Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now!

[vesperwillow]

With legal inquiries being made, they needed to act fast to not look like the gestapo. I wouldn't trust this carrot just because it's being dangled on a new stick, but that's just me. They'll work to make their side of the story look great.

Suggestion for someone with access: wget the entire forum right now, and start taking screenshots of everything.

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[AndrewK]

I'll post my suggestion to alpha tech here as their forum is down for maintenance right now:

I have a suggestion, and I really think it is a workable solution... In fact in may be the only way you will keep customers around long enough to pay the final deposit...

With all of the scrypt asics that have already made it to market.... why not use any remaining deposit money plus some of your financing to buy some of the 28nm innosilicon miners. With enough buying power you could probably get a good price on them. Host them and give us the hash rate until you are able to ship the vipers. I'd pay my full order price (2x 250mh/s and 2x 50mh/s) if you could get me half that hash rate as I wait for my vipers and after you ship... you have a large farm of hardware to mine with, sell, or sell the hash rate.

Honestly, as long as you showed a detailed business plan with total funds, the bulk pricing you can get on miners, and solid dates on when it will be up and running you could probably get a majority of the people still holding out on the 70% to pay but you have to give us more detailed updates than the last couple. As for the business plan for cloud hashing it better be something (quality wise) you'd take to your bank and expect a loan from.

Anyway, I have my fingers crossed for you guys.
Andrew

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x1shaun22
Customer
Refund penalty

« on: Today at 02:41:51 PM »
Before I made my final payment, I asked about the refund policy penalty as it pertains to my deposit. I asked if I would be penalized on just the deposit portion or on my final payment as well. Payments told me it only applied to the deposit portion but now that I made my final payment, I am being told it applies to the total amount and I would receive a penalty on the entire cost. Can I get clarification on the cancellation/refund policy? It does not mention final payment in the terms of order. I have emailed payments 5 times for clarification but no response.

And now it has been deleted. Their new era of transparency lasted long. Wow!....Just wow!

Our forum is not for order, payment, refund inquires, as such they are deleted and the OP directed to the appropriate place of payments@alpha-t.net

Refund policy SHOULD BE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.  He had a valid question that should be addressed publicly. 

[vesperwillow]

Our forum is not for order, payment, refund inquires, as such they are deleted and the OP directed to the appropriate place of payments@alpha-t.net

Customer Support Forums usually provide Customer Support.

Good luck with your legal, and "other" issues, you will be facing shortly.

Honestly, as long as you showed a detailed business plan ..

They showed one once many moons ago, it was that awesome hand-drawn graphic detailing from start to finish what they would do. And they never updated it, isn't that awesome?

[s1gs3gv]

And the Alpha-T forum has been wiped clean …

except for this new topic: "A new direction for alpha-t"
(reproduced in part under the provisions of the Fair Use act in the public interest)

A New Direction For Alpha Technology

« on: Today at 02:03:11 PM »
Greetings Everyone,

I will try to keep this as short as possible as the full announcement is coming later on. Like you all we are not satisfied with the delay. In light of recent events there is a lot of hostility where we are wasting time defending ourselves and vice-versa for you. This is not helpful to anybody and will ultimately cost us all as such we have the perfect solution where everybody wins. This announcement will be unprecedented in the cryptocurrency industry and will be a game changer for our customers. We have 2 roads here as a company where we can leave things as they are with unhappy customers ensuring there is no future for us outside of batch 1 or we can fully commit to our original commitment of transparency and an ethical open approach. In light of this news we have decided to un-ban everybody who was ever banned and apologize if you felt it was unjust, we can now put all of this negativity behind us and move forward together as it should be. Sorry if this post doesn't make much sense at the moment but it will do soon, I will also edit it and add more later today I just wanted to say something asap. The announcement should be today, if it isn't please don't freak out it will be soon, it will also be announce in news articles and it will be great news for you guys that everyone, alpha-t customer or not, will want to be a part of.

edit: Anyone who has been previously banned from this forum is now un banned. Can I also kindly ask everybody post here for the moment regarding this so we can discuss this together. Also just a reminder, this forum is not for payments questions, orders, refunds etc. such questions will be of course be deleted.
« Last Edit: Today at 03:00:56 PM by Fiaz Malik »

Later on in the thread Fiaz says he's asked the 'Doctor' to move all the old posts to new section called 'Old'
However, at the moment they're nowhere to be found. [ edit: Fiat says they have been moved to the archive. https://forum.alpha-t.net/index.php?board=40.0 Login required.

