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May 28, 2018, 05:31:39 PM
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The market is oversold in several time frames, but also with negative MACD and hugging the lower BB, so very weak.
For a bullish scenario to become possible, we need to move away from the lower BB and cross MACD into positive, there's about a week left for a possible pump.
Even so, if strong buys won't happen, a recovery could turn out to be a fakeout (and crash about a month from now), like in this scenario on Tradingview:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/fmjAIUtp-Puff-Puff-Pass-Bitcoin-From-Tha-Clouds-To-Tha-Grass-BTC-D/


Sometimes, if it looks too bullish, it's actually bearish
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May 28, 2018, 07:32:14 PM
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Why is Bitcoin there? At bitcoin, everything is bad in the mid-term. In the week-long picture, you can see yourself - in the negative zone of the BB, the falling ma20 and everything like that presses from above. Where do we fall? On my previous charts, there is a historical logarithmic support line in the 3-4k area, depending on how to navigate. In the area of ​​2000, we are met by a week-long ma200. I consider the support of this curve to be absolute at this stage. It just can not be pierced.

Bear the wind blows to us from Wall Street. There are very clever guys with big swaps, they are shaking the same button in all markets, including bitcoin. This is an exhaustive explanation of what is happening.

Once again I say bulls sleep at least until the 19 th year.


thanks for sharing that. i figured the master agreed, the situation is quite bearish. when the long term moving average supports (like the weekly ma20) have curved down, it's time for bulls to hibernate.

and the daily chart... the way we're consistently (for many months) holding the negative portion of the bollinger band and grinding the lower band---very bearish and really reminds me of 2014. not just the look of the chart but the hopeful sentiment mixed with dismal action.

back then i was much better at switching gears to bear mode; this time it took me a lot longer to recognize what was happening. Undecided

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June 18, 2018, 10:13:12 AM
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New post from Master:

Bидeли нoвocти пpo aтaки 51% нa фopкax? Эйфopия oт пyзыpя пpoшлa. Boйнa фopкoв, пpo кoтopyю я пиcaл гдe-тo тyт нaчaлacь. Maлo ктo выживeт. B кoнцe кoнцoв ocтaнeтcя тoлькo oдин фopк.

Did you see the news about 51% attacks on forks? Euphoria from the bubble has passed. The war of forks, going through I wrote somewhere started here. Few will survive. In the end, there will only be one fork.

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June 18, 2018, 11:15:18 AM
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Seems quite pessimistic  Roll Eyes

From my perspective, the great year(s) of the forks are behind us. The pressure seems more in focussing on real life usability now. If the tech does not solve a real problem (right now), mass adoption is postponed until the tech is mature enough. That could lead to several years of 'no hype' with dito languishing prices.

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June 18, 2018, 12:44:23 PM
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Seems quite pessimistic  Roll Eyes

From my perspective, the great year(s) of the forks are behind us. The pressure seems more in focussing on real life usability now. If the tech does not solve a real problem (right now), mass adoption is postponed until the tech is mature enough. That could lead to several years of 'no hype' with dito languishing prices.

I agree. I can not take his statement seriously.
The majority of forks will die off within the next couple of years.
So far Bitcoin is the only crypto with a real use case at the moment. Store of value and censorship resistent money.
And imo that's the most powerful use case you can have in today's financial world.
And with Lightning network on top of the base protocol who knows with what kind of business ideas the smart people in this space will come up with.
Altcoins will have a rough time, imo.
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June 22, 2018, 11:19:28 AM
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Seems quite pessimistic  Roll Eyes

From my perspective, the great year(s) of the forks are behind us. The pressure seems more in focussing on real life usability now. If the tech does not solve a real problem (right now), mass adoption is postponed until the tech is mature enough. That could lead to several years of 'no hype' with dito languishing prices.

I agree. I can not take his statement seriously.
The majority of forks will die off within the next couple of years.
So far Bitcoin is the only crypto with a real use case at the moment. Store of value and censorship resistent money.
And imo that's the most powerful use case you can have in today's financial world.
And with Lightning network on top of the base protocol who knows with what kind of business ideas the smart people in this space will come up with.
Altcoins will have a rough time, imo.

Tethered coins will mushroom fall winter 2018 when fortune 500 comes online. Bitcoin is obsolete comparable to patented systems of generation 5 coins and that emerging industry which will carry crypto above $2tn.

