[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

[zumzero]

DTS,  I have no idea why we are not trading yet and have expressed my disappointment in Ken.

Just understand that you fucked up big time by essentially lowering the perceived value of the shares beyond the current asking price of 0.0005 and for this reason we are all sitting in limbo right now.

God only knows how long this will now drag out for.  Way to go DTS. 

edit:   Talk about pump & dump,  this is the first recorded case of crash & dump.

Yeah zumzero and minerpart...  it's DTS's fault that these shares are worthless.  great job DTS.  great job keeping everyone from being able to trade their shares.  great job keeping the future price low by telling everyone what you will sell for once share are actually able to be sold.  you have single handedly caused activemining to fail.  as zumzero said YOU FUCKED UP.  no one else.  you did.

listen to yourself... what a load of shit guys...

You are so full of shit finloss.  DTS fucked up because ALL the buying has stopped since his offer to undercut 0.0005! Just take a look at the trade that was done in the 24 hours prior and it's easy to see that the Ukyo shares would have been sold by know and we would be moving on.

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[minerpart]

quit defending and removing blame from the ONLY person who has any control over this "company".

I don't often talk to you because you are very highly strung - and talk nonsense. I haven't defended this 'blockade' for a long time. I've been talking to DTS about his prices not Ken's. I'll say that again just for you. I've been talking only about DTS's prices. Not the 'blockade' and certainly not Ken's decisions. Haven't even mentioned the man.

[minerpart]

Fully custom would mean not using these right?

OK I get you. I just meant eASIC's 28nm line hence why I used the term 'line'. Ken did say we are going full custom and that means we are not using the easicopy or nextreme process. Just pointing out that the wraps have been on eASIC's 28nm Nextreme for a long long time and now they are in production. That must be significant for their custom 28nm process too? They must share some equipment, machinery, expertise between the two processes? In other words if Nextreme is finalised and scaleable then the full custom process is less likely to have any set backs from here?

[drawingthesun]

You are so full of shit finloss.  DTS fucked up because ALL the buying has stopped since his offer to undercut 0.0005! Just take a look at the trade that was done in the 24 hours prior and it's easy to see that the Ukyo shares would have been sold by know and we would be moving on.

We shouldn't have to wait until Ken has his Bitcoin fix before we can trade, the fact is Ken that holds us hostage until someone is willing to pony up 0.0005.

But yeah, it's my fault.

[finlof]

quit defending and removing blame from the ONLY person who has any control over this "company".

I don't often talk to you because you are very highly strung - and talk nonsense. I haven't defended this 'blockade' for a long time. I've been talking to DTS about his prices not Ken's. I'll say that again just for you. I've been talking only about DTS's prices. Not the 'blockade' and certainly not Ken's decisions. Haven't even mentioned the man.

DTS DOESNT HAVE A PRICE YOU FUCKING MORON!  HE HAS NO ACCESS TO ANY SHARES AND THEREFORE CANNOT SET A PRICE!  HE CAN SAY ANYTHING HE WANTS, JUST LIKE YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT.  IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT YOUR ACCESS TO SHARES, AND CONSEQUENTIALLY NOT AFFECT PRICE.  ONLY KEN AFFECTS PRICE BECAUSE CONFIDENCE IS 0.

edit - i think i will talk in all caps from now on because maybe then the unreasonable ones will listen to reason.  maybe...

[MrTeal]

Fully custom would mean not using these right?

OK I get you. I just meant eASIC's 28nm line hence why I used the term 'line'. Ken did say we are going full custom and that means we are not using the easicopy or nextreme process. Just pointing out that the wraps have been on eASIC's 28nm Nextreme for a long long time and now they are in production. That must be significant for their custom 28nm process too? They must share some equipment, machinery, expertise between the two processes? In other words if Nextreme is finalised and scaleable then the full custom process is less likely to have any set backs from here?

eASIC is a fabless semiconductor company. They don't have machinery.

[int3ractivodular]

All we're asking for is access to our shares that we paid for so we can trade them, it's not a complex request. Holding us hostage for this long is outrageous.

[Entropy-uc]

Looking forward to this thread after trading starts and the dust settles.

Since even the most gullible has now seen the light and wants out of this pathetic mess, the remaining cheerleaders will be the most highly concentrated collection of fools and scammers ever seen on the internet.

[minerpart]

eASIC is a fabless semiconductor company. They don't have machinery.

