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March 15, 2014, 12:34:03 AM
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March 15, 2014, 12:35:40 AM
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Two people died in Harkov as  the result of confrontation between ultra-right bandits (from the coup government) and townspeople. Ultra-rights have dug in a building, taking pot shots from windows and throwing Molotov-coctails. Militia is attempting to neutralise the ultra-rights.

In the meantime, unconfirmed rumours say that two British NATO transport war planes landed in Nikolaev (Southern Ukraine) with military units and weaponry.

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You can't argue with the first image, at least. It should have also included Tunis, Afghanistan, Egypt and Turkey

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 15, 2014, 01:23:34 AM
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Out of pure curiosity. What's your opinion on Kosovo?
Should it be an independent country or not?


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March 15, 2014, 03:24:45 AM
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Out of pure curiosity. What's your opinion on Kosovo?
Should it be an independent country or not?

can wee expand the discussion for the USA and UK  ? 
American colonies dint get the a OK for a referendum on secession from Britain, if the rules USA wants for Crimea separation from Ukraine apply to USA-UK they should remain a colony   

Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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March 15, 2014, 03:38:30 AM
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What if the USA "came home" and left the world alone?

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March 15, 2014, 03:38:56 AM
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Out of pure curiosity. What's your opinion on Kosovo?
Should it be an independent country or not?

can wee expand the discussion for the USA and UK  ?  
American colonies dint get the a OK for a referendum on secession from Britain, if the rules USA wants for Crimea separation from Ukraine apply to USA-UK they should remain a colony    

Yeah , let's forget Kosovo , who the ** gave them the right to separate form the Ottoman Empire. And Russia...what Russia? The Mongol empire should have it's vote also on this.
Now really....

I was wondering about the opinion the pro Russian members of this forum have on Kosovo. Let's not turn to the dark ages.
It is the right thing to have that as an independent country ?  YES or NO !

ps. Although i don't support the intervention in the Crimea by the Russians nor it's "independence" I think that all the guys roaming there in Kosovo should back their bags and go back to asia minor:).


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http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_14/Operation-Independence-Continues-Anonymous-exposes-US-invasion-plans-in-Ukraine-7517/

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Maybe we should organise a Let Crimea Vote movement, like this one for Catalonia: http://www.letcatalansvote.com/
Why should Crimea citizens worry about recognition by U.S.? It's not their business. All these sanction threats are intended to prevent the demonstration of the fact that the inhabitants of the Crimea doesn't care what the U.S. thinks of them. Because it's a sign of their weakness.

Sanctions will never work. Russia is the no.1 crude oil producer in the world. Without the Russian oil, crude price will cross $1,000, which will topple the US government.

And who is the number 3 producer of oil? =)))))
I have no idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

1    Russia   10,900,000   13.28%   2013 est.[7][8]
2    Saudi Arabia   9,900,000   12.65%   2013 est.[7][9]
3    United States   8,453,000   9.97%   2013 est.


Yes we have plenty of oil for the short and medium term.
Thanks for the reminder.

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Yes we have plenty of oil for the short and medium term.
Thanks for the reminder.

US petroleum reserves will run out in 70 days.
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Yes we have plenty of oil for the short and medium term.
Thanks for the reminder.

US petroleum reserves will run out in 70 days.

You're talking about Strategic Petroleum Reserve , already mined oil , not entire reserves and which can't even be depleted in 70 days due to pipelines limitations.


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Out of pure curiosity. What's your opinion on Kosovo?
Should it be an independent country or not?

If Kosovo conducts an open referendum and decides to be independent as a result of it, yes.

This same reasoning applies to Basque land, Catalonia, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Chechenia.

On the other hand, Yugoslavia functioned well as a multi-ethnical country before external forces started to brew ethnicity and religious conflicts. The question of Kosovo should not have been here in the first place, but the history had been written, and not in favour of people living on that land. I read a story about two Yugoslavs, one Muslim and the other of Slavic descent. They were neighbour through many years with no particular disagreements. When that whole craze started in the 90-s they ended up on the different sides, shooting at each other. Later when this interview/story was written down, they both were sitting in the same pub, retelling the events and wondering what came over them in the first place. They said it felt back then as if they completely lost their minds...

Some pre-referendum new from Crimea: a band tried to purchase rubber batons, shields and Berkut uniforms. According to the arrested members, they were to violently attack peacefully protesting Tatars tomorrow, posing as Berkut militia and sparking ethnic conflicts.

PS: I am not so much pro-Russian, as pro-human. Policies should be consistent and fair. So far Russia's conduct with regard to the whole Ukranian business has been fair, lawful  and above-board, what cannot be said about NATO/US/EU. 

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http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/14/prepare-for-war-at-any-moment-ukrainian-president-warns-after-putin-sends-8500-soldiers-270-tanks-to-border/


..shit is happening.
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 Mr. Turchynov is president of nothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turchynov

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Stupid western media. They can't even tell the truth once...

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Alt energy can help + We have HUGE amounts of oil in several states.

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The referendum will start within a few hours time. Latest opinion polls shows ethnic Russians supporting it by 85%, ethnic Ukrainians by 65% and Muslims by 15% (58%, 25% and 13% respectively of the population).
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Ukraine denounces ‘invasion’ by Russian forces on eve of Crimea’s referendum

KIEV, Ukraine — Russia’s military staged a provocative new act of aggression Saturday, occupying a natural gas distribution center and village on a strip of Ukrainian land near the Crimean Peninsula and prompting Kiev’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs to denounce “a military invasion by Russia.”

The incident marked the first face-to-face standoff between the Ukrainian and Russian militaries outside the Crimean Peninsula, suggesting that Moscow is testing the will of Kiev amid fears of further Russian incursions in eastern and southern Ukraine. The move comes on the eve of a vote in Crimea on whether the residents there want to break away from Ukraine and join Russia.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/tensions-mount-as-crimea-prepares-for-referendum/2014/03/15/a384c36a-ac40-11e3-a06a-e3230a43d6cb_story.html

Russian troops in four helicopter gunships and three armored combat vehicles descended on the natural gas facility near the village of Strilkove about 1:30 p.m. local time, according to Ukrainian officials. The Russians said they had seized the site out of fears it would be targeted by “terrorists,” according to a Ukrainian Defense Ministry official who spoke on the condition of anonymity.


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