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July 27, 2015, 04:18:49 PM |
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I am selling my Betcoin Account that is currently at Silver II VIP @ 23.3% rakeback PLUS 50% from XiaoXiao. Xiao can confirm I am tracked to him.
Price is 1.75 btc's and you are getting 73.3% Rakeback and growing!
What can u get from daily box? How many status, betcoin points, casino bonus here? Silver II account is worth closer to .o175 btc... Surprise box is worth literally less than 25 cents a day. Are you serious? I am bronze II, I have completed casino bonus with 50X rollover twice, I got 33 chips and 60 chips from 2 casino bonuses. Those things were happened in this month, I have been bronze II since 7th of July. So only 20 days I have earned 20+ USD, it is average 1 USD per day, I am just a Bronze II, I guess silver II can get average 3-5 USD per day. I am pretty sure that if I get more amount of casino bonus, I will turn the bonus to the real money more often, cause the key of slots is big bankroll and luck, if I get lucky and more bonus on slots, I can easily complete 50X rollover and be rich. I'm Silver 1, I usually get a casino bonus every 3 or 4 days for 5-10 chips. The chance of clearing a bonus with 50x rollover is somewhere around 0.6% The actual value of a 10 chip casino bonus is worth less than half of one chip. The best surprise box I ever got was 7 real chips.
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fox19891989
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July 27, 2015, 04:33:39 PM |
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I am selling my Betcoin Account that is currently at Silver II VIP @ 23.3% rakeback PLUS 50% from XiaoXiao. Xiao can confirm I am tracked to him.
Price is 1.75 btc's and you are getting 73.3% Rakeback and growing!
What can u get from daily box? How many status, betcoin points, casino bonus here? Silver II account is worth closer to .o175 btc... Surprise box is worth literally less than 25 cents a day. Are you serious? I am bronze II, I have completed casino bonus with 50X rollover twice, I got 33 chips and 60 chips from 2 casino bonuses. Those things were happened in this month, I have been bronze II since 7th of July. So only 20 days I have earned 20+ USD, it is average 1 USD per day, I am just a Bronze II, I guess silver II can get average 3-5 USD per day. I am pretty sure that if I get more amount of casino bonus, I will turn the bonus to the real money more often, cause the key of slots is big bankroll and luck, if I get lucky and more bonus on slots, I can easily complete 50X rollover and be rich. I'm Silver 1, I usually get a casino bonus every 3 or 4 days for 5-10 chips. The chance of clearing a bonus with 50x rollover is somewhere around 0.6% The actual value of a 10 chip casino bonus is worth less than half of one chip. The best surprise box I ever got was 7 real chips. It seems that I am luckier than you, I have received about 7-10 times of bonus, but I could cash out twice. Maybe my strategy is better than yours. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Actually I did research and compare those slots, that's why I have higher chance to unlock 50X rollover bonus(my bonus is only 1.5-2.9 chips)
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July 27, 2015, 05:56:44 PM |
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i have cleared the casino bonus from the surprise box 3 times now for about 1400 chips
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fox19891989
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July 27, 2015, 06:08:54 PM |
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i have cleared the casino bonus from the surprise box 3 times now for about 1400 chips
Wow, you are real gamble guru, what's your vip level here? And IMO 3 times for 1400 total chips are very very awesome, I have done twice but only have won 90 chips. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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July 27, 2015, 06:32:33 PM |
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i have cleared the casino bonus from the surprise box 3 times now for about 1400 chips
Wow, you are real gamble guru, what's your vip level here? And IMO 3 times for 1400 total chips are very very awesome, I have done twice but only have won 90 chips. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) only gold 3 and winning anything is good for free just have to get lucky
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July 27, 2015, 09:15:37 PM Last edit: July 27, 2015, 11:13:53 PM by Betcoin.AG |
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P0kerpr0digy Takes Down 10 BTC GTD Pre Millions FREEROLL at Betcoin Poker Congratulations to p0kerpr0digy for winning the Betcoin Poker 10 BTC GTD Pre Millions Freeroll and taking home 1.925 BTC!It was an action packed Sunday at Betcoin Poker as 833 players battled for a 10 BTC prizepool in the 10 BTC GTD Pre Millions Freeroll. Many long time Betcoin Poker players finished in the money and the tournament brought many new depositing players to Betcoin Poker. You can be assured that Betcoin Poker will host another 10 BTC Freeroll again soon https://www.betcoin.ag/p0kerpr0digy-takes-down-10-btc-gtd-pre-millions-freeroll-betcoin-poker
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July 27, 2015, 11:07:31 PM |
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13,269mBTC raked for the "bad beat jackpot" + 2,180mBTC raked from the "freeroll" - 10,000mBTC paid out from the "freeroll" = 5,449mBTC in Betcoin's pocket.
