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$100 per H/m is a bargain for CPU mining. $20 per H/m is for GPU mining. It is also 5X more efficient than CPU mining with the same capital cost.
GPU mining is 4 or more times more energy efficient than CPU mining.
This is not necessary true. Who is still doing CPU mining today? laptop users, the power consumption is <=90w from the wall, considering GPU users at least 250W for one. To be fair, neither cpu nor gpu can overwhelm each other. I was talking about the unit rate for watts consumed per h/m generated. Laptops consume exceptionally less power and shouldn't really be used for computing because they are designed for mobility. They also have a substantially low mining rate. from comparison chart, lots of laptop cpu looks ok. Intel i7-3612QM 2.10Ghz : 2.17 hs/min 8 thread i7 3610qm - 2,4 (8 thread) i7-3630QM : 2.48 now, to other cpu users, like me, i still use p4 1.7, lga775 dual core and they all works fine. there is a big upgrade cost. but mining is a money game one way or another. when I was renting droplet hashing at 0.26, others were renting 32 Xeon cores from amazon, what is the difference.
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PyroTekNeks
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January 01, 2014, 07:02:50 AM |
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$100 per H/m is a bargain for CPU mining. $20 per H/m is for GPU mining. It is also 5X more efficient than CPU mining with the same capital cost.
GPU mining is 4 or more times more energy efficient than CPU mining.
This is not necessary true. Who is still doing CPU mining today? laptop users, the power consumption is <=90w from the wall, considering GPU users at least 250W for one. To be fair, neither cpu nor gpu can overwhelm each other. I was talking about the unit rate for watts consumed per h/m generated. Laptops consume exceptionally less power and shouldn't really be used for computing because they are designed for mobility. They also have a substantially low mining rate. from comparison chart, lots of laptop cpu looks ok. Intel i7-3612QM 2.10Ghz : 2.17 hs/min 8 thread i7 3610qm - 2,4 (8 thread) i7-3630QM : 2.48 It's not necessarily the fact that they don't put out enough working power...it's the fact that cooling is always a problem. Laptops tend to get HOT. Even the battery. It puts a lot of stress on the system.
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January 01, 2014, 02:01:59 PM |
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does anyone on here know what should be higher clock speed or memory when GPU mining this coin
I'm looking to maximze the potential of the GPU
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agran
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January 01, 2014, 10:49:11 PM |
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Delinquency
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January 02, 2014, 01:54:31 AM Last edit: January 02, 2014, 02:22:28 AM by Delinquency |
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Once GPU miners are done with MMC, profitability will be 9.6% of capital costs for CPU's.
Last night I calculated GPU R9 280x profitability to be 150% per month of costs. Now it is currently 136.5%. At this rate, I expect profitability to drop even lower for all MMC miners.
136.5% profit = $573 for $420 invested in the current month, all things remaining the same.
The market will find equilibrium at around 45% GPU profitability compared to if you had invested to mine litecoins (scrypt).
When MMC finds equilibrium with the coin market: $420 GPU hardware costs should vary profits at $189 per month. -$420 in CPU hardware costs accordingly should only profit miners at $40 per month (just around or below electricity costs)
Most importantly, CPU miners that actually do invest in new CPU's should find profitability drop to only 9.6% of hardware costs over a longer period of time.
Let's see how the coin plays out. Costs for GPU hardware are higher so for the marginalized, the difficulty should rise with smaller momentum at this level. --fixed some #'s
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Snard
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January 02, 2014, 02:03:38 AM |
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Bug in the explorer. Will get it fixed.
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January 02, 2014, 02:04:21 AM |
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Is there any info out there on the GPU mining of MMC? I know reorder posted about it in another topic, but it seems that there are enough pools offering it now that the source is most likely released somewhere.
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badbonez
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January 02, 2014, 02:08:32 AM |
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Once GPU miners are done with MMC, profitability will be 5.8% of capital costs for CPU's.
Last night I calculated GPU R9 280x profitability to be 150% per month of costs. Now it is currently 138%. At this rate, I expect profitability to drop even lower for all MMC miners.
138% profit = $580 for $420 invested in the current month, all things remaining the same.
The market will find equilibrium at around 30% GPU profitability compared to if you had invested to mine litecoins (scrypt).