Sure we all know they use Global Foundaries but they don't do everything on PC's do they. They have testing stations no doubt? You don't think they might need more advanced machinery to test 28nm over 45nm?  

This guy is definately handling a real-world board with a chip on it here. He needs some sort of machine to test this proto-type doesn't he?
0:30 secs in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQsvbvv2Dww

ALSO - 'eASIC engineers can also create drop-in replacement packages for your easicopy™ ASIC and save you from having to re-spin and re-qual your PCB.'
http://www.easic.com/migration-to-cell-based-asic/devices-and-packages/

[tempestb]

Thing is, it appears everyone is under the assumption that when the Ukyo shares are sold that Ken will then add everyone's shares to be traded.  That's good reasoning, but I don't think Ken has actually said that is what he intends to do.  So he might sell all those shares and more and everyone will still be sitting here waiting for the transfer to take place.

[neilol]

Guys, I'm selling shares for 1 satoshi each. Consequently I'm also buying for 1 satoshi each so please sell me all of your shares.

Couldn't resist..

[Ozymandias]

Page 500 everyone, good work! Any guesses as to tomorrow's update?

[MrTeal]

eASIC is a fabless semiconductor company. They don't have machinery.

Sure we all know they use Global Foundaries but they don't do everything on PC's do they. They have testing stations no doubt? You don't think they might need more advanced machinery to test 28nm over 45nm?  

Why would you think that?

[minerpart]

Why would you think that?

Well I'll put it this way. I don't think the move from 45nm to 28nm - which has taken eASIC 3 years - comes without a need for new equipment for their inhouse engineers.

If you know any different let me know but it's a bit of a side issue and I think you are just trying to start an argument??

[Truffix]

Page 500 everyone, good work! Any guesses as to tomorrow's update?

Are You Ready?
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[mainline]

Lol, Reddit thread?  Reddit thread!
The wacky antics of Active Miners
http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1xlssd/active_mining_being_reported_to_sec_should_we/

Unregistered securities

You are making a comedy of yourself, if you want to get Ken for unregistered securities, are you not getting yourself?
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It is not illegal to BUY unregistered securities, just like getting robbed is not illegal.  Only robbing is illegal, you're OK.

That said...

Reaction when the court learns you invested in "...a virtual identity totally owned by the Active Mining Corporation (Belize) that represents both itself and its profits."

http://s23.postimg.org/awr1kmzyj/judge_judy_laughing_o.gif

P.S:  C'mon everypone!  Only 2.6 BTC to find out what happens next!  Isn't anyone tempted? 

[MrTeal]

Why would you think that?

Well I'll put it this way. I don't think the move from 45nm to 28nm - which has taken eASIC 3 years - comes without a need for new equipment for their inhouse engineers.

If you know any different let me know but it's a bit of a side issue and I think you are just trying to start an argument??

I'd be shocked if they didn't have new equipment since a lot of their computers will be replaced in 3 years, but in terms of requiring specialized new equipment to test 28nm vs 45nm Nextreme devices I would be surprised if they needed much. Software packages will need to be updated and the experience of designing the nextreme platform (as opposed to individual devices) would help with a custom ASIC.

It is all a bit moot though, as it seems pretty unlikely eASIC is involved with the 28nm design.

[Ozymandias]

Why would you think that?

Well I'll put it this way. I don't think the move from 45nm to 28nm - which has taken eASIC 3 years - comes without a need for new equipment for their inhouse engineers.

If you know any different let me know but it's a bit of a side issue and I think you are just trying to start an argument??

It is all a bit moot though, as it seems pretty unlikely eASIC is involved with the 28nm design.

If this is, in fact, the case, the 1mil NRE to eASIC would be considered, for lack of better term, poof?

[finlof]

Why would you think that?

Well I'll put it this way. I don't think the move from 45nm to 28nm - which has taken eASIC 3 years - comes without a need for new equipment for their inhouse engineers.

If you know any different let me know but it's a bit of a side issue and I think you are just trying to start an argument??

It is all a bit moot though, as it seems pretty unlikely eASIC is involved with the 28nm design.

If this is, in fact, the case, the 1mil NRE to eASIC would be considered, for lack of better term, poof?

if indeed it is poof, that's an expensive education.  and to think we as shareholders funded that...

[Ozymandias]

if indeed it is poof, that's an expensive education.  and to think we as shareholders funded that...

We certainly shouldn't jump to conclusions (though who am I kidding, that's what this entire thread is about and I myself have been guilty of this countless times), but I would like to know the answer to that question.