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Its not a massive deal and actually it just lets me simply tick the box alot of the time. But the confusing part of recaptcha is when it says pick the boxes with cars or signs and there is a main box with the object but also a tiny sliver of the sign or car on a second box below it. So is it testing me or should I just pick the main box where its displayed. Now I think about it I'm pretty sure I should ignore the sliver of object as its very common I have to re enter my attempt again. Or maybe it'll always ask me to complete more then one test.
I still prefer the pick boxes over having to write a word or some silly imaginary equation, again if theres two texts over written I'm never sure which they want me to write. My intelligence must be artificial :p
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September 21, 2018, 10:25:41 AM |
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Its not a massive deal and actually it just lets me simply tick the box alot of the time. But the confusing part of recaptcha is when it says pick the boxes with cars or signs and there is a main box with the object but also a tiny sliver of the sign or car on a second box below it. So is it testing me or should I just pick the main box where its displayed. Now I think about it I'm pretty sure I should ignore the sliver of object as its very common I have to re enter my attempt again. Or maybe it'll always ask me to complete more then one test.
I still prefer the pick boxes over having to write a word or some silly imaginary equation, again if theres two texts over written I'm never sure which they want me to write. My intelligence must be artificial :p
If you get just the box to tick and no challenge that means that Google has whitelisted you. I get that when I'm logged into my Google account but I get a challenge in an incognito browser window. The bit about whether or not to select a square that just has a little bit of the object in is subjective. Google don't program in answers but they actually learn the correct response from people filling it in. You just need to give the same answer that most other people gave.
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LOTTERY ROUND 173 This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #6 with 1,109 tickets. #1 won 0.42287693 BTC with 71,599,431 tickets.
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September 23, 2018, 10:22:48 PM Last edit: September 23, 2018, 10:37:44 PM by broke_tradah |
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They say AI is advancing greatly but I'm not convinced, most bots will still be bound to automated scripts and google should be able to avoid that. I think they also want to avoid inconvenience as its a standardised system
I'm not convinced that anything as sophisticated as AI is required for reCAPTCHA, I've been told they break it with good old fashioned brute force. Even with that being the case it is still the best captcha available at the moment. This is why TheQuack should not be allowed to speak on anything technical. Whoever gave him that line of bruteforce garbage is just blowing smoke up his ass (that would be wetsuit trying to hide the fact that he'll never be able to stop bots from solving recaptcha, ever, IDK why he even bothers to try, it's pointless). The way a bot defeats reCaptcha is very very easy. It's called a Human Farm (which a bot utilizes via an API). Here is an example: https://anti-captcha.com/mainpage (Scroll down to where it says: We assign a worker for your captcha and you'll see what a Human Farm is used for) It doesnt take a genius to figure out why ReCaptcha is outdated. The best way to fix the problem is to remove the feature that is attracting bots and requires any kind of captcha in the first place. Problem solved. BTW, all this "We're trying to stop bots" non-sense, is just that. Complete utter non-sense. This place uses bots as an excuse to bump up revenue of the site by making it sound like it's some huge battle, when it really isnt. It's all just smoke an mirrors. The only thing this freebitco shit does is steal your BTC right out from under you. Plain and simple. As the saying goes: Money flows from the stupid people to the rich people for the same reasons that water flows down a waterfall. Intelligence in this case is also gravity. The more intelligence you have, the richer you are. The dumber you are, the poorer you become. So while Wetsuit has a nice river of idiots filling the river of stupidity, I just fill my jugs as the idiots money floats by with my dice bot that people use (yet I'm the bad guy, LMFAO). Meanwhile Wetsuit is making his own little vacation island with all these idiot's capitol. For example, how about this complete moron thats at the top of the wagering scam this month, what moron wagers over 300BTC. Dude is so far ahead of everyone else that it's blatantly clear he lost everything and is trying to win it back. Bro..... ITS NOT COMIN BACK. LMFAO.
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September 24, 2018, 05:24:04 AM |
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For those that missed it, a happy lottery winner posted this in our other thread. Congratulations! you have won the first prize of 0.42287693 BTC in the weekly lottery draw at FreeBitco.in! The amount you won has been added to your balance on the website and can be withdrawn anytime. thank you
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I don't even think its brute forced. My computing teacher showed us how to get the keys by looking through some of the requests that got sent to the server when you successfully enter the captcha.
