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May 10, 2018, 07:03:37 PM
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Hello. I bought 1000 lottery tickets to increase my halved free BTC bonus but nothing happened  Huh. I asked my friend and he bought 900 tickets and his free BTC bonus increased to 17 satoshis right away. Mine remained 11 satoshis... What should I do?

Is it an official way to increase you halved free btc there? By buying lottery tickets? Never heard about it before, but I do not think buying tickets will increase your halved free btc. If it works like that, then how is the calculation? buy 900 tickets and get 6 additional satoshi on the free btc?

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May 10, 2018, 07:35:35 PM
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Hello. I bought 1000 lottery tickets to increase my halved free BTC bonus but nothing happened  Huh. I asked my friend and he bought 900 tickets and his free BTC bonus increased to 17 satoshis right away. Mine remained 11 satoshis... What should I do?

Is it an official way to increase you halved free btc there? By buying lottery tickets? Never heard about it before, but I do not think buying tickets will increase your halved free btc. If it works like that, then how is the calculation? buy 900 tickets and get 6 additional satoshi on the free btc?


I think I saw in this forum that buying lottery tickets and playing multiply BTC game is the solution to halved BTC problem. In addition, it helped for my friend... Am I wrong?
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May 10, 2018, 10:29:42 PM
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Hello. I bought 1000 lottery tickets to increase my halved free BTC bonus but nothing happened  Huh. I asked my friend and he bought 900 tickets and his free BTC bonus increased to 17 satoshis right away. Mine remained 11 satoshis... What should I do?

Is it an official way to increase you halved free btc there? By buying lottery tickets? Never heard about it before, but I do not think buying tickets will increase your halved free btc. If it works like that, then how is the calculation? buy 900 tickets and get 6 additional satoshi on the free btc?
keep buying lottery tickets or playing multiple btc, but I doubt his free btc is at 17s... strange amount
it definitely will increase your free btc but it won't adjust your reward back to full base reward
currently base free btc is 22 and your halved free btc is 11
so if you've done enough to increase it, you will be getting 22 satoshi (11+11)
unless the bonus is added full amount then it will be 33 satoshi (11+22)

read the last line in the orange notification box, it tells you exactly how to increase your free btc
it also shows your progress to the next bonus level and bonus amount you will be getting next
what is the amount you see there? mine is showing +22s (per level)
what is your total bonus reward? my bonus is at +44s now (the first line)
Quote from: freebitco.in
Bonus +0.00000044BTC added to all rewards!
Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00000418 BTC
94.6209% achieved towards the next +0.00000022 BTC bonus!

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May 11, 2018, 06:53:02 AM
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Hello. I bought 1000 lottery tickets to increase my halved free BTC bonus but nothing happened  Huh. I asked my friend and he bought 900 tickets and his free BTC bonus increased to 17 satoshis right away. Mine remained 11 satoshis... What should I do?

Is it an official way to increase you halved free btc there? By buying lottery tickets? Never heard about it before, but I do not think buying tickets will increase your halved free btc. If it works like that, then how is the calculation? buy 900 tickets and get 6 additional satoshi on the free btc?
keep buying lottery tickets or playing multiple btc, but I doubt his free btc is at 17s... strange amount
it definitely will increase your free btc but it won't adjust your reward back to full base reward
currently base free btc is 22 and your halved free btc is 11
so if you've done enough to increase it, you will be getting 22 satoshi (11+11)
unless the bonus is added full amount then it will be 33 satoshi (11+22)

read the last line in the orange notification box, it tells you exactly how to increase your free btc
it also shows your progress to the next bonus level and bonus amount you will be getting next
what is the amount you see there? mine is showing +22s (per level)
what is your total bonus reward? my bonus is at +44s now (the first line)
Quote from: freebitco.in
Bonus +0.00000044BTC added to all rewards!
Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00000418 BTC
94.6209% achieved towards the next +0.00000022 BTC bonus!

