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March 31, 2015, 07:13:46 PM
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BEWARE. My account was compromised!

I just happened to catch it but an unauthorized account to account transfer was made from my account to another in the amount of 6 btc. 

I caught this less than 30 min after it happened. I got on chat and was told he/she couldnt do anything about it and to send a support ticket, which i did.

I'm currently awaiting a response but want to put this out there now since it just happened less than 30 min ago according to my account history.

Nobody has access to this account but me.


That's a serious issue
are you sure that your password is unique for Betcoin

cause I heard that there are scam poker rooms that use their users information to access their accounts in other sites

Thank you everyone for the questions and assistance. 

We certainly take all matters such as this very seriously and are reviewing the details. Is there anything else at issue with your account? Have you ever sent a player an account2account transfer in the past?

Also, when you say this: "Whoever was able to transfer, internally or externally, did so within 30 min of this posting." are you stating that the account2account transfer happened after you posted a message about your account being compromised?  As we stated in our original ticket response to you the funds were immediately frozen.  We look forward to your responses. 

No, I'm saying i logged in to make a bet today.  4 minutes after I made that bet my account balance was 6 btc lower.  By sheer coincidence I had noticed then and then posted immediately.  The reason I did that is so that you couldnt accuse me of anything fraudulent since I was bringing it to your attention immediately.  Moreover, there was ANOTHER 5.2 btc transferred on 3/24 which i just noticed.  What the hell is going on?  I have never, not even once, sent anyone a transfer to your site.  

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March 31, 2015, 07:16:51 PM
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The plot thickens.  

Another 5200 was transferred on 3/24 to the same guy.  I never transferred that one either.

Betcoin is chatting with me over their system but they havent provided any insight as to why this has happened.

I'm certain they'll make this right because i never initiated ANY of these.



Are you saying that you didn't notice that you had 5 coins missing out of your account for an entire week?

Thats exactly what I'm saying.  I had approx 30 coins in the account and have been playing here and there.  I assumed I might have lost that money but apparently I didnt.  I seldom log into the account, but I did not notice. 

That was exactly a week ago today and the money was transferred to the same person. 

No one has access to these credentials and i have never heard of this person before.  Why on earth would I bring this up now if I intended on transferring to anyone?  I'd like to see the IP these were transferred from but i'm sure that could be doctored.  Again, i have NEVER transferred bitcoins to anyone.
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March 31, 2015, 07:20:46 PM
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Thats exactly what I'm saying.  I had approx 30 coins in the account and have been playing here and there.  I assumed I might have lost that money but apparently I didnt.  I seldom log into the account, but I did not notice. 

That was exactly a week ago today and the money was transferred to the same person. 

No one has access to these credentials and i have never heard of this person before.  Why on earth would I bring this up now if I intended on transferring to anyone?  I'd like to see the IP these were transferred from but i'm sure that could be doctored.  Again, i have NEVER transferred bitcoins to anyone.


What have you been playing on betcoin?

Can you take a screenshot of the transfer history and post it here?

Have you ever logged into your account on any other device other than the one you are currently on?
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March 31, 2015, 07:26:15 PM
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I am currently trying to sort this out with them on chat.

I remain hopeful they will see I never transferred anything before I start posting screenshots and the like on here.

I'm terribly frustrated. 

It appears that you can just transfer to another account without the use of a password (I just looked at the screen)--that seems preposterous to me.
 

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boobsblock, we are certainly treating this matter very seriously.  We have frozen the btc and frozen the account the btc was sent to as well as messaged the player who has not responded.

Also, this issue has never happened at Betcoin to date, but has now happened to you with the withdrawal issue mentioned above and at several other websites that you have addressed publicly.  Can you explain how this has also happened to you at other sites before?

I had my entire balance -- approx 45 btc -- withdrawn just now, without notice or approval by me.  I sent in a message to support but have no clue what is going on.  I didnt authorize those transactions at all and have kept all of my credentials very secure.

what is going on?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355081.msg4164139#msg4164139

It turns out my account was compromised and someone other than me put approximately 40 btc into play.  None of the events started yet and staketbtc is investigating the matter.