You'll all be interested to know that, yet again, I didn't win in the lottery.
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There must be a maximum limit that can earn interest, right? If someone were to park 1000 btc with Freebitcoin for a year, no way you pay out 40.8 btc in interest.
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There must be a maximum limit that can earn interest, right? If someone were to park 1000 btc with Freebitcoin for a year, no way you pay out 40.8 btc in interest.
If I'm not wrong, I didn't see any maximum limit for storing your coins on their site. They only tell us the minimum amount you need to have in your account to start earning interest and that is at least 30,000 satoshi (0.0003 BTC). Logically if you think people will not risk their 1000 BTC to earn just 4% profit from online wallet because if something goes wrong there is no guarantee for their 1000 BTC. As per current market price, 1000 BTC (6491010.00 USD) is a lot of money.
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September 27, 2018, 03:34:05 AM |
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There must be a maximum limit that can earn interest, right? If someone were to park 1000 btc with Freebitcoin for a year, no way you pay out 40.8 btc in interest.
If I'm not wrong, I didn't see any maximum limit for storing your coins on their site. They only tell us the minimum amount you need to have in your account to start earning interest and that is at least 30,000 satoshi (0.0003 BTC). Logically if you think people will not risk their 1000 BTC to earn just 4% profit from online wallet because if something goes wrong there is no guarantee for their 1000 BTC. As per current market price, 1000 BTC (6491010.00 USD) is a lot of money. That's correct. There is no maximum limit but the reality means that it is unlikely anyone would deposit an amount that large anywhere.
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September 27, 2018, 07:26:44 AM |
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Its not a massive deal and actually it just lets me simply tick the box alot of the time. But the confusing part of recaptcha is when it says pick the boxes with cars or signs and there is a main box with the object but also a tiny sliver of the sign or car on a second box below it. So is it testing me or should I just pick the main box where its displayed. Now I think about it I'm pretty sure I should ignore the sliver of object as its very common I have to re enter my attempt again. Or maybe it'll always ask me to complete more then one test.
I still prefer the pick boxes over having to write a word or some silly imaginary equation, again if theres two texts over written I'm never sure which they want me to write. My intelligence must be artificial :p
recaptcha with the current image is more effective than the use of text that was used before because there is already a website that can hack recaptcha in the form of text and if this is combined with other applications in the form of bots then this will hurt us all. so when I am a manual user I would suggest recaptcha images on freebitco.in
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September 27, 2018, 08:45:18 AM |
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Thats makes me more stupid then a computer then because I'm damned if I can figure out the answer maybe as much as half the time. Theres usually two sets of letters and no sure way to know which they wanted you to pay attention to, fine if one is more distinct but it always that way Google don't program in answers but they actually learn the correct response from people filling it in. You just need to give the same answer that most other people gave. Yea that figures, a bit like the search engine and they are grabbing random photos to stay ahead of the people trying to defeat the system I guess
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September 27, 2018, 08:48:22 AM |
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Its not a massive deal and actually it just lets me simply tick the box alot of the time. But the confusing part of recaptcha is when it says pick the boxes with cars or signs and there is a main box with the object but also a tiny sliver of the sign or car on a second box below it. So is it testing me or should I just pick the main box where its displayed. Now I think about it I'm pretty sure I should ignore the sliver of object as its very common I have to re enter my attempt again. Or maybe it'll always ask me to complete more then one test.
I still prefer the pick boxes over having to write a word or some silly imaginary equation, again if theres two texts over written I'm never sure which they want me to write. My intelligence must be artificial :p
recaptcha with the current image is more effective than the use of text that was used before because there is already a website that can hack recaptcha in the form of text and if this is combined with other applications in the form of bots then this will hurt us all. so when I am a manual user I would suggest recaptcha images on freebitco.in I hate recaptcha so much. It's okay for the first few times but if you do let's say more than 5 a day, they start giving you squiggles that are impossible to read. Definitely prefer picking boxes even if it ends up refreshing for wrong answers every time. I get so frustrated trying to figure out squiggly text that looks like nothing. Worse is using the audio. Sounds like garble garbage that doesn't sound like anything ever. So STT yeah, looks like we both have artificial intelligence!