yeah why didnt the rebuys and add on not get add to the prize pool? if rebuys and add ones were more than 10 btc then the prize would be more than 10 BTC but since rebuys and add ones are smaller than the GTD amount then the site will add that to their pocket rebuys and add ones help players to get a second chance and they fill the site pocket with some extra money This was an unusual tournament in that the GTD money was taken from the BBJP from money that was deducted from players as additional rake and posted to the BBJP. The GTD amount did not come from Betcoin but from the players. So the guarantee was met even before the tournament started. The buy ins and add ons should have been added to the pot in my opinion.
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July 27, 2015, 11:36:24 PM |
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We can confirm that there will be another 10 BTC freeroll in the near future and we would like to make them regular tournaments. This format ended up being the most successful in terms of bringing in new depositing players which is essential. It was also a very exciting tournament.
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July 28, 2015, 01:54:49 AM |
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P0kerpr0digy Takes Down 10 BTC GTD Pre Millions FREEROLL at Betcoin Poker Congratulations to p0kerpr0digy for winning the Betcoin Poker 10 BTC GTD Pre Millions Freeroll and taking home 1.925 BTC!It was an action packed Sunday at Betcoin Poker as 833 players battled for a 10 BTC prizepool in the 10 BTC GTD Pre Millions Freeroll. Many long time Betcoin Poker players finished in the money and the tournament brought many new depositing players to Betcoin Poker. You can be assured that Betcoin Poker will host another 10 BTC Freeroll again soon https://www.betcoin.ag/p0kerpr0digy-takes-down-10-btc-gtd-pre-millions-freeroll-betcoin-poker I got busted early... congratulations pokerprodigy hes earned 0.09625 per hour playing this tournament
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July 28, 2015, 02:04:03 AM |
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We can confirm that there will be another 10 BTC freeroll in the near future and we would like to make them regular tournaments. This format ended up being the most successful in terms of bringing in new depositing players which is essential. It was also a very exciting tournament.
BULLSHIT. The tourney and it's format was a complete fucking failure. You took 13BTC of players money from the BBJ and advertised a 10BTC freeroll to everyone regardless of if they contributed to it. Then you refused to list any details whatsoever of the tourney until it started. 10 x 10 mins of late registration that no one knew about until they were already in the tourney after it started. You left yourself wide-open to multi-accounting because of this. Then players find out there is 5 rebuys for 10+1 chips yet you fail to inform anyone exactly how many chips they will receive. However that is not the worst. The worst is that there was an addon. Well that should be harmless right? Nope. You decided to never inform anyone what the cost of the addon was nor the amount of the chips that would be received until the addon popped up. Actually there was something far more sinister in the tourney. There was 13BTC in the BBJ that was supposed to be allocated for this 10BTC "freeroll". However only 10BTC was. But it gets worse. Betcoin decided to keep every last chip from players for every rebuy and all the addons. SO, How the fuck do you have the balls to call the format the most successful? And who the fuck do you think you are kidding. Pathetic.
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July 28, 2015, 02:19:13 AM |
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We can confirm that there will be another 10 BTC freeroll in the near future and we would like to make them regular tournaments. This format ended up being the most successful in terms of bringing in new depositing players which is essential. It was also a very exciting tournament.