This is extremely disconcerting but I'm confident stakebtc will sort this mess out.

I am waiting on an email from them and will report back once its been resolved.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=420744.msg5261473#msg5261473

We should also note that you made a claim that your balance at Betcoin was compromised as well in the past.  We take these matters very seriously and are looking to get this solved as fast as possible for you. 

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So in the past year and a half, boosblock has claimed to have ~100BTC fraudulently bet/transferred from his accounts on three different sites?
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March 31, 2015, 08:26:50 PM
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So in the past year and a half, boosblock has claimed to have ~100BTC fraudulently bet/transferred from his accounts on three different sites?

Sigh.

Betcoin just wants to post things without reading them through. 

Stakebtc stole my money! They went offline the day they made those wagers. How can you cite that as an example.  All that proves is what I suspected initially: they scammed me and other players out of coins! 

See here:
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/is-stakebtc-latest-bitcoin-scam-sportsbook-6121/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488895.0
http://news.rouletters.com/scam-sportsbook-stakebtc-com-disappears-0002042.html


Nitrogen had a breach in their system which they acknowledged as i will post the emails here.  Nitrogen also made the matter right and caught their mistake, owned up to it, and apologized.  No money was lost by either party and I continue to play there today and maintain a sizable balance.

Here were the emails which I exchanged with them at the time which demonstrate their ability to own up to a mistake and not just point fingers.
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We can confirm that the new account that you created matches the IP when you originally created your dundee account.

We have been running nitrogensports.com for over a year, and the .EU website (using the same security system) for a few weeks, and have had NO incidents like this.

The logs show that someone logged into your account from another IP using the correct username and password. This is worrisome, as usernames are anonymous as well.

Several things trigger manual reviews of withdraws including a large wd and a changing IP.

If you reply to this email with a bitcoin address we can send you your funds, as i am sure that is what is on your mind the most.

We are going to investigate further to see if we can determine what the root cause was.

- Jacob

Here is the transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/158a48b5151572d8c34426d84b2246581f2667ec6e24d38ae0fc4eb4a36f6372

Right now, we want to leave the account how it is so our tech team can investigate.

We have changed your password to: XXXXXXXXXX

We see that you have XXXXXX in play, and will make sure these funds stay safe.

We will let you know when we have more information on this incident.

Again, we feel terrible. We have no idea right now what could have caused this, but we are going to work our hardest to figure out the root cause.


Thanks,

Jacob


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For betcoin to come in here and make half baked claims about my history without reviewing the facts is very worriesom.  Perhaps I shouldnt have been so quick to post on the forum but I did so so that it was documented within minutes of the unauthorized transfer.  Much in the same way I posted what those thieves at stakebtc did when they made wagers and tried to free roll me and went offline not even 12 hours later. 

It is my fault for not noticing the other 5.2 btc which were missing last week, but I assumed my funds were secure.  I guess they're not.
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March 31, 2015, 08:37:12 PM
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Stakebtc stole my money!

I read that entire thread and saw that.  Obviously that's horrible and I'm sorry that you lost those coins.  But I'm talking about the claim that you made while they were still "up". 


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Nitrogen had a breach in their system which they acknowledged as i will post the emails here. 

That "email" you posted (screenshots are your friend) doesn't show acknowledgement of a problem on their end.  They said that someone logged into your account from a different IP.  That's the same thing you said happened on Stakebtc and the same thing you said happened here today.

Again, you've claimed that the exact same thing happened three different times across three different gambling sites over the past year and a half.  This is worrisome.  This shows, to me, either malicious activity on your part (which wouldn't make sense since it seems like you are/were just asking for bets/xfers back) or that your machine(s) are not as secure as you think.  This is a serious problem!

Seriously, what makes more sense?  That three different sites all have/had major massive security breaches that ONLY affected you...or that you have a keylogger on your computer/someone in your house makes bets while you are asleep/you get drunk and make bets and then wake up and say "shit I shouldn't have done that"?

Also, since you seem more open to answering questions now (this is good, it gets to the solution faster):

What have you been playing on betcoin?

