NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[abctc]

Problem is if BCNext don't show 1000000% commitment how can he expect even 75% commitment from the followers?

He did a social engineering fault by giving early adopters too much power maybe - now he is thinking of solving the mistake with another one!

If he abandons this how can he expect people will take him seriously in his Next project?

Brilliance is a double edge sword I suppose...

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well said.

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[starik69]

Confident? Sorry, but u have 24 hours to reveal it. If u fail to do this u'll be put into my ignore list as a troll. 13th of Dec 10:15 UTC is the deadline.

I think confident is a right word in the world of anonymous crypto. Of course, you can ignore me right now like crying girl, but i never will deanonymize my sources of information. BTW, what would you say if somebody asked you in the same manner to deanonymize BCNext?

[nexern]

wow, looks like things boiled up without any need.
we should avoid getting things to emotional here.
soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt* and if you take a closer look to the java binaries
you can see more than strong evidences colored coins are
ready to go soon.

to condense a little, cfb and bcnext are asking for support
from major stakeholders, nothing more and this request is
valid. it's that easy.

* and the design gives nxt the speed to add full customized
moduls in a time while others competitioners are still working
on their whitepaper thinking how to create these.

[crazybonkers]

wow, looks like things boiled up without any need.
we should avoid getting things to emotional here.
soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt and if you take a closer look to the java binaries
you can see more than strong evidences colored coins are
ready to go soon.

to condense a little, cfb and bcnext are asking for support
from major stakeholders, nothing more and this request is
valid. it's that easy.

+1

[Come-from-Beyond]

Confident? Sorry, but u have 24 hours to reveal it. If u fail to do this u'll be put into my ignore list as a troll. 13th of Dec 10:15 UTC is the deadline.

I think confident is a right word in the world of anonymous crypto. Of course, you can ignore me right now like crying girl, but i never will deanonymize my sources of information. BTW, what would you say if somebody asked you in the same manner to deanonymize BCNext?

U still have 23:50 left, think once again. Noone buys ur "i never will deanonymize my sources of information" bullshit.

[starik69]

No, most stakeholders did not have to PM c-f-b if they did the claiming process before the genesis block, as they were supposed to. Only a few laggers (apparently 5%) had to PM c-f-b to claim their *unclaimed coins* (after genesis block).

You know nothing.

[xibeijan]

Now you're contradicting yourself.

Now time for bad news.
[...]
He can't force them to do all these things but he can quit this project and join other cryptocoin, no matter if it's called ClonedNxt, and contribute his ideas and code to a competitor of Nxt...
[...]

No contradiction. "Start a new" =/= "join another". What the game do u play, Mr. Xibeijan?

Don't agree with you there, but let the forums decide.

I hope you and Mr BCNxt straighten it out.

I don't think forcing the markets by threatening to quit is a sensible strategy.

[Come-from-Beyond]

I don't think forcing the markets by threatening to quit is a sensible strategy.

I agree.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Well, guys. I'm leaving this thread coz I have to prepare a node for nexern who is developing a much better client for Nxt decentralized exchange.

[xibeijan]

soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt*

I hope so, but what we really want is for NXT to be the most innovative with its decentralised exchange, not just another client.

Will this new client be a decentralised exchange or just a website?

[nexern]

Now you're contradicting yourself.

Now time for bad news.
[...]
He can't force them to do all these things but he can quit this project and join other cryptocoin, no matter if it's called ClonedNxt, and contribute his ideas and code to a competitor of Nxt...
[...]

No contradiction. "Start a new" =/= "join another". What the game do u play, Mr. Xibeijan?

Don't agree with you there, but let the forums decide.

I hope you and Mr BCNxt straighten it out.

I don't think forcing the markets by threatening to quit is a sensible strategy.

xibeijan, as an attentive forum member you should recognize that all dev's are at 110%.
leading them into an emotional path for pressurized statements by provocating is not wise nor fair.

especially while sitting in a warmed up chair...

