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Author Topic: Baikal Giant N - Cryptonight, Cryptonight-lite FPGA/ASIC miner  (Read 32821 times)
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March 12, 2018, 12:02:12 PM
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So is it a FPGA or ASIC? Or it has gender identity crisis?
It should be FPGA since it support 2 algos. Just like other Baikals.
But AEON algo is not really different from cryptonight apart from the size of the scratchpad.

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March 12, 2018, 12:03:58 PM
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So is it a FPGA or ASIC? Or it has gender identity crisis?
It should be FPGA since it support 2 algos. Just like other Baikals.
CryptoNight and CryptoNight-lite are basically the same things. An ASIC that works for CryptoNight will work for CryptoNight-lite without any additional hassle. They could've as easily not advertised CryptoNight-lite as they probably didn't need to add anything to what they created for CryptoNight initially.
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March 12, 2018, 12:13:05 PM
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theres no way 60 watts can be right, if it generates any heat whatsoever at that hash rate its gotta be a hell of a lot more!
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March 12, 2018, 12:15:09 PM
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So is it a FPGA or ASIC? Or it has gender identity crisis?
It should be FPGA since it support 2 algos. Just like other Baikals.

According to girl, its ASIC.

Also, it doesnt support 2 algos, cryptonight-lite is just cryptonight, but with half of the scratchpad.
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March 12, 2018, 12:30:04 PM
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So is it a FPGA or ASIC? Or it has gender identity crisis?
It should be FPGA since it support 2 algos. Just like other Baikals.

According to girl, its ASIC.

Also, it doesnt support 2 algos, cryptonight-lite is just cryptonight, but with half of the scratchpad.
Who's this 'girl'?
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March 12, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
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Where did you order it? Asicminermarket?
Yes, from there.

Did you pay them in BTC? If yes, what rate of exchange they used? How is it differ from Bitstamp/Bitfinex?
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March 12, 2018, 12:44:05 PM
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So happy to see this thing dead on arrival.. XMR + IPBC switching algos, with hopefully other CN coins to follow. Fuck you, baikal.  Smiley

Has any other CN coin announced support for the switch yet? Sumo and ETN, for example.
So far I've found $XMR $IPBC and $EDL who will introduce anti asic properties..  is there any other coin who will be anti asic?
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March 12, 2018, 12:52:43 PM
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So is it a FPGA or ASIC? Or it has gender identity crisis?
It should be FPGA since it support 2 algos. Just like other Baikals.

According to girl, its ASIC.

Also, it doesnt support 2 algos, cryptonight-lite is just cryptonight, but with half of the scratchpad.
According to Voskcoin it uses FPGA. I think that too... like they say on the Baikal Giant B thread those 2 Cryptonight algos probably should have been those 2 algos that they promised to add for Giant B.
I know the differences between Cryptonight and Cryptonight-lite, I was porting the latest XMR-STAK-AMD for Aeon...
I don't understand ASICs too much so I might be wrong.


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March 12, 2018, 12:53:10 PM
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Where did you order it? Asicminermarket?
Yes, from there.

Did you pay them in BTC? If yes, what rate of exchange they used? How is it differ from Bitstamp/Bitfinex?
I paid with LTC, 19.9 LTC.

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March 12, 2018, 12:53:46 PM
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So far I've found $XMR $IPBC and $EDL who will introduce anti asic properties..  is there any other coin who will be anti asic?
I think this asic is just many mobile/pc processors on one board and new monero algo is useless.
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March 12, 2018, 01:08:21 PM
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So far I've found $XMR $IPBC and $EDL who will introduce anti asic properties..  is there any other coin who will be anti asic?
I think this asic is just many mobile/pc processors on one board and new monero algo is useless.
if that's the case then it's not asic at all
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March 12, 2018, 01:12:21 PM
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So happy to see this thing dead on arrival.. XMR + IPBC switching algos, with hopefully other CN coins to follow. Fuck you, baikal.  Smiley

Has any other CN coin announced support for the switch yet? Sumo and ETN, for example.
So far I've found $XMR $IPBC and $EDL who will introduce anti asic properties..  is there any other coin who will be anti asic?
Also, XTL developers announced that they will switch to another algorithm to keep ASIC resistance.
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March 12, 2018, 01:29:57 PM
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So is it a FPGA or ASIC? Or it has gender identity crisis?
It should be FPGA since it support 2 algos. Just like other Baikals.

According to girl, its ASIC.