Patent studied 2017 Certified ABT/NFT catalogue
https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB_WAVES
ABTx swap certificate for https://opensea.io/collection/pimpfashion2 20m tokens per NFT
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June 22, 2018, 03:30:37 PM
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Weekly RSI / Stoch RSI 2018 vs. 2014:



We're in a quite interesting situation.

Moreover as you can notice Stoch RSI ( red line ) didn't manage to get to overbought since december, 2017.
Imho it means sooner or later we'll get a noticeable "slingshot" effect.

Weekly Candlestick Chart:



Bearish so far, yet we have a falling wedge.
What if we'll get a doji star on sunday close ?








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June 22, 2018, 05:21:18 PM
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Seems quite pessimistic  Roll Eyes

From my perspective, the great year(s) of the forks are behind us. The pressure seems more in focussing on real life usability now. If the tech does not solve a real problem (right now), mass adoption is postponed until the tech is mature enough. That could lead to several years of 'no hype' with dito languishing prices.

I agree. I can not take his statement seriously.
The majority of forks will die off within the next couple of years.
So far Bitcoin is the only crypto with a real use case at the moment. Store of value and censorship resistent money.
And imo that's the most powerful use case you can have in today's financial world.
And with Lightning network on top of the base protocol who knows with what kind of business ideas the smart people in this space will come up with.
Altcoins will have a rough time, imo.

You just misunderstood the statement from Masteluk, partly due to his 'cryptic' style of writing, partly because of translation.
What he was telling is exactly what you wrote above:
He wrote:
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... Boйнa фopкoв, пpo кoтopyю я пиcaл гдe-тo тyт нaчaлacь. Maлo ктo выживeт. B кoнцe кoнцoв ocтaнeтcя тoлькo oдин фopк.
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... Forks (meaning - both direct Bitcoin forks, and altcoins in general) started fighting with each other, and few of them will survive. In the end there only one fork will remain - the Bitcoin
If you read his prior posts, there is no other interpretation, as he supports only Bitcoin, and hates all other alts by some reason.

So basically you both are saying the same thing.

... this space is not for rent ...
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June 22, 2018, 08:54:09 PM
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no new analysis, though? i suppose he is just generally bearish for the mid-term. post-euphoria and all.... Undecided

i miss his charts.

Tethered coins will mushroom fall winter 2018 when fortune 500 comes online. Bitcoin is obsolete comparable to patented systems of generation 5 coins and that emerging industry which will carry crypto above $2tn.

"generation 5 coins"---ooooh, sounds fancy! remind me, what coins were generations 3 and 4? what's so great about this new "patented" technology?

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June 22, 2018, 10:05:17 PM
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So I guess some more patience for us HODLers.

I am HODLing, but I want to scream...
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June 23, 2018, 09:02:06 AM
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Why pollute this topic with this nonsense? Go spout it somewhere else please.
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June 23, 2018, 09:56:43 AM
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this generation modelling is a different perspective. and very interesting. is there any article or workshop for this?
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this generation modelling is a different perspective. and very interesting. is there any article or workshop for this?

It's a formula I dabbled with to categorize technological improvements on blockchain implementations combined with year of introduction. Future generations will incorporate AI software and organize global computing power towards IoT. Once you incorporate & extrapolate the novel concept of blockchain with Kurzweil/Bostrom/John Smart theories the true potential becomes very crystallized 10-20 years out.

The growth we have seen from $10B --> $850Bn is a fraction of what will happen when AGI software and robotics make use of the logistical advantages of blockchain. Applied to economic growth as we have all witnessed in 2017, rather than energy expansion (kardashev), a singularity type event based on proposed metrics could improve global gdp on a multiple of x15 from $70Tn to 1 quadrillion in a decade (roaring twenties 2.0).

No one will see that coming as little as everyone did 2017. Crypto peak of 850bn in december will be fibonacci wave 1 in a few years.

Gen 1: Bitcoin/Doge/Ltc (pre 2015)
Gen 2: Eth/Lisk/Maidsafe/Solarcoin/etc (2016)
Gen 3: Pivx/Raiblocks (early 2017)
Gen 4: Bulwark/Force/Gobyte/Desire masternode ecosystem (late 2017)
Gen 5: Tethered coins tied to fortune 500 merchandise of which Marquise Museum is an early entrant
Gen 6+: AI/AGI pegged blockchains that uses a share of smartphone/pc computing power to drive IoT

Patent studied 2017 Certified ABT/NFT catalogue
https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB_WAVES
ABTx swap certificate for https://opensea.io/collection/pimpfashion2 20m tokens per NFT
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June 28, 2018, 11:19:20 PM
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Telegram post from masterluc: Dow Jones closed under the daytime ma200. Caution.

