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Author Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s  (Read 786835 times)
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January 03, 2014, 08:16:43 PM
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If anyone is interested in getting on the batch 1 train I put up mine in the marketplace

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395674.0
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January 03, 2014, 09:14:32 PM
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"Minion driver is now available
We have completed the first version of the driver for the Minion and submitted it into cgminer.

This driver has been tested and certified on FPGA.

After several months of tests we have concluded that in order to achieve the best efficiency with our code, the Minion will have to run at 1.01Ghz. For this reason we have increased the number of cores from 64 to 99."

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Does this mean the minion/x-1 will be overclockable to 150gh/s?
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January 03, 2014, 09:50:14 PM
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"Minion driver is now available
We have completed the first version of the driver for the Minion and submitted it into cgminer.

This driver has been tested and certified on FPGA.

After several months of tests we have concluded that in order to achieve the best efficiency with our code, the Minion will have to run at 1.01Ghz. For this reason we have increased the number of cores from 64 to 99."

  Shocked Grin

Does this mean the minion/x-1 will be overclockable to 150gh/s?

From the blackarrow forums...


y_boonstra, on 03 Jan 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:
"Is it true.. that we can overclock the units with almost 50%? as you reduced is to keep up the efficiency ?"

 
blackarrow on 03 Jan 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:


"This is not correct. By reducing the speed at the design time, the whole chip (netlist) changes."

Normally, we expect 20-30% overclocking capability. Note that this is not supported or advertised officially because we cannot guarantee it."




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January 04, 2014, 08:54:36 AM
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I've been following this thread simply because everything to this point seems a bit too good to be true


It depends on how/when you paid, but even for those of us who paid in BTC when it was over $1000/BTC, making ROI looks sketchy.

Everything has to go perfect - the difficulty has to plateau and they have to ship by the end of March. Thats for us to break even.

The mining game is effectively dead for those who are not a pool operator, mining hardware manufacturer, or 3rd party reseller.

There are tons of spaces to make money in the Bitcoin world. Its a huge, open field right now. Go out and play.

If you stay in the mining game in 2014 as a little guy, you will get crushed.
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January 05, 2014, 01:50:27 AM
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I've been following this thread simply because everything to this point seems a bit too good to be true


It depends on how/when you paid, but even for those of us who paid in BTC when it was over $1000/BTC, making ROI looks sketchy.

Everything has to go perfect - the difficulty has to plateau and they have to ship by the end of March. Thats for us to break even.

The mining game is effectively dead for those who are not a pool operator, mining hardware manufacturer, or 3rd party reseller.

There are tons of spaces to make money in the Bitcoin world. Its a huge, open field right now. Go out and play.

If you stay in the mining game in 2014 as a little guy, you will get crushed.

If you narrow that to purely bitcoin mining, I still think it's untrue, but you at least have good data.

There are many other coins that can be mined with ASICs, and then traded, or they might become something in their own right. This is not a one dimensional game.
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January 05, 2014, 03:07:33 AM
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"Minion driver is now available
We have completed the first version of the driver for the Minion and submitted it into cgminer.

This driver has been tested and certified on FPGA.

After several months of tests we have concluded that in order to achieve the best efficiency with our code, the Minion will have to run at 1.01Ghz. For this reason we have increased the number of cores from 64 to 99."

99 cores?  WTF kind of number is that?  Make it 96 or 128.

Anyhow, what I originally came here to ask BA is: When do you currently expect tapeout to happen?

"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
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January 05, 2014, 07:01:31 AM
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If you narrow that to purely bitcoin mining, I still think it's untrue, but you at least have good data.

There are many other coins that can be mined with ASICs, and then traded, or they might become something in their own right. This is not a one dimensional game.

PPC is the other viable currency using SHA256 but even that difficulty has been skyrocketing in the past few days.  If BA can hit their dates, it'll be a narrow ROI, any miss and it's a gamble at that point.
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January 05, 2014, 07:51:39 AM
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There are many other coins that can be mined with ASICs, and then traded, or they might become something in their own right. This is not a one dimensional game.
This is true but those who don't have a mining machine don't have to wait until April, May or June 2014 to buy a SHA or Scrypt mining machine but can do it now in different ways. There are solutions to start mining in few days... I am working on this and will have all ready in about 1-2 weeks, then will share it in a new post :-)

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January 05, 2014, 08:47:34 AM
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I've been following this thread simply because everything to this point seems a bit too good to be true


It depends on how/when you paid, but even for those of us who paid in BTC when it was over $1000/BTC, making ROI looks sketchy.