BULLSHIT. The tourney and it's format was a complete fucking failure. You took 13BTC of players money from the BBJ and advertised a 10BTC freeroll to everyone regardless of if they contributed to it. Then you refused to list any details whatsoever of the tourney until it started. 10 x 10 mins of late registration that no one knew about until they were already in the tourney after it started. You left yourself wide-open to multi-accounting because of this. Then players find out there is 5 rebuys for 10+1 chips yet you fail to inform anyone exactly how many chips they will receive. However that is not the worst. The worst is that there was an addon. Well that should be harmless right? Nope. You decided to never inform anyone what the cost of the addon was nor the amount of the chips that would be received until the addon popped up. Actually there was something far more sinister in the tourney. There was 13BTC in the BBJ that was supposed to be allocated for this 10BTC "freeroll". However only 10BTC was. But it gets worse. Betcoin decided to keep every last chip from players for every rebuy and all the addons. SO, How the fuck do you have the balls to call the format the most successful? And who the fuck do you think you are kidding. Pathetic. many problems but it was freeroll where insiders had advantage because they know for rebuys/addons ... they do not care about multi accounting they just want big number of players
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July 28, 2015, 02:53:09 AM |
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I can understand why betcoin thinks they have a bbjp, and bbjp funds that the players should be given a shot to win.
But the truth is, there is no bbjp and there never was. A progressive jackpot that has no way to be won is simply another fee or edge for the house.
Due to some programming issue, they have been over raking .01 mbtc extra out of every raked pot.
There are probably 20 or so players whos over charged funds make up a majority of that jackpot fund. (I'm not suggesting I'm one of them)
On one hand, it's really not a big deal - betcoin rake is ridiculously small, and the overake is also ridiculously small. Also this giant freeroll was worth less than $5 in equity per player, you can find equal value on a daily basis elsewhere.
On the other hand, when you accidentally charge someone more than what was previously agreed, the only thing to do is return their money.
I feel the same as the anti collusion 10btc freeroll.
"Hey guys look we have all this money that should be yours, but due to someone cheating or a bug in our software, now we have it. You don't mind if we just use it to promote our business instead of giving it back to you, right?"
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fox19891989
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July 28, 2015, 02:55:43 AM |
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We can confirm that there will be another 10 BTC freeroll in the near future and we would like to make them regular tournaments. This format ended up being the most successful in terms of bringing in new depositing players which is essential. It was also a very exciting tournament.
BULLSHIT. The tourney and it's format was a complete fucking failure. You took 13BTC of players money from the BBJ and advertised a 10BTC freeroll to everyone regardless of if they contributed to it. Then you refused to list any details whatsoever of the tourney until it started. 10 x 10 mins of late registration that no one knew about until they were already in the tourney after it started. You left yourself wide-open to multi-accounting because of this. Then players find out there is 5 rebuys for 10+1 chips yet you fail to inform anyone exactly how many chips they will receive. However that is not the worst. The worst is that there was an addon. Well that should be harmless right? Nope. You decided to never inform anyone what the cost of the addon was nor the amount of the chips that would be received until the addon popped up. Actually there was something far more sinister in the tourney. There was 13BTC in the BBJ that was supposed to be allocated for this 10BTC "freeroll". However only 10BTC was. But it gets worse. Betcoin decided to keep every last chip from players for every rebuy and all the addons. SO, How the fuck do you have the balls to call the format the most successful? And who the fuck do you think you are kidding. Pathetic. I have to say something. Some people deserve to lose much money on re-buys, I played in satoshicardclub and I saw how many retarded guys spend money on unlimited re-buys, and they always re-bought even could't profit at all. But their luck was good, lol. If people can control their emotions, the re-buy and add-on fees are much lower than this time. Betcoin poker is good enough, they just need to show more transparency.
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July 28, 2015, 02:57:35 AM Last edit: July 28, 2015, 03:28:09 AM by wwwin |
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We can confirm that there will be another 10 BTC freeroll in the near future and we would like to make them regular tournaments. This format ended up being the most successful in terms of bringing in new depositing players which is essential. It was also a very exciting tournament.