"The difference between a castle and a prison is only a question of who holds the keys."
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June 29, 2018, 11:13:02 PM
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More from the master:

Cyть axтyнгa в тoм, чтo битoк идeт в тpeндe co cтoкaми oбычнo. A cтoки coбpaлиcь в aдъ. Ho этo в cpeднecpoкe (гoд). Mдa. Я пиcaл нe oднoкpaтнo. B дoлгocpoкe битoк OК.

The essence of akhtunga is that the cue ball goes in a trend with runoffs usually. And the drains gathered in hell. But this is in the mid-term (year). Hmm. I wrote more than once. In the long run, the cue ball is OK.

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June 29, 2018, 11:15:01 PM
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Better translation may be:

The bottom line is that the cue ball goes in a trend with runoffs usually. And the drains gathered in hell. But this is in the mid-term (year). Hmm. I wrote more than once. In the long run, the cue ball is OK.

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June 30, 2018, 01:11:41 PM
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this generation modelling is a different perspective. and very interesting. is there any article or workshop for this?

It's a formula I dabbled with to categorize technological improvements on blockchain implementations combined with year of introduction. Future generations will incorporate AI software and organize global computing power towards IoT. Once you incorporate & extrapolate the novel concept of blockchain with Kurzweil/Bostrom/John Smart theories the true potential becomes very crystallized 10-20 years out.

The growth we have seen from $10B --> $850Bn is a fraction of what will happen when AGI software and robotics make use of the logistical advantages of blockchain. Applied to economic growth as we have all witnessed in 2017, rather than energy expansion (kardashev), a singularity type event based on proposed metrics could improve global gdp on a multiple of x15 from $70Tn to 1 quadrillion in a decade (roaring twenties 2.0).

No one will see that coming as little as everyone did 2017. Crypto peak of 850bn in december will be fibonacci wave 1 in a few years.

Gen 1: Bitcoin/Doge/Ltc (pre 2015)
Gen 2: Eth/Lisk/Maidsafe/Solarcoin/etc (2016)
Gen 3: Pivx/Raiblocks (early 2017)
Gen 4: Bulwark/Force/Gobyte/Desire masternode ecosystem (late 2017)
Gen 5: Tethered coins tied to fortune 500 merchandise of which Marquise Museum is an early entrant
Gen 6+: AI/AGI pegged blockchains that uses a share of smartphone/pc computing power to drive IoT


That classification doesn’t make any sense as it liberally conflates the what with the how.
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June 30, 2018, 07:17:18 PM
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Better translation may be:

The bottom line is that the cue ball goes in a trend with runoffs usually. And the drains gathered in hell. But this is in the mid-term (year). Hmm. I wrote more than once. In the long run, the cue ball is OK.


cue ball is wrong translation of russian short form for bitcoin.  drain is wrong translation of stocks. some foreign words is being written without translation in russian  which causes misleading translation.


Cyть axтyнгa в тoм, чтo битoк  идeт в тpeндe co cтoкaми oбычнo. A cтoки coбpaлиcь в aдъ. Ho этo в cpeднecpoкe (гoд). Mдa. Я пиcaл нe oднoкpaтнo. B дoлгocpoкe битoк OК.

The bottom line of this alarming situation i.e. usually btc goes in trend with stocks. And the stock are going to hell.But it's in midterm (year). Yeah.I have written repeatedly. In longterm bitcoin is ok.
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July 01, 2018, 12:33:34 AM
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Better translation may be:

The bottom line is that the cue ball goes in a trend with runoffs usually. And the drains gathered in hell. But this is in the mid-term (year). Hmm. I wrote more than once. In the long run, the cue ball is OK.


cue ball is wrong translation of russian short form for bitcoin.  drain is wrong translation of stocks. some foreign words is being written without translation in russian  which causes misleading translation.


Cyть axтyнгa в тoм, чтo битoк  идeт в тpeндe co cтoкaми oбычнo. A cтoки coбpaлиcь в aдъ. Ho этo в cpeднecpoкe (гoд). Mдa. Я пиcaл нe oднoкpaтнo. B дoлгocpoкe битoк OК.

The bottom line of this alarming situation i.e. usually btc goes in trend with stocks. And the stock are going to hell.But it's in midterm (year). Yeah.I have written repeatedly. In longterm bitcoin is ok.


Thanks baseke. I got so used to this I think of bitcoin as the cue ball now. Wink

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Keep an eye on OBV.



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