Everything has to go perfect - the difficulty has to plateau and they have to ship by the end of March. Thats for us to break even.

The mining game is effectively dead for those who are not a pool operator, mining hardware manufacturer, or 3rd party reseller.

There are tons of spaces to make money in the Bitcoin world. Its a huge, open field right now. Go out and play.

If you stay in the mining game in 2014 as a little guy, you will get crushed.

Why be a little guy alone? Get together with others and POOL your resources.

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January 05, 2014, 01:46:57 PM
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from BA website:
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Hosting starts in May 2014

Wait. What?
God, I hope they don't mean it for existent pre-2014 orders.

Dear Black Arrow LTD, can we get some clarification here on cloud mining starting date please?
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January 05, 2014, 04:45:52 PM
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from BA website:
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Hosting starts in May 2014

Wait. What?
God, I hope they don't mean it for existent pre-2014 orders.

Dear Black Arrow LTD, can we get some clarification here on cloud mining starting date please?


I.M.O.
If you ordered Cloud mining in 2013 and it's paid for,you will be fine. Remember the Minions used for "Rent" and those for building X-1/X-3 all come from the same "Batch" of chips. 
When the delivery date changed to Mar/10,so did the "Rental" date. This new date would apply to those wanting to place an order now.

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January 05, 2014, 06:00:02 PM
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Quick announcement:

There's a site that has come to our attention called "blackarroweurope.com"

This is not affiliated with black arrow and should be avoided. We are currently working on taking care of the issue.

Thanks
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January 05, 2014, 07:08:52 PM
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Quick announcement:

There's a site that has come to our attention called "blackarroweurope.com"

This is not affiliated with black arrow and should be avoided. We are currently working on taking care of the issue.

Thanks

They went to all that effort, and left the contact details as

Tel: 0123-456-789
Email: sales@yourcompany.com

I reported it to BIPS
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January 05, 2014, 08:49:12 PM
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Quick announcement:
There's a site that has come to our attention called "blackarroweurope.com"
This is not affiliated with black arrow and should be avoided. We are currently working on taking care of the issue.
Thanks
They went to all that effort, and left the contact details as
Tel: 0123-456-789
Email: sales@yourcompany.com
I reported it to BIPS
BIPS? To Bitcoin Internet Payment System?
What this has to do with fraud?
Thanks.

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January 05, 2014, 08:51:39 PM
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The scam site is using https://bips.me/ as a bitcoin broker.
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January 05, 2014, 11:10:58 PM
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The scam site is using https://bips.me/ as a bitcoin broker.
I see. Thanks!

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January 06, 2014, 12:34:38 AM
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Quick announcement:

There's a site that has come to our attention called "blackarroweurope.com"

This is not affiliated with black arrow and should be avoided. We are currently working on taking care of the issue.

Thanks

They went to all that effort, and left the contact details as

Tel: 0123-456-789
Email: sales@yourcompany.com

I reported it to BIPS

Thank you for reporting, their account has already been terminated!
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January 06, 2014, 03:15:44 AM
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Interesting, I went to the store site and attempted to log in. It says i don't have an account although i have invoice in my e-mail dated 24/09/2013. I guess i'll just have to wait and see what happens. This is probably due to the website changing since the early orders.

If your order was placed before the new website, you need to log on to the old one here:

http://archive.minersource.net

Cheers

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January 06, 2014, 03:34:03 AM
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i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"


WTF? Have I just been shafted?



I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?


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January 06, 2014, 04:15:28 AM
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i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"


WTF? Have I just been shafted?



I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?




You are best to contact Bobsag3 directly,there may be a chance you could squeak into Batch1 but BA closed Batch 1(1st batch of Minion to be made) on Jan/3. All orders placed now will be Batch 2 shipping in May.

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