When MMC finds equilibrium with the coin market: $420 GPU hardware costs should vary at $126 per month. -$420 in CPU hardware costs accordingly should only profit miners at $26 per month (just around or below electricity costs)
Most importantly, CPU miners that actually do invest in new CPU's should find profitability drop to only 6% of hardware costs over a longer period of time.
Let's see how the coin plays out. Costs for GPU hardware are higher so for the marginalized, the difficulty should rise with smaller momentum at this level.
Nice analysis! (I don't understand any of it. ) - Care to translate to practicalities? I.e., Buy a card or not?
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Delinquency
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January 02, 2014, 02:18:55 AM |
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Buy a card to pay it off in about 1.5 months ^.^ Buy a cpu to pay for its electricity costs I fixed the numbers so they make more sense...
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badbonez
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January 02, 2014, 02:22:01 AM |
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Is there any info out there on the GPU mining of MMC? I know reorder posted about it in another topic, but it seems that there are enough pools offering it now that the source is most likely released somewhere.
What other pools offer GPU mining?
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MMC: MQ4EA85nnZwytrcqx9rJSpDWVTSXaxfqmc EAC: eTGWiLDpSvZx6GXyMqbY61bTJd28chc9Rt
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Delinquency
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January 02, 2014, 02:24:21 AM |
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Is there any info out there on the GPU mining of MMC? I know reorder posted about it in another topic, but it seems that there are enough pools offering it now that the source is most likely released somewhere.
What other pools offer GPU mining? I suggested they release the source for solo miner farms but only one pool is available. I'm getting all rejects with my GPU anyway.
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badbonez
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January 02, 2014, 02:29:40 AM |
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Buy a card to pay it off in about 1.5 months ^.^ Buy a cpu to pay for its electricity costs I fixed the numbers so they make more sense... So a 280x will pay for itself and then profit after 1.5 months, while a new CPU will only cover the costs of electricity? Let me just ask this way: I have ordered a 280x and I also mine with my CPU (~3.5 h/m) plus I have a R9 270 (~10hpm). Profit or not? All I'm looking for is to cover expenses and eventually pay off equipment. I'm not necessarily looking for a short-term dump. (Just need to be able to tell the wife that it's at least paying for itself. ) And thanks!
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MMC: MQ4EA85nnZwytrcqx9rJSpDWVTSXaxfqmc EAC: eTGWiLDpSvZx6GXyMqbY61bTJd28chc9Rt
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badbonez
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January 02, 2014, 02:31:49 AM |
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Is there any info out there on the GPU mining of MMC? I know reorder posted about it in another topic, but it seems that there are enough pools offering it now that the source is most likely released somewhere.
What other pools offer GPU mining? I suggested they release the source for solo miner farms but only one pool is available. I'm getting all rejects with my GPU anyway. my 270 is at A/R/T = 433/30/37 A = accepted R = rejected T = timeout? Am I reading that right? Is that good or too many rejects?
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MMC: MQ4EA85nnZwytrcqx9rJSpDWVTSXaxfqmc EAC: eTGWiLDpSvZx6GXyMqbY61bTJd28chc9Rt
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Delinquency
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January 02, 2014, 02:40:47 AM |
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Buy a card to pay it off in about 1.5 months ^.^ Buy a cpu to pay for its electricity costs I fixed the numbers so they make more sense... So a 280x will pay for itself and then profit after 1.5 months, while a new CPU will only cover the costs of electricity? Let me just ask this way: I have ordered a 280x and I also mine with my CPU (~3.5 h/m) plus I have a R9 270 (~10hpm). Profit or not? All I'm looking for is to cover expenses and eventually pay off equipment. I'm not necessarily looking for a short-term dump. (Just need to be able to tell the wife that it's at least paying for itself. ) And thanks! profit.
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January 02, 2014, 05:13:39 AM |
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Is there any info out there on the GPU mining of MMC? I know reorder posted about it in another topic, but it seems that there are enough pools offering it now that the source is most likely released somewhere.
What other pools offer GPU mining? I suggested they release the source for solo miner farms but only one pool is available. I'm getting all rejects with my GPU anyway. my 270 is at A/R/T = 433/30/37 A = accepted R = rejected T = timeout? Am I reading that right? Is that good or too many rejects? Normal %86 accept %6 reject %8 timeout
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January 02, 2014, 05:41:50 AM Last edit: January 02, 2014, 06:40:59 AM by SpeedDemon13 |
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Is there any info out there on the GPU mining of MMC? I know reorder posted about it in another topic, but it seems that there are enough pools offering it now that the source is most likely released somewhere.