Well mine is at 17 Satoshi too at the moment. I think the connection between halfed and regular reward is not a cut off, but a smooth connection, so the more you spent, the more your bonus will go up until it finally reaches the regular reward.
The reason for your friend getting a differnent reward than you is that there are many factors to take into account. Besides the lottery tickets bought also the amount wagered in Multiply and the balace of your account is taken into account. Although there are only few information on this, it was confirmed that if you hold 50$ worth BTC in your account, you will get the regular reward. I would assume that your friend has either wagered more or a higher balance than you. Furthermore I assume the amount you already won in Free Rolls is also taken into account, so not the absolute amount spent in Lottery and Multiply is relevant but the relative amount of everything you claimed so far. This would mean if your friend has won less in Free Play it could explain the difference too.
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May 11, 2018, 07:02:01 AM
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Is it an official way to increase you halved free btc there? By buying lottery tickets? Never heard about it before, but I do not think buying tickets will increase your halved free btc.

It is fairly new but yes halved rewards are only for accounts that don't meet certain minimum requirements of wagering, playing jackpots, buying lottos tickets and/or keeping a certain balance.

See below:

The reduced free play base rewards is still a work in progress. We have been forced to put in additional protections to maintain our sustainability since there is an ongoing attack of a huge number of bots abusing the free play (most likely using a botnet). All our previous protections have failed against this and any new protections are adapted to within a couple of days. So we have been forced to reduce the free play rewards using an algorithm, specifics of which I cannot reveal as that would compromise it.

I've got a few more details about the reduced awards algorithm I can share with you.


The algorithm for reducing rewards takes a combination of the balance, wager, lottery and jackpot spending to calculate the reward. Jackpot spending has a higher weight (4x) and the lottery has the highest weight (20x).

If you do not want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to not have reduced rewards.

Most users will not need to keep the full balance though because their gambling history is also added up to calculate.

New accounts have full rewards for the first 100 rolls to help them build up a history and then the algorithm is applied to them. So opening a new account might seem like it helps but it won't.

Additionally, the balance needed to have no captcha is $100.


If it works like that, then how is the calculation? buy 900 tickets and get 6 additional satoshi on the free btc?
keep buying lottery tickets or playing multiple btc, but I doubt his free btc is at 17s... strange amount

I gave all the information wetsuit gave me above but I believe that getting 17 rather than 22 means that they are most of the way there. It looks to be increased proportionally rather than just a switch when you get back to full reward.

it definitely will increase your free btc but it won't adjust your reward back to full base reward
currently base free btc is 22 and your halved free btc is 11
so if you've done enough to increase it, you will be getting 22 satoshi (11+11)
unless the bonus is added full amount then it will be 33 satoshi (11+22)

read the last line in the orange notification box, it tells you exactly how to increase your free btc
it also shows your progress to the next bonus level and bonus amount you will be getting next
what is the amount you see there? mine is showing +22s (per level)
what is your total bonus reward? my bonus is at +44s now (the first line)
Quote from: freebitco.in
Bonus +0.00000044BTC added to all rewards!
Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00000418 BTC
94.6209% achieved towards the next +0.00000022 BTC bonus!

I'm also guessing that it is roughly based on the same algorithm as the bonus BTC but with the addition of taking your balance into account.



Hello. I bought 1000 lottery tickets to increase my halved free BTC bonus but nothing happened  Huh. I asked my friend and he bought 900 tickets and his free BTC bonus increased to 17 satoshis right away. Mine remained 11 satoshis... What should I do?

Unless you and your friend have exactly the same free-roll, gambling and deposit history the algorithm will give different outputs.



Actually I don't think so because some players do win in the "Multiply your bitcoins" and in the Lottery sections. You can check the STATS section to see how many Bitcoins were won by users and you'll see that the amount is impressive.

Speaking about the Multiply section, the site has 5% house edge and that's what they keep to themselves, not most of the Satoshis received from the FREE Rolls. Same goes for any provably fair dice gambling site, they don't care about winning or losing of a particular player, they just earn from the house edge.