BULLSHIT. The tourney and it's format was a complete fucking failure. You took 13BTC of players money from the BBJ and advertised a 10BTC freeroll to everyone regardless of if they contributed to it. Then you refused to list any details whatsoever of the tourney until it started. 10 x 10 mins of late registration that no one knew about until they were already in the tourney after it started. You left yourself wide-open to multi-accounting because of this. Then players find out there is 5 rebuys for 10+1 chips yet you fail to inform anyone exactly how many chips they will receive. However that is not the worst. The worst is that there was an addon. Well that should be harmless right? Nope. You decided to never inform anyone what the cost of the addon was nor the amount of the chips that would be received until the addon popped up. Actually there was something far more sinister in the tourney. There was 13BTC in the BBJ that was supposed to be allocated for this 10BTC "freeroll". However only 10BTC was. But it gets worse. Betcoin decided to keep every last chip from players for every rebuy and all the addons. SO, How the fuck do you have the balls to call the format the most successful? And who the fuck do you think you are kidding. Pathetic. I want the best for this site but sadly, I would have to agree with you. I think they mean the most successful tourny for BETCOIN..They collected 15BTC and paid out 10BTC. That was a FREEROLL but for the house LOL. .Never heard of a tourney, online, live or in the Earth2 they found, where the house made 2.5 times what the 1st place winner made...What a country...I got turned off from the 1st hand when the starting stack size was 3,000 instead of the usual 10,000 for the prior "freerolls", the more than 1/3 smaller starting stack designed for more rebuys, which would not be added to the prize money, even when GTD money came from player's funds...but they outsmarted themselves...as you said how are players going to make an intelligent decision to rebuy or not if don't know how many chips you get? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ...LOL. It's like checking in the dark except it costs you money.. Considering the current options to play at Bitcoin sites Betcoin is not a bad place to play,...the problem is that they underestimate the players' intelligence level and this is quite a turn off. Considering that SWC is dead Betcoin should have grown at a faster rate when Seals went under. But Betcoin is content just to grow slowly even when they could grow exponentially. They could grow much faster if they stop all these gimmics, a "freeroll funded by players' extra rake, a deposit bonus release that is not trackable, and a rake system that is not trackable and you would need to clone Einstein to figure out how much rake you are getting with the Betcoins conversions. But hey all in all is the best right now for Bitcoin but it could be much much better if they were more straight forward and would quit outsmarting themselves. Of course, just my humble opinion...
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July 28, 2015, 08:16:08 AM |
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Let's play a game of "Who did Betcoin steal from recently?" I'll even give you a hint: it was me! All information is in the below thread. It's sad that I have to resort to making everything public but when they purposely start ignoring me after breaking their OWN protocol (therefore stealing funds in the process), they leave people with no choice. Depressing to see a high-profile site do this over a quarter, but I'm glad it was a cheap lesson instead of what could have been a much more expensive one. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1136935.msg11989040#msg11989040
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July 28, 2015, 10:09:15 AM |
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To be fair the good things should also be posted...Requested a 200 chip withdrawal today and got it in less than 2 hours ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 28, 2015, 11:32:06 AM |
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We can confirm that there will be another 10 BTC freeroll in the near future and we would like to make them regular tournaments. This format ended up being the most successful in terms of bringing in new depositing players which is essential. It was also a very exciting tournament.
BULLSHIT. The tourney and it's format was a complete fucking failure. You took 13BTC of players money from the BBJ and advertised a 10BTC freeroll to everyone regardless of if they contributed to it. Then you refused to list any details whatsoever of the tourney until it started. 10 x 10 mins of late registration that no one knew about until they were already in the tourney after it started. You left yourself wide-open to multi-accounting because of this. Then players find out there is 5 rebuys for 10+1 chips yet you fail to inform anyone exactly how many chips they will receive. However that is not the worst. The worst is that there was an addon. Well that should be harmless right? Nope. You decided to never inform anyone what the cost of the addon was nor the amount of the chips that would be received until the addon popped up. Actually there was something far more sinister in the tourney. There was 13BTC in the BBJ that was supposed to be allocated for this 10BTC "freeroll". However only 10BTC was. But it gets worse. Betcoin decided to keep every last chip from players for every rebuy and all the addons. SO, How the fuck do you have the balls to call the format the most successful? And who the fuck do you think you are kidding. Pathetic. I want the best for this site but sadly, I would have to agree with you. I think they mean the most successful tourny for BETCOIN.. They collected 15BTC and paid out 10BTC.This is not g00t. Period.That was a FREEROLL but for the house LOL. .Never heard of a tourney, online, live or in the Earth2 they found, where the house made 2.5 times what the 1st place winner made...What a country...I got turned off from the 1st hand when the starting stack size was 3,000 instead of the usual 10,000 for the prior "freerolls", the more than 1/3 smaller starting stack designed for more rebuys, which would not be added to the prize money, even when GTD money came from player's funds...but they outsmarted themselves...as you said how are players going to make an intelligent decision to rebuy or not if don't know how many chips you get? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ...LOL. It's like checking in the dark except it costs you money.. Considering the current options to play at Bitcoin sites Betcoin is not a bad place to play,...the problem is that they underestimate the players' intelligence level and this is quite a turn off. Considering that SWC is dead Betcoin should have grown at a faster rate when Seals went under. But Betcoin is content just to grow slowly even when they could grow exponentially. They could grow much faster if they stop all these gimmics, a "freeroll funded by players' extra rake, a deposit bonus release that is not trackable, and a rake system that is not trackable and you would need to clone Einstein to figure out how much rake you are getting with the Betcoins conversions. But hey all in all is the best right now for Bitcoin but it could be much much better if they were more straight forward and would quit outsmarting themselves. Of course, just my humble opinion... Hory Crap. Now I'm glad I only lasted a half hour. [but I did make 1 rebuy, and now I feel like I been burned for 10mBTC
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July 28, 2015, 02:10:00 PM |
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I can understand why betcoin thinks they have a bbjp, and bbjp funds that the players should be given a shot to win.
