Baikal Giant N - Cryptonight, Cryptonight-lite FPGA/ASIC miner

[Mattthev]

So I've ordered one to test it. I will let you know when I have it.

[Prelude]

So happy to see this thing dead on arrival.. XMR + IPBC switching algos, with hopefully other CN coins to follow. Fuck you, baikal.  

[bubaba]

So I've ordered one to test it. I will let you know when I have it.

good luck dude

[jadefalke]

i will bail out on this one, to expensive, 1250$ would be a good price, but they will find enough sheeps who buy that miner...

[Prelude]

i will bail out on this one, to expensive, 1250$ would be a good price, but they will find enough sheeps who buy that miner...

Hopefully they won't. But the uninformed masses never cease to amaze me. This thing is dead on arrival. I'd love to see baikal lose millions with this ASIC due to all the major coins switching algos (Monero and IPBC confirmed so far) but they've probably already made their investment back by mining with these for a few months before announcing them, unfortunately.

[bitcoinexplorer]

So I've ordered one to test it. I will let you know when I have it.

From where did you order?
Why did you order? Share reasoning please!

[whoismoses]

At today's prices this thing would break even in about 3 months.

[Shnikes101]

So I've ordered one to test it. I will let you know when I have it.

From where did you order?
Why did you order? Share reasoning please!

Looks like he says where he ordered on page 3.

Anybody who knows this store?
https://asicminermarket.com/product/baikal-giant-n-monero-miner/

They deliver, they resell a lot of Baikal miners, but they are not too much reliable, especially bad communications if something defective in warranty.

Thanks. Yeah, I've read about the communication issue.
I will probably try to buy one from them then.

[adaseb]

So on the chip level.

Are these actual ASICs or just some fancy custom FGPA?

[xs.over]

So on the chip level.

Are these actual ASICs or just some fancy custom FGPA?

best question. Waiting for detailed teardown of these miners

[nsummy]

60 watts?  I'm going to call bullshit on that.  Also, you would think if they are selling a $4000 product they could afford to get someone in there to take a decent, professional photo;  Not some shitty iphone 3gs photo at a weird angle with a crappy mouse sitting on top.

[Raziel__]

i will bail out on this one, to expensive, 1250$ would be a good price, but they will find enough sheeps who buy that miner...

Hopefully they won't. But the uninformed masses never cease to amaze me. This thing is dead on arrival. I'd love to see baikal lose millions with this ASIC due to all the major coins switching algos (Monero and IPBC confirmed so far) but they've probably already made their investment back by mining with these for a few months before announcing them, unfortunately.

They can change algos as many times they like, if it stays below or at 1mb requirement you will be able to mine it with asic

[vorpalspear]

Monero POW is changing to CryptoNightV7 in about 15 days, so I don't think you can sell this as a monero miner..

Just saying 

That's great news. If these ASICs are real and are being sold, then they've been used for mining for a long time now, and they're only selling them in order to dump them because they'll soon be scrap.  And if Monero changes, most/all of the other cryptonight coins will surely follow pretty quickly.  I'd like to hope for a revival in cpu/vega mining.

On the sad side, if these ASICS are real, and their specs are real, then it could be a trivial task for someone to make new ASICs for the new algo. Is it a trivial task?

[JohnSch]

So happy to see this thing dead on arrival.. XMR + IPBC switching algos, with hopefully other CN coins to follow. Fuck you, baikal.  

are they a trustworthy company?
Anyone bought from them?

Yes can we trust Baikal?

Someone ordered it already?

I have ordered 240 miners from baikal (230 x10's, 10 giant B's).  All of them arrived on time and performed EXACTLY how they said they would.  I highly doubt the Baikal N will be DOA/SCAM and I think they will perform great.

[treanski]

if this miner really exists, they already used it for months and now they are trying to get rid of their used hardware before it becomes useless, because of the upcoming cryptonight v7 forks
this could be also a reason for the hashrate increase for many cryptonight coins(yeah botnets too)
many importand cryptonight coins already announced to fork.
look at their twitter page, monero disappeared magicaly from the list of minable coins

[qqqua]

if this miner really exists, they already used it for months and now they are trying to get rid of their used hardware before it becomes useless, because of the upcoming cryptonight v7 forks
this could be also a reason for the hashrate increase for many cryptonight coins(yeah botnets too)

exactly, hashrate spike was way too high to be related to release of overpriced aftermarket vega gpus, or creation of new botnets (most botnets already mined monero in 2017)

[Master1781]

So why the China mining farms spend thousand of kWh, instead of using this one?

[Prelude]

i will bail out on this one, to expensive, 1250$ would be a good price, but they will find enough sheeps who buy that miner...

Hopefully they won't. But the uninformed masses never cease to amaze me. This thing is dead on arrival. I'd love to see baikal lose millions with this ASIC due to all the major coins switching algos (Monero and IPBC confirmed so far) but they've probably already made their investment back by mining with these for a few months before announcing them, unfortunately.

They can change algos as many times they like, if it stays below or at 1mb requirement you will be able to mine it with asic

No, you won't be able to. You can't reprogram an Application Specific Integrated Circuit. If it were an FPGA, then yes, they could potentially make it work with a new algo.

[Prelude]

Monero POW is changing to CryptoNightV7 in about 15 days, so I don't think you can sell this as a monero miner..

Just saying 

That's great news. If these ASICs are real and are being sold, then they've been used for mining for a long time now, and they're only selling them in order to dump them because they'll soon be scrap.  And if Monero changes, most/all of the other cryptonight coins will surely follow pretty quickly.  I'd like to hope for a revival in cpu/vega mining.

On the sad side, if these ASICS are real, and their specs are real, then it could be a trivial task for someone to make new ASICs for the new algo. Is it a trivial task?

Trivial or not, it won't make sense financially since Monero will be modifying the algorithm every 6 months. It's not feasible to make an ASIC for that.

[Prelude]

So happy to see this thing dead on arrival.. XMR + IPBC switching algos, with hopefully other CN coins to follow. Fuck you, baikal.  

are they a trustworthy company?
Anyone bought from them?

Yes can we trust Baikal?

Someone ordered it already?

I have ordered 240 miners from baikal (230 x10's, 10 giant B's).  All of them arrived on time and performed EXACTLY how they said they would.  I highly doubt the Baikal N will be DOA/SCAM and I think they will perform great.

I didn't mean dead on arrival in the literal "product is broken and needs to be repaired" sense. The coins that this ASIC is meant to mine are changing the mathematics that need to be processed, and unlike a general processor, an ASIC can't be adapted. It can only do the one thing it was made to do. You literally couldn't ask any mining ASIC what 2+2 is, it wouldn't be able to answer you.