[nexern]

soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt*

I hope so, but what we really want is for NXT to be the most innovative with its decentralised exchange, not just another client.

Will this new client be a decentralised exchange or just a website?

supports full decentralised exchange, software*, small, fast, portable, easy gui.

*compiled, no java, no website

[xibeijan]

soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt*

I hope so, but what we really want is for NXT to be the most innovative with its decentralised exchange, not just another client.

Will this new client be a decentralised exchange or just a website?

supports full decentralised exchange, software*, small, fast, portable, easy gui.

*compiled, no java, no website

That's more like it.  And, based on the job you've done with the block chain explorer, I'm confident you can do it, but we will see.

[pandaisftw]

I have this bug to report. It's a second or third time I've seen it and I think it's easily reproduceable. This is on Debian Linux. Not sure if this is OS specific, but trying to give all details here. It may even be a known issue, not sure.

I have started NXT 0.3.18 and it began to download the blockchain. Then I tried to terminate it with CTRL+C BEFORE it fully downloaded, but it didn't want to exit, so I issued a kill -9 PID. Then I started the software again, but it turns out the blocks.nxt got corrupted, because the browser began to spit the java.nullpointer exception message. Had to stop the server, replace blocks.nxt with the blocks.nxt.bak file, and then start it again, and then it was alright.

So, why is it, that before the full block chain is downloaded and you stop the server, the server doesn't want to exit, and kill -9 PID corrupts the blocks.nxt file. There has to be a way to exit the server without corrupting the block chain even though the block chain isn't fully downloaded. Or did I have to wait longer for the server to exit after CTRL+C?

Thx for the report. I'll add a code that checks if CTRL+C was pressed during blockchain downloading.


Those who don't see blocks, please, check if ur blocks.nxt file is growing.

blocks.nxt file is growing. I think(?) I found the problem. I had to refresh the page once the entire blockchain finishes catching up in order to see the new blocks. That also seems to include when it randomly "catches up" mid-session. So anytime I catch up, I have to refresh the page. Not sure if this is true, just my theory, I will watch it some more.

So I looked some more, and the blockchain froze again when "catching up...", no matter how many times I refreshed. blocks.nxt file stopped increasing as well.

[xibeijan]

I don't think forcing the markets by threatening to quit is a sensible strategy.

xibeijan, as an attentive forum member you should recognize that all dev's are at 110%.
leading them into an emotional path for pressurized statements by provocating is not wise nor fair.

especially while sitting in a warmed up chair...

I think you will find that the "emotional path" leeds back to BCNxt threatening to abandon NXT unless the markets behave as he desires.  This was not a smart move.

I see your point, but please try to see it from the perspective of those who have invested hard earned cash into NXT.

Statements like that are unacceptable.

Anyway, if you can deliver the dencetralized colored coins exchange, then all of this will be irrelevant.

It seems you're back on track.  Keep up the good work!

Just don't expect the markets to behave as you'd imagine they should... because they won't.

[nexern]

soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt*

I hope so, but what we really want is for NXT to be the most innovative with its decentralised exchange, not just another client.

Will this new client be a decentralised exchange or just a website?

supports full decentralised exchange, software*, small, fast, portable, easy gui.

*compiled, no java, no website

That's more like it.  And, based on the job you've done with the block chain explorer, I'm confident you can do it, but we will see.

thanks for you pre-trust and you are right, i am also against vaporware.
i will make an announcement tomorrow, when i have seen the api.
it's up to the community then, to decide if nxt want and need this client.

[Jean-Luc]

Finally managed to have the hallmark done and decoded correctly, after manually encoding all special characters.

I also did this once, and then decided nobody should have to do it manually. So here is a very simple html form one can use to generate hallmark, letting the browser take care of the encoding. No javascript tricks, plain old html. Save this file as nxt/webapps/root/markHost.html and then go to https://localhost:7875/nxt/markHost.html .

