-тo биткoин. Ho cкopo пpидёт вpeмя coбиpaть кaмни....
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Bitcoin is not alone. The same bacchanalia (uncontrollable growth) is created on almost all major drains. Only a bubble is called bitcoin for some reason. But soon the time will come to collect the stones ....

Does the Russian expression translated as "time... to collect the stones" refer to the Bible verse Ecclesiastes 3:5,
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together
and what does our venerable Grandmother mean when she intones the words?
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January 31, 2018, 06:18:00 PM
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Биткoин нe oдинoк. Taкaя жe вaкxaнaлия (нeyдepжимый pocт) твopитcя пoчти нa вcex ocнoвныx cтoкax. Toлькo пyзыpём нaзывaют пoчeмy-тo биткoин. Ho cкopo пpидёт вpeмя coбиpaть кaмни....
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Bitcoin is not alone. The same bacchanalia (uncontrollable growth) is created on almost all major drains. Only a bubble is called bitcoin for some reason. But soon the time will come to collect the stones ....

Does the Russian expression translated as "time... to collect the stones" refer to the Bible verse Ecclesiastes 3:5,
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together
and what does our venerable Grandmother mean when she intones the words?

Russians incorporated the english word "stocks" into their jargon, hence it is not "drains", but stocks, LOL at google translate here.
The second part, yes, it is the Bible reference, good catch Wink
I guess that he means that the stock market will have it's comeuppance at some point.

IMHO, it's a he, not a she; "grandma" is just for fun, judging by his most common use of some verbs personal endings.
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February 01, 2018, 09:00:17 PM
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What does it mean

Я пo-пpeжнeмy cчитaю, чтo низы <$10к пoдлeжaт бeзжaлocтнoмy выкyпy.

"the lower $ 10k is subject to ruthless redemption."

Google translate shows выкyпy as "redemption."  Does ruthless redemption (if that's the correct translation) mean heavy buying?
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February 01, 2018, 09:07:20 PM
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What does it mean

Я пo-пpeжнeмy cчитaю, чтo низы <$10к пoдлeжaт бeзжaлocтнoмy выкyпy.

"the lower $ 10k is subject to ruthless redemption."

Google translate shows выкyпy as "redemption."  Does ruthless redemption (if that's the correct translation) mean heavy buying?

It means buy sub 10k yes
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February 01, 2018, 09:08:37 PM
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What does it mean

Я пo-пpeжнeмy cчитaю, чтo низы <$10к пoдлeжaт бeзжaлocтнoмy выкyпy.

"the lower $ 10k is subject to ruthless redemption."

Google translate shows выкyпy as "redemption."  Does ruthless redemption (if that's the correct translation) mean heavy buying?

yep, I already explained it here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274613.msg29270815#msg29270815

Redemption here mean redeeming fiat for btc aka buying btc using fiat.
That said, I am not buying myself yet due to the fact that I like to buy when something is increasing in price.
The reverse never worked for me, personally.
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February 01, 2018, 11:45:10 PM
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Three new posts by masterluc .....

https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

Edit to add:

1. Volumes fall, the subwave overlaps
2. A counter-trend continuation pattern is formed (flag)
3. Flashcross 50% for a month there are only bear traps. The present bloating is slow and painful
4. Weekly ma20 is not broken (by closing) for the time being
5. Did not climb into the zone of the previous wave ~ 7700

The situation and the truth is strange, but I'm still convinced that this is not a long blowoff.
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February 02, 2018, 12:31:44 AM
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Three new posts by masterluc .....

https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

Edit to add:

1. Volumes fall, the subwave overlaps
2. A counter-trend continuation pattern is formed (flag)
3. Flashcross 50% for a month there are only bear traps. The present bloating is slow and painful
4. Weekly ma20 is not broken (by closing) for the time being
5. Did not climb into the zone of the previous wave ~ 7700

The situation and the truth is strange, but I'm still convinced that this is not a long blowoff.

goggle is questionable here
3. instead of 'present bloating' substitute with 'real deflation'
 the last phrase should probably read as: "I am still convinced that it is not a long deflation [of btc bvalue]

Of note: Enky sold and vanga/ml called him out here: "Too bad, yet another tired poker player threw away his cards"
The other two posts are a warning for the future with some graphic detail re pissing and ... yourself (he says that people are pissing themselves now, but will do #2 at some point later, however since he does not think that current trend is down long term yet, it could be much later [I assume after a rebound or new ATH]
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February 02, 2018, 12:40:27 AM
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Three new posts by masterluc .....

https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

Edit to add:

1. Volumes fall, the subwave overlaps
2. A counter-trend continuation pattern is formed (flag)
3. Flashcross 50% for a month there are only bear traps. The present bloating is slow and painful
4. Weekly ma20 is not broken (by closing) for the time being
5. Did not climb into the zone of the previous wave ~ 7700

The situation and the truth is strange, but I'm still convinced that this is not a long blowoff.

goggle is questionable here
3. instead of 'present bloating' substitute with 'present deflation'
 the last phrase should probably read as: "I am still convinced that it is not a long deflation [of btc bvalue]

Of note: Enky sold and vanga/ml called him out here: "Too bad, yet another tired poker player threw away his cards"
The other two posts are a warning for the future with some graphic detail re pissing and ... yourself (he says that people are pissing themselves now, but will do #2 at some point later, however since he does not think that current trend is down long term yet, it could be much later [I assume after a rebound or new ATH]

Right on..thanks for the update.
This cracks me up.
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Of note: Enky sold and vanga/ml called him out here: "Too bad, yet another tired poker player threw away his cards"

Busted.   Cheesy

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