Can you take a screenshot of the transfer history and post it here?

Have you ever logged into your account on any other device other than the one you are currently on?
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March 31, 2015, 08:56:11 PM
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Stakebtc stole my money!

I read that entire thread and saw that.  Obviously that's horrible and I'm sorry that you lost those coins.  But I'm talking about the claim that you made while they were still "up". 


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Nitrogen had a breach in their system which they acknowledged as i will post the emails here. 

That "email" you posted (screenshots are your friend) doesn't show acknowledgement of a problem on their end.  They said that someone logged into your account from a different IP.  That's the same thing you said happened on Stakebtc and the same thing you said happened here today.

Again, you've claimed that the exact same thing happened three different times across three different gambling sites over the past year and a half.  This is worrisome.  This shows, to me, either malicious activity on your part (which wouldn't make sense since it seems like you are/were just asking for bets/xfers back) or that your machine(s) are not as secure as you think.  This is a serious problem!

Seriously, what makes more sense?  That three different sites all have/had major massive security breaches that ONLY affected you...or that you have a keylogger on your computer/someone in your house makes bets while you are asleep/you get drunk and make bets and then wake up and say "shit I shouldn't have done that"?

Also, since you seem more open to answering questions now (this is good, it gets to the solution faster):

What have you been playing on betcoin?

Can you take a screenshot of the transfer history and post it here?

Have you ever logged into your account on any other device other than the one you are currently on?

You need to read the stakebtc thread.  THEY lied about the IP issue.  THEY made the bets, free rolled me and then went offline hours later.  You're correct, nitrogen never admitted they were directly at fault, but they acknowledged I didnt make the transfer request from the IP i normally use and their security team caught this and returned the funds.   My machine is as secure as the antivirus software tells me it is.  So now we're talking about two sites: nitrogen and betcoin.  Betcoin still hasnt stated the transfers originated from my IP.  As soon as nitrogen introduced 2FA i never had an issue. 

I never claimed I didnt make bets except in the case of stakebtc, which i never did. Again, they were a scam and went offline not even 12 hours later after those fake bets were made by them. 

I have been seldom playing on betcoin.  Since the suberbowl I have played some NBA here and there but thats it.  Yes, I believe I have logged into my account from my phone before and I from a hotel in las vegas.  I never had any issues though until right now. 

I just changed my password at betcoin.

I dont know what the transfer history is going to prove, but i'll try and post it.



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March 31, 2015, 09:00:17 PM
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More importantly, I think the owners need to ask themselves what I'm possibly trying to get out of this?  My only mistake was not noticing the 5.2 btc which were fraudulently transferred on 3-24.  When i logged in the account looked light but since i hadnt bet much since the SB, I wasnt sure.  Today I noticed it immediately because i had made two bets within 4 min my balance dropped 6 bitcoins and I did nothing to cause that.

Also, let me clarify, I wasnt even aware these account transfers were possible until today.  As anyone who plays at betcoin can attest to, the account history portion of the website is spotty at best.  They have changed their interface numerous times and it was never comprehensive until recently. 

This entire situation has left me frustrated. 
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More importantly, I think the owners need to ask themselves what I'm possibly trying to get out of this? 

My first thought is that you may have sold this individual chips (either for cash or for xfers on another site) and are trying to 'charge back' as it were.  But, if you are being truthful, it seems like you have a vulnerability.  As you have claimed that this has happened three times in a year and a half, it should be pretty evident to you that this is the case.  It may be a computer situation (someone put something on your computer a while back) or it may be a situation where someone in your home is accessing your computer behind your back.  I've seen situations where both have happened countless times in the online poker/sportsbetting community. 

If I were you, the first thing I would do is buy a secure computer to gamble with.  If you are gambling with five figure amounts, this is paramount.  Don't surf the web on it, don't download skype onto it, only use it to place your bets. 
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April 01, 2015, 03:49:42 AM
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More importantly, I think the owners need to ask themselves what I'm possibly trying to get out of this?  My only mistake was not noticing the 5.2 btc which were fraudulently transferred on 3-24.  When i logged in the account looked light but since i hadnt bet much since the SB, I wasnt sure.  Today I noticed it immediately because i had made two bets within 4 min my balance dropped 6 bitcoins and I did nothing to cause that.

