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[SecureErase]

@cex_io are tweeting from Bitcoin 2014 like a live newstream. No need to travel there. Or am I the only 'twit' here 

[kevstrophic]

Cyber Attack is very real and very dangerous.

Today's news 21 May 2014. Ebay got hacked.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/ebay-hacked-urges-all-members-to-change-passwords-86405258249.html

Previously Mt Gox got hacked and collapsed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10686698/Bitcoin-exchange-MtGox-faced-150000-hack-attacks-every-second.html

Personally, i think CEX.IO should enhance their security measures, especially with so many people putting their hard earned money investing in CEX.IO's cloud mining. 2FA is simply not enough.

Below are 2 recommendations for better security measures:

1) Bitcoins and funds should be insured. Many bitcoin companies are already doing it. Will CEX.IO consider this too? This the the bare minimum to enhance customer's confidence.

2) Cold storage offline vault. It should be also encrypted. So that it will greatly minimize any chance of cyber attacks.

Let's face it, the maintenance fee that we pay for CEX.IO's cloud mining service is not exactly low even with the recent lower of fees. Heightening the security of our investment in CEX.IO is the least that CEX.IO can do for us improving our trust in the company.

I am a customer of CEX.IO, I wish for the company to grow strong, so that I can grow with it too.
I hope to see improvements in the near future. Cheers

[SecureErase]

Nice trading newguy05. Interestingly GHS and FHM contracts at CEX.IO on a bullish streak this week. GHS 0.0071 +6%, FHM 0.00624 +22%.

Maybe a leading indicator for bullish Bitcoin price rise, just need someone like EBAY to say we'll integrate Bitcoin and.......http://www.coindesk.com/ebay-ceo-actively-considering-bitcoin-integration/ 
[/quote]

I am claiming credit for the new BTC bull run 

[cesmak]

Cyber Attack is very real and very dangerous.

Today's news 21 May 2014. Ebay got hacked.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/ebay-hacked-urges-all-members-to-change-passwords-86405258249.html

Previously Mt Gox got hacked and collapsed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10686698/Bitcoin-exchange-MtGox-faced-150000-hack-attacks-every-second.html

Personally, i think CEX.IO should enhance their security measures, especially with so many people putting their hard earned money investing in CEX.IO's cloud mining. 2FA is simply not enough.

Below are 2 recommendations for better security measures:

1) Bitcoins and funds should be insured. Many bitcoin companies are already doing it. Will CEX.IO consider this too? This the the bare minimum to enhance customer's confidence.

2) Cold storage offline vault. It should be also encrypted. So that it will greatly minimize any chance of cyber attacks.

Let's face it, the maintenance fee that we pay for CEX.IO's cloud mining service is not exactly low even with the recent lower of fees. Heightening the security of our investment in CEX.IO is the least that CEX.IO can do for us improving our trust in the company.

I am a customer of CEX.IO, I wish for the company to grow strong, so that I can grow with it too.
I hope to see improvements in the near future. Cheers

In my opinion, another level of securty is to have walled address memorized and locked, without an easy way to change it, cex.io will have to ask some (i don't know now what could be) extra information to permit a wallet change.

Cheers

[SecureErase]

Cyber Attack is very real and very dangerous.

Today's news 21 May 2014. Ebay got hacked.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/ebay-hacked-urges-all-members-to-change-passwords-86405258249.html

Previously Mt Gox got hacked and collapsed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10686698/Bitcoin-exchange-MtGox-faced-150000-hack-attacks-every-second.html

Personally, i think CEX.IO should enhance their security measures, especially with so many people putting their hard earned money investing in CEX.IO's cloud mining. 2FA is simply not enough.

Below are 2 recommendations for better security measures:

1) Bitcoins and funds should be insured. Many bitcoin companies are already doing it. Will CEX.IO consider this too? This the the bare minimum to enhance customer's confidence.

2) Cold storage offline vault. It should be also encrypted. So that it will greatly minimize any chance of cyber attacks.

Let's face it, the maintenance fee that we pay for CEX.IO's cloud mining service is not exactly low even with the recent lower of fees. Heightening the security of our investment in CEX.IO is the least that CEX.IO can do for us improving our trust in the company.

I am a customer of CEX.IO, I wish for the company to grow strong, so that I can grow with it too.
I hope to see improvements in the near future. Cheers

Actually to get BTC out is 3 factor - Login in credential (1) SMS to Phone (2)  Withdraw request e-mail confirmation (3). I would have to have my password, phone and e-mail compromised at the same time to be at risk of un-authorized withdrawal.