So … here one day … gone the next. Is that the plan for Alpha-T too ? Tune in again (soon) to the Alpha-T channel for more (not never) news.

Speculation …

a) winding down the company, starting a new one … giving customers shares in a new company and soliciting new funds ?

b) announcing new shareholder, new capital injection, increase the Viper to 500 mhs ?

Only time (soon) will tell.

[marco5109]

it seems alpha finally reach the point where they except the fact that the customer is the ultimate boss
i personally keep the shield up till they adjust to present market specs and deliver
regards

[vesperwillow]

Lots of scrambling and regrouping, but once the dust settles we know how the story ends.

[spectrem1]

And the Alpha-T forum has been wiped clean …

except for this new topic: "A new direction for alpha-t"
(reproduced in part under the provisions of the Fair Use act in the public interest)

A New Direction For Alpha Technology

« on: Today at 02:03:11 PM »
Greetings Everyone,

I will try to keep this as short as possible as the full announcement is coming later on. Like you all we are not satisfied with the delay. In light of recent events there is a lot of hostility where we are wasting time defending ourselves and vice-versa for you. This is not helpful to anybody and will ultimately cost us all as such we have the perfect solution where everybody wins. This announcement will be unprecedented in the cryptocurrency industry and will be a game changer for our customers. We have 2 roads here as a company where we can leave things as they are with unhappy customers ensuring there is no future for us outside of batch 1 or we can fully commit to our original commitment of transparency and an ethical open approach. In light of this news we have decided to un-ban everybody who was ever banned and apologize if you felt it was unjust, we can now put all of this negativity behind us and move forward together as it should be. Sorry if this post doesn't make much sense at the moment but it will do soon, I will also edit it and add more later today I just wanted to say something asap. The announcement should be today, if it isn't please don't freak out it will be soon, it will also be announce in news articles and it will be great news for you guys that everyone, alpha-t customer or not, will want to be a part of.

edit: Anyone who has been previously banned from this forum is now un banned. Can I also kindly ask everybody post here for the moment regarding this so we can discuss this together. Also just a reminder, this forum is not for payments questions, orders, refunds etc. such questions will be of course be deleted.
« Last Edit: Today at 03:00:56 PM by Fiaz Malik »

Later on in the thread Fiaz says he's asked the 'Doctor' to move all the old posts to new section called 'Old'
However, at the moment they're nowhere to be found. [ edit: Fiat says they have been moved to the archive. https://forum.alpha-t.net/index.php?board=40.0 Login required.

So … here one day … gone the next. Is that the plan for Alpha-T too ? Tune in again (soon) to the Alpha-T channel for more (not never) news.

Speculation …

a) winding down the company, starting a new one … giving customers shares in a new company and soliciting new funds ?

b) announcing new shareholder, new capital injection, increase the Viper to 500 mhs ?

Only time (soon) will tell.

It doesn't matter what they say now. After all that has happened how can you trust anything that they say? -M

[9600]

and it will be great news for you guys that everyone, alpha-t customer or not, will want to be a part of.

[LTCagt]

calm down - and lets see how it goes on

they do know that if they have NO customers they cant go on - even not in Batch one

im at a lawyer today that is specialised on european law - i will tell this soon but first want to know what theyre palnning

Money isnt the Thing for me - but if someone tries to go on like i felt while discussing with AT i draw a line in the sand and say "OK you go to far -thats it"

im very angry - not while getting the Feeling to be frauded ....

(sorry for my english - im from outer space)

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x1shaun22
Customer
Refund penalty

« on: Today at 02:41:51 PM »
Before I made my final payment, I asked about the refund policy penalty as it pertains to my deposit. I asked if I would be penalized on just the deposit portion or on my final payment as well. Payments told me it only applied to the deposit portion but now that I made my final payment, I am being told it applies to the total amount and I would receive a penalty on the entire cost. Can I get clarification on the cancellation/refund policy? It does not mention final payment in the terms of order. I have emailed payments 5 times for clarification but no response.