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September 27, 2018, 09:10:58 AM |
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Guys, can we create our own contest here? "Find the one have max percent increase the balance in one week!"
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September 27, 2018, 11:06:29 AM |
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Guys, can we create our own contest here? "Find the one have max percent increase the balance in one week!"
If we're including free rolls I'll withdraw my funds now and get an infinite percentage! But that's not a bad idea though (unless people find a trick to do with the bonus on the multiply thing or just bet with tiny amounts, doubling a sat isn't as interesting as doubling a bitcoin).
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September 27, 2018, 11:40:19 AM |
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Guys, can we create our own contest here? "Find the one have max percent increase the balance in one week!"
If we're including free rolls I'll withdraw my funds now and get an infinite percentage! But that's not a bad idea though (unless people find a trick to do with the bonus on the multiply thing or just bet with tiny amounts, doubling a sat isn't as interesting as doubling a bitcoin). I think we can set a requirement about minimum balance to join Or split to many classes: under 100k sats, under 500k sat,... for example
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September 27, 2018, 01:50:04 PM |
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There must be a maximum limit that can earn interest, right? If someone were to park 1000 btc with Freebitcoin for a year, no way you pay out 40.8 btc in interest.
If I'm not wrong, I didn't see any maximum limit for storing your coins on their site. They only tell us the minimum amount you need to have in your account to start earning interest and that is at least 30,000 satoshi (0.0003 BTC). Logically if you think people will not risk their 1000 BTC to earn just 4% profit from online wallet because if something goes wrong there is no guarantee for their 1000 BTC. As per current market price, 1000 BTC (6491010.00 USD) is a lot of money. That's correct. There is no maximum limit but the reality means that it is unlikely anyone would deposit an amount that large anywhere. What if they split the amounts over several different accounts? What is the difference between you paying out 40 BTC for one account and paying it out for 1000 accounts? There are many old timers with a lot of coins, but I figure they will have better methods to increase those coins, than dumping it on a site with a 4% interest rate. That said, people do the strangest things when it comes to money. (Greed clouds people's judgement)
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September 27, 2018, 02:00:23 PM |
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What if they split the amounts over several different accounts? What is the difference between you paying out 40 BTC for one
account and paying it out for 1000 accounts? There are many old timers with a lot of coins, but I figure they will have better
methods to increase those coins, than dumping it on a site with a 4% interest rate. Roll Eyes That said, people do the strangest
things when it comes to money. (Greed clouds people's judgement) Those 4% interest rate are secure however, you don't have to trade or bet any coin to get your interests every day. It's by far more interesting than bank accounts (at least in my country) that offer 1% per year with limited amount.
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After reading the past comments I have an impression that the problem of faucet abusing by bots has not been completely solved. If it is so and if the site is still losing significant amounts because of that, maybe it would be a good idea to announce a competition for the best protection against bots. Since abusers can adjust quickly, the idea of protection have to be so good that even revealing its algorithm would not help a bit in breaking it. We all know that it’s possible, right? Satoshi Nakamoto has provided us with an example.
The first thing that comes to mind is taking advantage of the fact that all humans are different in all aspects while the bots are the same at some. Thus, after a certain amount of claims you can know almost for sure whether an account is being run by a bot or not. … Well, of course I know that most likely it’s not that simple. But I’m sure there are people much knowledgeable than me and that they can propose some really great ideas.
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What if they split the amounts over several different accounts? What is the difference between you paying out 40 BTC for one
account and paying it out for 1000 accounts? There are many old timers with a lot of coins, but I figure they will have better
methods to increase those coins, than dumping it on a site with a 4% interest rate. Roll Eyes That said, people do the strangest
things when it comes to money. (Greed clouds people's judgement) Those 4% interest rate are secure however, you don't have to trade or bet any coin to get your interests every day. It's by far more interesting than bank accounts (at least in my country) that offer 1% per year with limited amount. There is ZERO security with freebitco. If you dump your BTC there, you are LESS secure than storing your USD at a bank because there is NO insurance coverage. Period. A bank is less likely to just up and walk away with your USD for no reason at all than freebitco is to just up and walk away. Why? Because there are no consequences. Wetsuit could take all your shit today and there isnt a damn thing you could do about it. Thats not security. Thats gambling. And you didnt even have to roll any virtual dice to do it. All you had to do was make a BTC transaction. After reading the past comments I have an impression that the problem of faucet abusing by bots has not been completely solved. If it is so and if the site is still losing significant amounts because of that, maybe it would be a good idea to announce a competition for the best protection against bots. Since abusers can adjust quickly, the idea of protection have to be so good that even revealing its algorithm would not help a bit in breaking it. We all know that it’s possible, right? Satoshi Nakamoto has provided us with an example.