Also, it doesnt support 2 algos, cryptonight-lite is just cryptonight, but with half of the scratchpad.
According to Voskcoin it uses FPGA. I think that too... like they say on the Baikal Giant B thread those 2 Cryptonight algos probably should have been those 2 algos that they promised to add for Giant B.
I know the differences between Cryptonight and Cryptonight-lite, I was porting the latest XMR-STAK-AMD for Aeon...
I don't understand ASICs too much so I might be wrong.


Wouldn't it be possible to reprogram the FPGA for the new pow change albeit not trivial? If that was the case I'd assume that would have been their main sales pitch...

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March 12, 2018, 01:40:09 PM
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So is it a FPGA or ASIC? Or it has gender identity crisis?
It should be FPGA since it support 2 algos. Just like other Baikals.

According to girl, its ASIC.

Also, it doesnt support 2 algos, cryptonight-lite is just cryptonight, but with half of the scratchpad.
According to Voskcoin it uses FPGA. I think that too... like they say on the Baikal Giant B thread those 2 Cryptonight algos probably should have been those 2 algos that they promised to add for Giant B.
I know the differences between Cryptonight and Cryptonight-lite, I was porting the latest XMR-STAK-AMD for Aeon...
I don't understand ASICs too much so I might be wrong.


Wouldn't it be possible to reprogram the FPGA for the new pow change albeit not trivial? If that was the case I'd assume that would have been their main sales pitch...
In that case, monero is screwed. As soon as they release a new algorithm, Baikal would already be working on the new firmware.
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March 12, 2018, 01:44:35 PM
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So is it a FPGA or ASIC? Or it has gender identity crisis?
It should be FPGA since it support 2 algos. Just like other Baikals.

According to girl, its ASIC.

Also, it doesnt support 2 algos, cryptonight-lite is just cryptonight, but with half of the scratchpad.
According to Voskcoin it uses FPGA. I think that too... like they say on the Baikal Giant B thread those 2 Cryptonight algos probably should have been those 2 algos that they promised to add for Giant B.
I know the differences between Cryptonight and Cryptonight-lite, I was porting the latest XMR-STAK-AMD for Aeon...
I don't understand ASICs too much so I might be wrong.


Wouldn't it be possible to reprogram the FPGA for the new pow change albeit not trivial? If that was the case I'd assume that would have been their main sales pitch...
In that case, monero is screwed. As soon as they release a new algorithm, Baikal would already be working on the new firmware.
Not really, they can always ditch cryptonight for something else like cuckoo cycle. But yeah it makes a whole lot of difference if they're FPGAs or ASIC, if only they gave bit of more information before asking people for +$30k...

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March 12, 2018, 01:55:27 PM
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So is it a FPGA or ASIC? Or it has gender identity crisis?
It should be FPGA since it support 2 algos. Just like other Baikals.

According to girl, its ASIC.

Also, it doesnt support 2 algos, cryptonight-lite is just cryptonight, but with half of the scratchpad.
According to Voskcoin it uses FPGA. I think that too... like they say on the Baikal Giant B thread those 2 Cryptonight algos probably should have been those 2 algos that they promised to add for Giant B.
I know the differences between Cryptonight and Cryptonight-lite, I was porting the latest XMR-STAK-AMD for Aeon...
I don't understand ASICs too much so I might be wrong.


Wouldn't it be possible to reprogram the FPGA for the new pow change albeit not trivial? If that was the case I'd assume that would have been their main sales pitch...
In that case, monero is screwed. As soon as they release a new algorithm, Baikal would already be working on the new firmware.
Not really, they can always ditch cryptonight for something else like cuckoo cycle. But yeah it makes a whole lot of difference if they're FPGAs or ASIC, if only they gave bit of more information before asking people for +$30k...
This is what happens when there's no competition.
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March 12, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
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Just dropped a request on Electroneum official webpage for BANNING this miner. This ASIC will ruin mining experience. XMR already announced that they would ban this shit.
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March 12, 2018, 03:43:07 PM
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Just dropped a request on Electroneum official webpage for BANNING this miner. This ASIC will ruin mining experience. XMR already announced that they would ban this shit.
It will be funny watching ETN devs doing another great job on their Github and then rolling it back because whole net stop working Cheesy

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March 12, 2018, 03:45:04 PM
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Just dropped a request on Electroneum official webpage for BANNING this miner. This ASIC will ruin mining experience. XMR already announced that they would ban this shit.
It will be funny watching ETN devs doing another great job on their Github and then rolling it back because whole net stop working Cheesy

ETN has devs? TIL

Last time they paid a guy from the monero community to apply a patch that was written months ago because they had no idea what to do with it...

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March 12, 2018, 03:50:07 PM
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Yeah, I heard, but it says 72 hours shipping, would be great Cheesy

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