[aasl]

safety measures in cex.io are good.

[forzendiablo]

id liek to see LGD and SUN added

[WheresWaldo]

safety measures in cex.io are good.

or is it

[aasl]

safety measures in cex.io are good.

or is it

good for now.

[jjdub7]

Question - what explains the disparity in price between twentyseventy's BDD.MINE contract and CEX.io prices?  CEX.io prices are floating around the 0.00677/Ghs range, while BDD is trading at 0.00616/Ghs.  Both have a proven record of paying out...what's the difference?

BDD.MINE - https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=B.MINE

[SecureErase]

Question - what explains the disparity in price between twentyseventy's BDD.MINE contract and CEX.io prices?  CEX.io prices are floating around the 0.00677/Ghs range, while BDD is trading at 0.00616/Ghs.  Both have a proven record of paying out...what's the difference?

BDD.MINE - https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=B.MINE

Well one big difference is BDD.XXX is a pretty complicated vehicle to even understand. The CEX.IO GHS is simple to comprehend in comparison.

"Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) is a set of three distinct linked securities, BDD.MINE, BDD.SELL, and BDD.EXCHANGE, that allows users to speculate on the future of the Bitcoin Network Difficulty.

BDD.MINE acts as a 5 GH/s (5 GigaHash per second) Mining Bond
BDD.SELL is a bet that buyers will overvalue BDD.MINE
BDD.EXCHANGE is the security that can be purchased to receive a BDD Pair (1 BDD.MINE and 1 BDD.SELL)"

[jjdub7]

Question - what explains the disparity in price between twentyseventy's BDD.MINE contract and CEX.io prices?  CEX.io prices are floating around the 0.00677/Ghs range, while BDD is trading at 0.00616/Ghs.  Both have a proven record of paying out...what's the difference?

BDD.MINE - https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=B.MINE

Well one big difference is BDD.XXX is a pretty complicated vehicle to even understand. The CEX.IO GHS is simple to comprehend in comparison.

"Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) is a set of three distinct linked securities, BDD.MINE, BDD.SELL, and BDD.EXCHANGE, that allows users to speculate on the future of the Bitcoin Network Difficulty.

BDD.MINE acts as a 5 GH/s (5 GigaHash per second) Mining Bond
BDD.SELL is a bet that buyers will overvalue BDD.MINE
BDD.EXCHANGE is the security that can be purchased to receive a BDD Pair (1 BDD.MINE and 1 BDD.SELL)"

Right, but BDD.MINE in and of itself functions exactly like 5 equivalent shares on Ghash.io with the added benefits that its simulated based on the difficulty and paid out of the initial capital put in at the IPO, so it'll never encounter issues like failover pools/maintenance fees growing.  The EXCH and SELL are just mechanisms to prevent the price from entering a bubble (since new entrants can purchase a pair at the price ceiling set by the parameters of the derivative for BDD.EXCH and arbitrage trade if the combined market for MINE and SELL is over 103% of that stated value).

Same thing goes for PETAMINE, although those Ghs are priced a bit higher than BDD.MINE and are backed by real mining power like Ghash.  So is the difference just the backing presence of "actual" hashing power?  The price difference between these three assets hasn't hit convergence yet, and I'm trying to determine exactly what market forces are in play.

[CEX]

Dear CEX.IO Users,
We are glad to announce that we have started an official GHash.IO thread.

You can find it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627111.0

Feel free to stop by and say hi.

Thanks.

[pumawolf]

Question - what explains the disparity in price between twentyseventy's BDD.MINE contract and CEX.io prices?  CEX.io prices are floating around the 0.00677/Ghs range, while BDD is trading at 0.00616/Ghs.  Both have a proven record of paying out...what's the difference?

BDD.MINE - https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=B.MINE

   i trade at both,   all tho   havel  is cheaper , i perfer cex , cex is way more liquid.  and havel has trade fee or sell only, i forget the percentage. i dont even log on sometimes i just know my orders did not get match by the numbers i see. takes more patients to trade on havel. feels more suited for  long term than daytrade on havel.

[CEX]

CEX.IO adds new trading pair — IXC/BTC!

From now on, you are able to trade IXC/BTC at CEX.IO Bitcoin Crypto Exchange.

This is only the beginning of expanding trading options on our platform and we assure that you will see more similar updates in the nearest time.

Meanwhile, we invite you to try out trading at https://cex.io/trade#IXC-BTC.