Code:

<html>
	<head><title>Generate a Hallmark for your NXT node</title></head>
	<body>
		<form action="/nxt" method="GET">
			<input type="hidden" name="requestType" value="markHost"/>
			<table>
				<tr>
					<td>Public IP:</td>
					<td><input type="text" name="host"/></td>
				</tr>
				<tr>
					<td>Weight:</td>
					<td><input type="number" name="weight" value="100"/></td>
				</tr>
				<tr>
					<td>Date:</td>
					<td><input type="text" name="date" value="2013-12-10"/></td>
				</tr>
				<tr>
					<td>Secret Phrase:</td>
					<td><input type="password" name="secretPhrase"/></td>
				</tr>
				<tr>
					<td><input type="submit" value="submit"/></td>
					<td></td>
				</tr>
			</table>
		</form>
	</body>
</html>

Warning:
After doing this request, http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=markHost&secretPhrase=MY_SECRET&host=MY_HOST&weight=HOST_WEIGHT&date=CURRENT_DATE
your secret passphrase is stored in clear text in your browsing history! Remember to securely delete your browsing history after doing this task.

This warning is still valid. I tried to use POST instead of GET, but then I get a NullPointerException. Once this is fixed, the above form should be changed to use POST and the secretPhrase will not appear in the browser history.

[wizzardTim]

Now time for bad news.

BCNext is becoming more and more angry coz of stakeholders who don't help Nxt. They don't run their nodes, they don't support bounties, they don't take part in Nxt promotion. He can't force them to do all these things but he can quit this project and join other cryptocoin, no matter if it's called ClonedNxt, and contribute his ideas and code to a competitor of Nxt...


My personal opinion: This guy doesn't care about money nor how much 1 NXT will be worth, I'm 100% sure he will do what he said. I think that Nxt clone will have the same problems and decision to quit Nxt would be one of the worst decisions, but he has his own opinion.
Edit: If stakeholders don't change situation they should sell their coins before price drops below ZERO.

BCNext might think to give one more chance to all of us that didn't catch the time to become stakeholders, due to his earlier disappearance.

He should give us more time, expand the date...

[xibeijan]

thanks for you pre-trust and you are right, i am also against vaporware.
i will make an announcement tomorrow, when i have seen the api.
it's up to the community then, to decide if nxt want and need this client.

I, for one, think the community seriously needs a stable, reliable, native (non java) client that is easy to install and operate.

I'm glad your working on it.

[NxtChoice]

I have this bug to report. It's a second or third time I've seen it and I think it's easily reproduceable. This is on Debian Linux. Not sure if this is OS specific, but trying to give all details here. It may even be a known issue, not sure.

I have started NXT 0.3.18 and it began to download the blockchain. Then I tried to terminate it with CTRL+C BEFORE it fully downloaded, but it didn't want to exit, so I issued a kill -9 PID. Then I started the software again, but it turns out the blocks.nxt got corrupted, because the browser began to spit the java.nullpointer exception message. Had to stop the server, replace blocks.nxt with the blocks.nxt.bak file, and then start it again, and then it was alright.

So, why is it, that before the full block chain is downloaded and you stop the server, the server doesn't want to exit, and kill -9 PID corrupts the blocks.nxt file. There has to be a way to exit the server without corrupting the block chain even though the block chain isn't fully downloaded. Or did I have to wait longer for the server to exit after CTRL+C?

Thx for the report. I'll add a code that checks if CTRL+C was pressed during blockchain downloading.


Those who don't see blocks, please, check if ur blocks.nxt file is growing.

blocks.nxt file is growing. I think(?) I found the problem. I had to refresh the page once the entire blockchain finishes catching up in order to see the new blocks. That also seems to include when it randomly "catches up" mid-session. So anytime I catch up, I have to refresh the page. Not sure if this is true, just my theory, I will watch it some more.

So I looked some more, and the blockchain froze again when "catching up...", no matter how many times I refreshed. blocks.nxt file stopped increasing as well.

1. delete *.nxt
2. rename blo*nxt.bak blocks.nxt
3. rename tran*nxt.bak transactions.nxt
4. wait several minutes