Also, let me clarify, I wasnt even aware these account transfers were possible until today.  As anyone who plays at betcoin can attest to, the account history portion of the website is spotty at best.  They have changed their interface numerous times and it was never comprehensive until recently. 

This entire situation has left me frustrated. 

how did they confirm the cashout in your email? and why wouldnt they just take all the coins the first time kinda weird
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April 01, 2015, 04:49:15 AM
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LOL! This guys story is fishy in a dozen ways that all of you have pointed out. Let him handle it with support in private and not waste everyone's time with his tall tales in this thread. Guy is Bronze II rank yet keeps $8,000 in his account, has had problems with 3 betting sites in total, gets hacked by someone who doesn't steal all of the coins and doesn't choose to withdraw the coins immediately. This guy is either lying, up to something unsavory or incompetent. (Edit: okay maybe that last statement was a bit harsh, but as was said above: If you're getting hacked regularly for thousands of dollars you should probably take a look at how you're handling your financial security instead of getting flustered on obscure message boards.)

One thing that should be taken from this story though: Betcoin should require a confirmation e-mail for player-to-player transfers. Or require a confirmation e-mail for player-to-player transfers over a certain amount and an e-mail when more than x-number of transfers are placed in a day.  Requiring a password as suggested above wouldn't do anything if your account was already hacked, but a confirmation e-mail as is required for withdrawals would be useful. As long as you don't use the same password for e-mail and betcoin of course  Roll Eyes

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April 01, 2015, 09:35:47 AM
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I am sure betcoin doesnt have anything to do with this issue.
If they wanted to just take all your money they would have bigger fishes to fry then just someone with 8 or 10 thousand usd in their account.
Also a very valid question.
How is this scammer able to take your money out in batches or go into your email to accept the transfer
Its either someone very close to you or someone with access to everything which can only be you.

Regardless betcoin shouldnt care about this as this is an external matter. If someone from thier company is doing this then its a different story but i hardly doubt that.

Good luck with busting the scam

Regards

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April 02, 2015, 02:04:23 AM
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Thanks everyone for the comments.  We really do work hard to take care of everyone as quickly as possible and we are expanding support.  We spend a great deal of time researching claims that are false, but we take every inquiry very seriously. 

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April 02, 2015, 02:04:49 AM
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hi betcoinpoker,

how do you accumulate betcoin points in poker? the points you see in players club.

Betcoin.ag Announces New VIP Player's Club & BONUS!

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We are pleased to announce the Betcoin.ag VIP Player's Club providing you with the most rewards in the industry and a Daily SURPRISE BOX based on your level. Your rewards earn you many benefits at Betcoin and your play in the casino, sportsbook and poker room all increases your level. The VIP Player's Club can be found here: www.betcoin.ag/vip

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Betcoin.ag will feature Betcoin Poker players on Betcoin.ag/tv streaming live. To celebrate the announcement of Betcoin TV we will also host a 10 BTC Freeroll this Sunday April 5, 2015.

This is the beginning of Betcoin TV which will expand into tournaments with announcers and featured programs as well as archived segments for viewing later.

The million dollar tournament will follow on Sunday April 12, 2015. We welcome any thoughts and feedback anytime.






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April 02, 2015, 01:22:27 PM
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The best just get better  Grin Grin

Good luck to all betcoiners  streaming good shows
I'm really sure that our players will give the community a good pack of useful information and they will help others to play good

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The best just get better  Grin Grin

Good luck to all betcoiners  streaming good shows
I'm really sure that our players will give the community a good pack of useful information and they will help others to play good



We appreciate the support.  Betcoin Poker's UncleChau finished in 4th place in the Big 10 100 BTC ($25,000) netting 7.8 BTC ($1,937.50) and providing a wealth of knowledge about how to play poker and win these tournaments in the process.  It was a great stream and very exciting to watch as well as interactive. 

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nice event o.o
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