[MICRO]

CEX.IO adds new trading pair — IXC/BTC!

From now on, you are able to trade IXC/BTC at CEX.IO Bitcoin Crypto Exchange.

This is only the beginning of expanding trading options on our platform and we assure that you will see more similar updates in the nearest time.

Meanwhile, we invite you to try out trading at https://cex.io/trade#IXC-BTC.

Cool , cex is moving up ... I love it as trading platform, but not to much as mining tbh .

[jjdub7]

Again, there are a number of investors in both BDD securities just waiting for people to come flooding out of CEX.io because its so overpriced compared to CEX.io GHs prices.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430137.0

If you go to Havelock, you can see that even with the current difficulty projection being lower than what we're used to , MINE shares are way overpriced compared to SELL shares because the EXCH share mechanism keeps the two in price parity.  However, SELL has also been paying 15-25% returns every difficulty increase, while MINE pays <1% daily (but more than the equivalent GHs would on CEX.io).

Obviously you'd need an account with Havelock to move your funds, but at the current prices, you'd increase your GHs by ~15% selling at 0.007, transferring to havelock, and buying BDD.MINE (5GHs/share) at ~0.031 (vs. the ~0.035 you're paying at CEX.io).

I've got money in both BDD securities for this reason - the NAV/U increases as more shares of each underlying asset are issued overall.  I switched over when twentyseventy first posted on the CEX.io forums (issuer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=125785 ).

[SecureErase]

Again, there are a number of investors in both BDD securities just waiting for people to come flooding out of CEX.io because its so overpriced compared to CEX.io GHs prices.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430137.0

If you go to Havelock, you can see that even with the current difficulty projection being lower than what we're used to , MINE shares are way overpriced compared to SELL shares because the EXCH share mechanism keeps the two in price parity.  However, SELL has also been paying 15-25% returns every difficulty increase, while MINE pays <1% daily (but more than the equivalent GHs would on CEX.io).

Obviously you'd need an account with Havelock to move your funds, but at the current prices, you'd increase your GHs by ~15% selling at 0.007, transferring to havelock, and buying BDD.MINE (5GHs/share) at ~0.031 (vs. the ~0.035 you're paying at CEX.io).

I've got money in both BDD securities for this reason - the NAV/U increases as more shares of each underlying asset are issued overall.  I switched over when twentyseventy first posted on the CEX.io forums (issuer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=125785 ).

There may well be BDD investors waiting for a 'flood' of CEX users coz it looks like they need more liquidity at Haveloc. Those instruments look relatively illiquid might make it difficult to trade efficiently.

I like the motto 'keep it simple' Liquidity and simplicity to understand and access CEX trumps BDD every day of the week.

Good luck there, just not for me.

[jjdub7]

Again, there are a number of investors in both BDD securities just waiting for people to come flooding out of CEX.io because its so overpriced compared to CEX.io GHs prices.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430137.0

If you go to Havelock, you can see that even with the current difficulty projection being lower than what we're used to , MINE shares are way overpriced compared to SELL shares because the EXCH share mechanism keeps the two in price parity.  However, SELL has also been paying 15-25% returns every difficulty increase, while MINE pays <1% daily (but more than the equivalent GHs would on CEX.io).

Obviously you'd need an account with Havelock to move your funds, but at the current prices, you'd increase your GHs by ~15% selling at 0.007, transferring to havelock, and buying BDD.MINE (5GHs/share) at ~0.031 (vs. the ~0.035 you're paying at CEX.io).

I've got money in both BDD securities for this reason - the NAV/U increases as more shares of each underlying asset are issued overall.  I switched over when twentyseventy first posted on the CEX.io forums (issuer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=125785 ).

There may well be BDD investors waiting for a 'flood' of CEX users coz it looks like they need more liquidity at Haveloc. Those instruments look relatively illiquid might make it difficult to trade efficiently.

I like the motto 'keep it simple' Liquidity and simplicity to understand and access CEX trumps BDD every day of the week.

Good luck there, just not for me.

Has anyone considered that GHash mined blocks 303107 thru 303114?  Tbh, because of the buy/sell nature of BDD, I've been monitoring blockchain.com and it seems like the GHash nodes tune down their mining power whenever they get past the ~6 block mark (the root parameter behind the 51% attack) in order to avoid drawing attention once the daily figures come out. 

If you don't believe me, look at the height/node listing:

https://blockchain.info/blocks

[OhMyCoin]

Interesting comments from CEX.IO about future plans on this Q&A:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=632300.msg7038679#msg7038679