The amount gambled is indeed quite impressive compared to other dice sites.  Wink You can also see the withdrawals on the stats page and they add up to a large amount as well.

The 5% house edge isn't what we keep to ourselves it is the gross income. That has to pay for the faucet and all the lottery tickets and reward points we give away. Then all the hosting costs etc. and what is left over is the profit.



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May 11, 2018, 11:58:08 AM
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Have anyone noticed the genius behind this site? You are given FREE Satoshi from the site via the Faucet, but the whole site

is designed to entice you to re-use it on the "Gambling" side. A popup that re-direct you to the Multiplier game and then

there is also the Lottery system and even the earnings from "investment" side. Most actions take back the Satoshi's that are

given for FREE. {This is still your choice, but it was genius to do it this way.} I think most Satoshi's received from the FREE

Rolls, end up back at the site. 
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Actually I don't think so because some players do win in the "Multiply your bitcoins" and in the Lottery sections. You can check the STATS section to see how many Bitcoins were won by users and you'll see that the amount is impressive.

Speaking about the Multiply section, the site has 5% house edge and that's what they keep to themselves, not most of the Satoshis received from the FREE Rolls. Same goes for any provably fair dice gambling site, they don't care about winning or losing of a particular player, they just earn from the house edge.

Yes, but just imagine if this was just a normal Faucet. You would pay out those Satoshi from your Ad income and you will

never see it again. This site had the vision to retrieve most of those Satoshi from gambling and lottery on their site. This is

like looking at a well oiled, self sustaining machine.  Grin  I saw this once at a Wine farm, where the workers were paid a salary

and the owner operated a shop on his farm. So due to the remote location of this farm, the workers spend most of their

salary at the owners shop... So the owner got back some of the salary he had to pay to his workers.  Grin 

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May 11, 2018, 12:18:27 PM
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Actually I don't think so because some players do win in the "Multiply your bitcoins" and in the Lottery sections. You can check the STATS section to see how many Bitcoins were won by users and you'll see that the amount is impressive.

Speaking about the Multiply section, the site has 5% house edge and that's what they keep to themselves, not most of the Satoshis received from the FREE Rolls. Same goes for any provably fair dice gambling site, they don't care about winning or losing of a particular player, they just earn from the house edge.

The amount gambled is indeed quite impressive compared to other dice sites.  Wink You can also see the withdrawals on the stats page and they add up to a large amount as well.

The 5% house edge isn't what we keep to ourselves it is the gross income. That has to pay for the faucet and all the lottery tickets and reward points we give away. Then all the hosting costs etc. and what is left over is the profit.


Of course that's understandable that a site like yours has a lot of working expenses apart from payouts to lottery winners, faucet claimers, jackpot winners etc. I'm even wondering whether the business is profitable, considering how much you give out each month. I haven't managed to find the withdrawals on the stats page, but I can imagine that the amount is big.

Thanks for elaborating! Smiley Keep up the good work!

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May 11, 2018, 12:32:59 PM
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Actually I don't think so because some players do win in the "Multiply your bitcoins" and in the Lottery sections. You can check the STATS section to see how many Bitcoins were won by users and you'll see that the amount is impressive.
that stats page doesn't show complete statistics, only positive numbers for marketing gimmick
it does tell you how much won by users but doesn't say anything about lost amount
it does show withdrawal amounts on blockchain but never mentioned total deposited by users
so only partial statistics available to us which used by the site to attract more users

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May 11, 2018, 12:35:57 PM
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I'm even wondering whether the business is profitable, considering how much you give out each month.

I doubt it would still be here if it wasn't.

I haven't managed to find the withdrawals on the stats page, but I can imagine that the amount is big.

It always shows the recent withdrawals including a link to a block explorer.

https://snag.gy/dM8JZB.jpg


The current payout address is https://btc.com/329koRvovTyNnd4ADrpR2uJHzXxfvKxta5

Although I think there is more than one address we use.



that stats page doesn't show complete statistics, only positive numbers for marketing gimmick
it does tell you how much won by users but doesn't say anything about lost amount
it does show withdrawal amounts on blockchain but never mentioned total deposited by users
so only partial statistics available to us which used by the site to attract more users

Or for wetsuits privacy.