But the truth is, there is no bbjp and there never was. A progressive jackpot that has no way to be won is simply another fee or edge for the house.
Due to some programming issue, they have been over raking .01 mbtc extra out of every raked pot.
There are probably 20 or so players whos over charged funds make up a majority of that jackpot fund. (I'm not suggesting I'm one of them)
On one hand, it's really not a big deal - betcoin rake is ridiculously small, and the overake is also ridiculously small. Also this giant freeroll was worth less than $5 in equity per player, you can find equal value on a daily basis elsewhere.
On the other hand, when you accidentally charge someone more than what was previously agreed, the only thing to do is return their money.
I feel the same as the anti collusion 10btc freeroll.
"Hey guys look we have all this money that should be yours, but due to someone cheating or a bug in our software, now we have it. You don't mind if we just use it to promote our business instead of giving it back to you, right?"
In regard to the bolded.....it is 0.01 mbtc taken from every hand that goes to the flop whether it is raked or not. I saw in a 0.01-0.02 game where 2 people saw the flop = a 0.04 pot and the 0.01 for the bbj was taken out. The pot was too small for rake to be taken.
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July 28, 2015, 05:46:06 PM |
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Very interesting to see the anger at a website hosting a 10 btc freeroll and then announcing they will be holding more 10 btc freerolls. I am very appreciative of having the opportunity to play in these freerolls and encourage Betcoin to keep up the good work. The size of this freeroll was bigger than most other poker room freerolls and they have announced they will be doing this frequently. I for one will hold them to this rather than complain about these opportunities.
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July 28, 2015, 06:02:54 PM |
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Very interesting to see the anger at a website hosting a 10 btc freeroll and then announcing they will be holding more 10 btc freerolls. I am very appreciative of having the opportunity to play in these freerolls and encourage Betcoin to keep up the good work. The size of this freeroll was bigger than most other poker room freerolls and they have announced they will be doing this frequently. I for one will hold them to this rather than complain about these opportunities.
Thank you for the feedback ftwbtc1 and everyone else. The format of the tournament was not known to anyone, therefore nobody had an advantage and we learned from this format and will make an announcement of the specifics prior to the next time. The bad beat jackpot is actually still fully integrated into the system and if someone were to hit it, it would still pay out in full. The rake you pay at Betcoin is half of ACR, half of Bovada and a little more than half of Pokerstars, and our VIP program is extremely competitive therefore you get far more value at Betcoin. We received numerous thankful comments about the 10 btc FREEROLL and very constructive suggestions on how to do the next one which we will do. We plan on making 10 btc Freerolls a frequent part of Betcoin and will solicit feedback for the tournament format at Betcoin.ag and here. We are very pleased and happy with Betcoin's continued progress and for all of the wonderful people that we have had a chance to provide the service to. We will continue to work very hard to improve the Betcoin experience everyday and we consider ourselves very lucky to have a great group of players that continues to grow everyday. For individual issues, suggestions, feedback, etc. please creat a ticket at Betcoin.ag.
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