Re: Mining pools list

[kinlo]

I must say that this information is volatile and not relevant for a global pool list.  It is valid and good information to have, and I'm happy to contribute to it, but perhaps we should make a separate post with these details, not try to incorporate this in the main list.

[organofcorti]

I must say that this information is volatile and not relevant for a global pool list.  It is valid and good information to have, and I'm happy to contribute to it, but perhaps we should make a separate post with these details, not try to incorporate this in the main list.

That's the idea, a separate list and hopefully stickied. I'm not keen to have anything too changeable in the main mining pools list - bbcode tables are terrible things to edit.

[organofcorti]

Updated. Please post any corrections or errors.

[doublec]

Updated. Please post any corrections or errors.

Just a small update for bitparking. It stopped paying orphans today so the "Pay Orphans" column should be "No".

[organofcorti]

Updated. Please post any corrections or errors.

Just a small update for bitparking. It stopped paying orphans today so the "Pay Orphans" column should be "No".

Fixed - thanks for letting me know.

[organofcorti]

Updated. Please post any corrections or errors.

[adara]

I must say that this information is volatile and not relevant for a global pool list.  It is valid and good information to have, and I'm happy to contribute to it, but perhaps we should make a separate post with these details, not try to incorporate this in the main list.

Why not being open and provide all the data so that users are informed? It seems that the data requested will be usefull for the community.

[organofcorti]

I must say that this information is volatile and not relevant for a global pool list.  It is valid and good information to have, and I'm happy to contribute to it, but perhaps we should make a separate post with these details, not try to incorporate this in the main list.

Why not being open and provide all the data so that users are informed? It seems that the data requested will be usefull for the community.

The Mining List already has a lot of data in it - putting in another column means removing another one, and I think they're all useful.

Also, editing the bbcode tables is a hassle. It's easy to break them, and this sort of data is apt to change regularly. It would be better for this data to  be in a separate thread, so that the Mining Pools list is not adversely affected. Plus I don't really have time.

If you want to try your hand at it, I'll be happy to give any advice I can.

[adara]

I must say that this information is volatile and not relevant for a global pool list.  It is valid and good information to have, and I'm happy to contribute to it, but perhaps we should make a separate post with these details, not try to incorporate this in the main list.

Why not being open and provide all the data so that users are informed? It seems that the data requested will be usefull for the community.

The Mining List already has a lot of data in it - putting in another column means removing another one, and I think they're all useful.

Also, editing the bbcode tables is a hassle. It's easy to break them, and this sort of data is apt to change regularly. It would be better for this data to  be in a separate thread, so that the Mining Pools list is not adversely affected. Plus I don't really have time.

If you want to try your hand at it, I'll be happy to give any advice I can.

Seems like a great idea to have this data in a separate thread. It will be nice also that the pool operators provide it so that the community can benefit from it.

[bitcoindaddy]

Is this really true?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54673.msg2439241#msg2439241

One of the problem with 50BTC is the rounding of the payout per share.  Before, when the difficulty was lower, and earned 500+ Satoshi per shares (ahh, anyone remember those days!), it wasn't making such a difference.  But now, with difficulty of ~15,605,633, you see that 50BTC gives a payout per share of 155 Satoshi, when in reality it should be ~155.39 Satoshi.  That mean you're letting away an extra 0.25% per share.  That is basically equivalent to a fee of approx 3.25%.  And it's the same for all per-share difficulty.  Whatever you set it to, the payout is a multiple of the base difficulty.

Do some or all PPS pools have higher than expected fees because of rounding errors?

[eleuthria]

Is this really true?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54673.msg2439241#msg2439241

One of the problem with 50BTC is the rounding of the payout per share.  Before, when the difficulty was lower, and earned 500+ Satoshi per shares (ahh, anyone remember those days!), it wasn't making such a difference.  But now, with difficulty of ~15,605,633, you see that 50BTC gives a payout per share of 155 Satoshi, when in reality it should be ~155.39 Satoshi.  That mean you're letting away an extra 0.25% per share.  That is basically equivalent to a fee of approx 3.25%.  And it's the same for all per-share difficulty.  Whatever you set it to, the payout is a multiple of the base difficulty.

Do some or all PPS pools have higher than expected fees because of rounding errors?

All pools require rounding at some point in the process.  It depends on which point in the process and how deep they go into decimals for how that affects users.

BTC Guild PPS rounds down at the 16th decimal place for display, and the satoshi level when sending a payout (required obviously).  However, all shares are stored in a way that the payout amounts are calculated live without rounding until the final number.  This means there is no rounding done on individual share payout rates, so instead of losing out on rounding per-share, you will never be behind a full satoshi in total.

BTC Guild PPLNS method does require rounding, which is rounded DOWN at the 14th decimal place.

[eleuthria]

Hi organofcorti,
  Now that it's live, can you please update BTCGuildPPLNS to 'Yes' for Merged Mining?

  Thanks!

[organofcorti]

Hi organofcorti,
  Now that it's live, can you please update BTCGuildPPLNS to 'Yes' for Merged Mining?

  Thanks!

Done!

[GaiusMaximus]

what would be the first steps to start your own mining pool?

[organofcorti]

Updated. Please post any corrections or errors.

what would be the first steps to start your own mining pool?

This is a thread for miners and pool ops to ask and answer questions abut mining related issues. It might be best to post a new topic.

[doublec]

Bitparking is now "no fee" on DGM. This is to compensate for the extended time it's taking to implement paying out transaction fees to miners.

[luffy]

50BTC has user define diff from 1 to 64. i 've just made a worker there

[Balthazar]

pool.itzod.ru sets diff automatically to value from 2 to 128 with x2 steps.

[organofcorti]

Thanks everyone! I've updated Bitparking, 50BTC and Itzod.

[spiccioli]

organofcorti,

HHTT pays half of block fees to the miner that finds the block and keeps the other half for itself.

spiccioli