Sites that give full statistics tend to be the ones with crowdfunded bankrolls. They need that level of transparency for their investors.

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May 11, 2018, 10:19:21 PM
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Or for wetsuits privacy.

Sites that give full statistics tend to be the ones with crowdfunded bankrolls. They need that level of transparency for their investors.

that could also be the reason for not showing complete details
I'm not saying the way he presents the data is wrong, it's common for dice sites to do that
just pointing out the 'won by users' part on multiply btc is only stating amount won without substracting the amount loss

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No, it's not forever. It is quite possible to hit it within 20,000 free rolls, but supposing you make 10 free rolls per day on average, it will take 2,000 days or from 5 to 6 years. Of course it might look stupid to work for 5-6 years in order to have a chance to win $200, but visiting the site from time to time is not exactly a work. It's not so hard to do especially if there's no captcha to solve, and also don't forget that you always have a chance to win it right away. Smiley

There is no way to hit that waiting for that long time, I think it is much more easier if you combine it with some few rolls then you do not need to wait for that long, a few rolls each day will really help you out but the problem is if their games and freerolls have coresspond to the roll number or not, if they connect each other then it might do

If you mean to ask whether you will win $200 by rolling 1000 in the "Multiply your bitcoins" section then the answer is no, you will not. And that's understandable because the site would go bankrupt if they were giving away that much. Theoretically you can win $200 in that section, but only buy placing a corresponding bet with a corresponding multiplier like on any other dice betting site.

Yes you will win it someday after you pass your 20k rolls then it might later be popped out, or may be it will be in the middle of 20k rolls, we never know or predict when it will pop out since this is all is just based on some calculations here. If you do some freerolls here I think you can get it in no time here, if you can do 1k rolls each day, then you only need 20 days to hit it if only freerolls and hi-lo games has the same output

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No, it's not forever. It is quite possible to hit it within 20,000 free rolls, but supposing you make 10 free rolls per day on average, it will take 2,000 days or from 5 to 6 years. Of course it might look stupid to work for 5-6 years in order to have a chance to win $200, but visiting the site from time to time is not exactly a work. It's not so hard to do especially if there's no captcha to solve, and also don't forget that you always have a chance to win it right away. Smiley

There is no way to hit that waiting for that long time, I think it is much more easier if you combine it with some few rolls then you do not need to wait for that long, a few rolls each day will really help you out but the problem is if their games and freerolls have coresspond to the roll number or not, if they connect each other then it might do

If you mean to ask whether you will win $200 by rolling 1000 in the "Multiply your bitcoins" section then the answer is no, you will not. And that's understandable because the site would go bankrupt if they were giving away that much. Theoretically you can win $200 in that section, but only buy placing a corresponding bet with a corresponding multiplier like on any other dice betting site.

Yes you will win it someday after you pass your 20k rolls then it might later be popped out, or may be it will be in the middle of 20k rolls, we never know or predict when it will pop out since this is all is just based on some calculations here. If you do some freerolls here I think you can get it in no time here, if you can do 1k rolls each day, then you only need 20 days to hit it if only freerolls and hi-lo games has the same output

I think you have misunderstood it again. You can't make 1k freerolls daily, you can make only 24 max because there is one free roll per hour, that's the point. I told you already that hi-lo games don't count. Please, try to read first the text you are replying to.

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I haven't managed to find the withdrawals on the stats page, but I can imagine that the amount is big.

It always shows the recent withdrawals including a link to a block explorer.

https://snag.gy/dM8JZB.jpg


The current payout address is https://btc.com/329koRvovTyNnd4ADrpR2uJHzXxfvKxta5

Although I think there is more than one address we use.
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3,208.24118665 BTC were sent from that address. That's an impressive amount. Thanks for the link!