And now it has been deleted. Their new era of transparency lasted long. Wow!....Just wow!

Our forum is not for order, payment, refund inquires, as such they are deleted and the OP directed to the appropriate place of payments@alpha-t.net

Yeah he emailed them 5 times already and has received no response so I'm guessing that didn't work. As you're here, why don't you clarify your refund position for us in an open public forum where posts can't be deleted or retroactively edited.

It would sure save your customers and your payments department a lot of time.

[vesperwillow]

calm down - and lets see how it goes on

They're refusing to provide customer support, or to respond in any way to the majority of folks who have given them money. They re-opened the possibility of folks losing hashrate, and their terms have yet again changed.

Let's face reality, at the onset their biggest selling term was: We will deliver by July at the latest, or your money back. You can have a full refund up until we ship.

Contrast that with now: You get nothing, maybe not even equipment, and you don't have a voice, nor will we support you.

You want to see how it goes from there?

[s1gs3gv]

[retro72]

Fiaz Malik
Administrator
Re: A New Direction For Alpha Technology

« Reply #53 on: Today at 05:54:14 PM »
We are going to disable visitor access to the announcements section as important decisions regarding our company must be discussed and voted on here. If you are a customer but have a visitor account please register with the email you used to order. If you do not have access to it as you bought an order from somebody else as always email payments@alpha-t.net for help. When such a time comes these topics will be created in this section and will can only be viewed as well by customers.

Looks like Alpha are shutting out prying eyes. Another hole in their much touted transparency.

FreeJack
Customer
Re: A New Direction For Alpha Technology

« Reply #58 on: Today at 06:20:13 PM »
Oh, man...important decisions about the company being voted on by a tiny minority of the total customer base, on these forums? I hope you give people ample time to create a login and respond.

That about sums it up

[s1gs3gv]

I'm sure one or more of their customers will keep us all informed.

Alpha-T and their sock puppets will be trying to justify whatever they are up to next by claiming it is the will of the customer …

This is quickly moving beyond the realm of an innocent screwup  …

[retro72]

Speculation …

a) winding down the company, starting a new one … giving customers shares in a new company and soliciting new funds ?

b) announcing new shareholder, new capital injection, increase the Viper to 500 mhs ?

Only time (soon) will tell.

With all the cloak and dagger stuff going on, I think you might be right with this assessment. I guess we'll have to wait and see

Fiaz Malik
Administrator
Re: A New Direction For Alpha Technology

« Reply #65 on: Today at 06:50:33 PM »
Update *should* be tomorrow, in the mean time I will lock this thread so everyone can catch up over night.

I guess we'll have to wait a while longer

[vesperwillow]

I wonder just how high the blood pressure would be for our bulldozer friend if he wasn't banned and could participate in this discussion.

Talk about lunacy, they're definitely showing they have no capability to control matters, and are passing the buck onto "customers". Notice how they blamed the public for their incapable management, and now are shifting the responsibility toward "customers" to control things.

This is gaining momentum to be one of the biggest crapfests yet.

[Wexlike]

I wouldn't be surprised if they announce that they cant deliver their miner - BUT they made an awesome deal with one of the legit scrypt asic companies, so they can buy their miners with a little discount with your preorder money.

[LTCagt]

calm down - and lets see how it goes on

They're refusing to provide customer support, or to respond in any way to the majority of folks who have given them money. They re-opened the possibility of folks losing hashrate, and their terms have yet again changed.

Let's face reality, at the onset their biggest selling term was: We will deliver by July at the latest, or your money back. You can have a full refund up until we ship.

Contrast that with now: You get nothing, maybe not even equipment, and you don't have a voice, nor will we support you.

You want to see how it goes from there?

im a customer too - and im very upset and very angry of whats going on there - i dont use my time to go to a lawyer just while i have nothing to do - just to be clear

but in this Special Moment - it makes no sense without knowing what they will do to write and write and write - so the calm down was menat

[9600]

I wouldn't be surprised if they announce that they cant deliver their miner - BUT they made an awesome deal with one of the legit scrypt asic companies, so they can buy their miners with a little discount with your preorder money.

At this point, you'd think their safest bet would be to bed with Zeus and their new target performance chips.