The first thing that comes to mind is taking advantage of the fact that all humans are different in all aspects while the bots are the same at some. Thus, after a certain amount of claims you can know almost for sure whether an account is being run by a bot or not. … Well, of course I know that most likely it’s not that simple. But I’m sure there are people much knowledgeable than me and that they can propose some really great ideas.
You cant compare a decentralized network with a centralized entity (such as freebitco). They are fundamentally different. And BTC is no more secure against bots than freebitco is. An example is last Nov when BCash supporter Roger Ver spammed the fuck out of the BTC network for 3 months.... straight. Causing fees to skyrocket. The same thing happens with freebitco (or at least thats what they want you to think, which I completely believe is just smoke and mirrors excuses). The only difference is that instead of fees going up, the base rewards are lowered. Besides, your plan is flawed. I can code a bot to be just as inconsistent as a human. It's as simple as rand(1,5); which would not process a function unless the random number it selected was X which is a 20% chance. It can be scaled from 100% to as little % as you want in order to mimic a human's inconsistency. Like I've said before, the fight against bots is FUTILE. They will NEVER win that battle. Ever. The ONLY way to win is to do exactly what I've been saying all along.................................... Remove whatever feature it is that the bots are interested in. It's that simple. Problem solved. I dont give two shits about the faucet because it's completely pointless. There is no point in making 25sats/hr or whatever. Even if it's via bot unless you're in a 3rd world country where $1 will last you an entire year. This is why I dont believe for a second that this place even HAS a bot problem to begin with. It's all just smoke and mirrors in order to have an excuse to milk you clowns of even more. Their problems are related to MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS. Not bot use. Mutliple accounts are not a bot problem. Thats a problem with the site itself. Just because bots create the multiple accounts doesnt mean they have a bot problem. It just means that the site is coded by an imbecile who cant do the most basic of security functions which is to prevent people/bots from spamming/abusing a feature it has. IDK whats so hard to understand about that. And if they REALLY wanted to stop multiple accounts, that could be done with KYC, 2FA, voice verification, Network UUID (the best idea, and most commonly used, ask me about it some day), or a multitude of other methods available. But, they dont. So we know that their multiple account issue isnt really all that big of a deal like they want you to think it is.
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September 27, 2018, 03:27:26 PM |
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What if they split the amounts over several different accounts? What is the difference between you paying out 40 BTC for one
account and paying it out for 1000 accounts? There are many old timers with a lot of coins, but I figure they will have better
methods to increase those coins, than dumping it on a site with a 4% interest rate. Roll Eyes That said, people do the strangest
things when it comes to money. (Greed clouds people's judgement) Those 4% interest rate are secure however, you don't have to trade or bet any coin to get your interests every day. It's by far more interesting than bank accounts (at least in my country) that offer 1% per year with limited amount. There is ZERO security with freebitco. If you dump your BTC there, you are LESS secure than storing your USD at a bank because there is NO insurance coverage. Period. A bank is less likely to just up and walk away with your USD for no reason at all than freebitco is to just up and walk away. Why? Because there are no consequences. Wetsuit could take all your shit today and there isnt a damn thing you could do about it. Thats not security. Thats gambling. And you didnt even have to roll any virtual dice to do it. All you had to do was make a BTC transaction. "Secure" wasn't the best word to describe my idea. Of course freebitco.in doesn't have any guarantee about the money you give them (I'm not sure whether a bank has more security - if they're broken, they won't give your money back as well - but that's not the debate). Question is, with a certain amount of btc you can play with (i.e. afford to lose), which is the best way to make them grow? A fixed interest rate, like freebitco.in offers, or trading/betting? There's less risk losing your money with the interest than with trading/gambling (excluding the risk that the website runs away with the money, risk shared with trading platforms and betting sites).
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