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May 14, 2018, 06:43:27 PM
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LOTTERY ROUND 154
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #7 with 124 tickets.
#1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets.

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May 15, 2018, 07:02:51 AM
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LOTTERY ROUND 154
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #7 with 124 tickets.
#1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets.

You do not see that very often -> #1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets. I guess the people who has bought the highest amount of tickets, should win more regularly than people with a few tickets like that, but if this is provably fair, then people with low amounts of tickets should also win. <So I am glad to see this>

Did Wetsuit implement a "report" function for the Lottery too or is this only for the free rolls? <A email to encourage people to login to this forum to report their Lottery winnings?>

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May 15, 2018, 07:16:20 AM
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LOTTERY ROUND 154
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #7 with 124 tickets.
#1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets.

You do not see that very often -> #1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets. I guess the people who has bought the highest amount of tickets, should win more regularly than people with a few tickets like that, but if this is provably fair, then people with low amounts of tickets should also win. <So I am glad to see this>

People who buy lots of tickets will get more prices than those who buy few in the long term but in the short term people with few tickets can win more than those with lots of tickets due to variance. The point is, you never live enough to experience the long-term outcomes, so the short-term results depend on luck.
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May 15, 2018, 10:58:16 AM
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LOTTERY ROUND 154
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #7 with 124 tickets.
#1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets.

Congratulations on your winnings. I have been playing this for some time but  still not be able to win.

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May 15, 2018, 11:39:10 AM
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LOTTERY ROUND 154
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #7 with 124 tickets.
#1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets.

You do not see that very often -> #1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets. I guess the people who has bought the highest amount of tickets, should win more regularly than people with a few tickets like that, but if this is provably fair, then people with low amounts of tickets should also win. <So I am glad to see this>

People who buy lots of tickets will get more prices than those who buy few in the long term but in the short term people with few tickets can win more than those with lots of tickets due to variance. The point is, you never live enough to experience the long-term outcomes, so the short-term results depend on luck.

This is one question that has always bothered everyone and honestly I'm surprised that with just low amount of tickets he's managed to win huge.

I don't understand what do you mean by long term these tickets are only for one week and then you need to buy once more for next week. Are you implying if one buys it's again and again some time in future he may win?

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May 15, 2018, 11:47:00 AM
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I don't understand what do you mean by long term these tickets are only for one week and then you need to buy once more for next week. Are you implying if one buys it's again and again some time in future he may win?

I think he's getting at that the fact that the more you play a game with a house edge against you the closer to the statistical predicted result you get. Lower sample sizes have higher variance.

Personally, I don't think there is much use applying that logic to a lottery or anything with extremely long odds.

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May 15, 2018, 08:03:44 PM
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LOTTERY ROUND 154
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #7 with 124 tickets.
#1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets.

You do not see that very often -> #1 won 1.30762996 BTC with 2,994 tickets. I guess the people who has bought the highest amount of tickets, should win more regularly than people with a few tickets like that, but if this is provably fair, then people with low amounts of tickets should also win. <So I am glad to see this>

Did Wetsuit implement a "report" function for the Lottery too or is this only for the free rolls? <A email to encourage people to login to this forum to report their Lottery winnings?>


Until now, I do not yet see anyone with low tickets that claimed that they already win big amount here, unless there is only one players that use 0.06 btc and hit the 1st prize, thats all. So if you think it is provably fair, I can say yes but there is no proof yet that the address that winning is a solid address with human in it, that might be a bot or anyone that regenerate the address to get that prize as well

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So if you think it is provably fair, I can say yes but there is no proof yet that the address that winning is a solid address with human in it, that might be a bot or anyone that regenerate the address to get that prize as well

I have said this too before (can't find link to my post yet) that those winners could have been inactive members
the winner could be one of the unused/unmaintained accounts that has active referrals contributing lottery tickets
or unretrievable lost accounts because of forgotten password, lost email access and etc
or even banned accounts that I think still have valid records in the user database
the main thing is the account has active referrals that keeps generating lottery tickets

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