What other pools offer GPU mining? I suggested they release the source for solo miner farms but only one pool is available. I'm getting all rejects with my GPU anyway. I'm getting ZERO accepted with my HD 6970 2GB card at 14~15 hpm. Seems like I'm never able to mine this damn coin, cpu and/or gpu...LMFAO!!! Is there any info out there on the GPU mining of MMC? I know reorder posted about it in another topic, but it seems that there are enough pools offering it now that the source is most likely released somewhere.
What other pools offer GPU mining? I suggested they release the source for solo miner farms but only one pool is available. I'm getting all rejects with my GPU anyway. my 270 is at A/R/T = 433/30/37 A = accepted R = rejected T = timeout? Am I reading that right? Is that good or too many rejects? Normal %86 accept %6 reject %8 timeout At least your mining, I take half my speed just to mine....LOL More likely either an architecture issue with the harware and/or software related. But, I'm leaning towards software, as the miner might be optimized for HD 7000's series and not the HD 5000's or HD 6000's. I would assume that a miner would work with the two older generation cards since they all share similar drivers and/or openGL.
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January 02, 2014, 06:36:45 AM |
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I'm getting ZERO accepted with my HD 6970 2GB card at 14~15 hpm. Seems like I'm never able to mine this damn coin, cpu and/or gpu...LMFAO!!!
I noticed that Reorder, the author of the GPU miner, has said there is a problem with the 6xxxx series cards. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1784.msg21095#msg21095I think he's working on it....
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MMC: MQ4EA85nnZwytrcqx9rJSpDWVTSXaxfqmc EAC: eTGWiLDpSvZx6GXyMqbY61bTJd28chc9Rt
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SpeedDemon13
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January 02, 2014, 06:43:23 AM |
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I'm getting ZERO accepted with my HD 6970 2GB card at 14~15 hpm. Seems like I'm never able to mine this damn coin, cpu and/or gpu...LMFAO!!!
I noticed that Reorder, the author of the GPU miner, has said there is a problem with the 6xxxx series cards. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1784.msg21095#msg21095I think he's working on it.... Would be great. Now I'm getting crazy numbers now when I execute it, 280~400 hpm with continuous rejects...LOL I have a feeling it's software related and just need a miner optimized for HD 5000 and HD 6000 series.
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January 02, 2014, 08:16:37 AM |
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happy new year to you too!
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Newmine
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January 02, 2014, 05:52:41 PM |
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per wallet? it seems you don't even grasp the basics of what a wallet is. that's not possible. even if it was - you'd make multiple wallets to manipulate the votes. doesn't change anything.
a 30 minute voting windows is also great for a decentralized product. what timezone do you propose?
you just troll around without offering good alternatives. if you don't like the idea of honoring people for dedicated work on a coin, why do you even bother with the only one out there which makes use of this concept? what do you think where it's current value comes from? because it's a new idea and a promising concept, if the the jobs are done well! and i think they are (while there's still room to improve, but again, where are the better candidates?)
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1870.0Looks like you shouldn't have opened your mouth. Anyway, I gave no problem paying people for what they do or for their efforts. It's the flawed system and the conflict of interest that exist with the Dev and the created positions that I have a problem with. Unfortunately for me, I did not realize this until a couple weeks mining putting in my own effort, time and money. Take a look at this address, the CEO's number one voter, M9rJudKWdiE4dQd2K6DD9bLtkviKwnhNZG. M9rJudKWdiE4dQd2K6DD9bLtkviKwnhNZG looks like it received 38,644 coins from MVTEoEoXmYzFydRfg5uNJRewt9tZ329fAN On Christmas. Merry Christmas! MVTEoEoXmYzFydRfg5uNJRewt9tZ329fAN Received the 38,644 coins in the 1st block. This address is also the same address used by FreeTrade when promoting the Memorycoin Foundation. Google the address and you will see posts of FreeTrade urging people to vote for the address during memorycoin 1.0. It's not hard to imagine who is in control of those coins. Any guesses? Its this crap and then weighting the vote that gets me. Each position has earned close to 15k coins so far. If we are not there yet, very soon we be at a point were you will never be able to vote him out. As long as he sucked enough miners in there will be incentive for people to make the coin appreciate if they want their investments to flourish regardless of what the CEO, CMO, CTO etc. does, which could end up being nothing.
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