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[wwwin]

EDIT: And insisting that Betcoin.ag is not a member of the WPN's player pool is beyond bizarre....LOL

They aren't tho.  You've had this explained to you multiple times.  They are allowed to contribute to WTN's player pool, but they are not guided by WPN or governed by WPN and when they fuck up on their end, WPN does not bail the players out.  If you'd like proof of those facts, just look at the fact that Betcoin operates in many jurisdictions where none of the actual WPN skins do.  If Betcoin was actually a skin of WPN, then WPN would inform them, much like they've informed the actual skins, that they needed to pull out of those jurisdictions (as all of the skins have) because they are concerned about legal issues that may arise. 

Anyway, once you are past this, my question to you would be why are you white-knighting a site that won't even defend itself against questions/comments that it has solicited? 

Exactly. If he  does not get this time. Then he is just posting to get paid for the signature campaign.

I'm not even talking about who bails who out, or who governs what....I concede that point.  I am saying that Betcoin.ag is included in the WPN's player pool.  This is how I know:  When I play the WPN tournaments from ACR, Blackchip, True poker...etc, I see players from Betcoin.ag at my tables.  And, when I play the WPN tournaments from Betcoin.ag, I can see the ACR, Blackchip, True Poker...etc players at my table too.  So, either we're part of the same poker player pool or there is something seriously weird going on!  Am I confused or does anybody else see players from other skins at their tables too?

Everybody knows that. That is not what we are talking about.

[DarkDays]

EDIT: And insisting that Betcoin.ag is not a member of the WPN's player pool is beyond bizarre....LOL

They aren't tho.  You've had this explained to you multiple times.  They are allowed to contribute to WTN's player pool, but they are not guided by WPN or governed by WPN and when they fuck up on their end, WPN does not bail the players out.  If you'd like proof of those facts, just look at the fact that Betcoin operates in many jurisdictions where none of the actual WPN skins do.  If Betcoin was actually a skin of WPN, then WPN would inform them, much like they've informed the actual skins, that they needed to pull out of those jurisdictions (as all of the skins have) because they are concerned about legal issues that may arise. 

Anyway, once you are past this, my question to you would be why are you white-knighting a site that won't even defend itself against questions/comments that it has solicited? 

Exactly. If he  does not get this time. Then he is just posting to get paid for the signature campaign.

I'm not even talking about who bails who out, or who governs what....I concede that point.  I am saying that Betcoin.ag is included in the WPN's player pool.  This is how I know:  When I play the WPN tournaments from ACR, Blackchip, True poker...etc, I see players from Betcoin.ag at my tables.  And, when I play the WPN tournaments from Betcoin.ag, I can see the ACR, Blackchip, True Poker...etc players at my table too.  So, either we're part of the same poker player pool or there is something seriously weird going on!  Am I confused or does anybody else see players from other skins at their tables too?

What are you talking about?  Yes, Betcoin players are able to play on the WTN, I've said that around a half dozen times now.

[cjmoles]

EDIT: And insisting that Betcoin.ag is not a member of the WPN's player pool is beyond bizarre....LOL

They aren't tho.  You've had this explained to you multiple times.  They are allowed to contribute to WTN's player pool, but they are not guided by WPN or governed by WPN and when they fuck up on their end, WPN does not bail the players out.  If you'd like proof of those facts, just look at the fact that Betcoin operates in many jurisdictions where none of the actual WPN skins do.  If Betcoin was actually a skin of WPN, then WPN would inform them, much like they've informed the actual skins, that they needed to pull out of those jurisdictions (as all of the skins have) because they are concerned about legal issues that may arise.  

Anyway, once you are past this, my question to you would be why are you white-knighting a site that won't even defend itself against questions/comments that it has solicited?  

Exactly. If he  does not get this time. Then he is just posting to get paid for the signature campaign.

I'm not even talking about who bails who out, or who governs what....I concede that point.  I am saying that Betcoin.ag is included in the WPN's player pool.  This is how I know:  When I play the WPN tournaments from ACR, Blackchip, True poker...etc, I see players from Betcoin.ag at my tables.  And, when I play the WPN tournaments from Betcoin.ag, I can see the ACR, Blackchip, True Poker...etc players at my table too.  So, either we're part of the same poker player pool or there is something seriously weird going on!  Am I confused or does anybody else see players from other skins at their tables too?

What are you talking about?  Yes, Betcoin players are able to play on the WTN, I've said that around a half dozen times now.

Oh, okay.  I must have misinterpreted the first sentence in your reply above....sorry.  I'm past that one then.  To answer your question: "Anyway, once you are past this, my question to you would be why are you white-knighting a site that won't even defend itself against questions/comments that it has solicited?"

This is my position on Betcoin.ag poker. I truly believe in the site and I want to see it succeed. I've been playing online poker for many years. I have played on a majority of the branded sites that operate in fiat.  On April 15 ("Black Friday"), 2011, our poker accounts were blocked, and it became hard to find a decent place to play poker online in the United States. When a site could be found that accepted US citizens, problems arose with banking.  We found ways to deposit thru various processors which included techniques, such as, purchasing phone cards online and transferring those credits (LOL...remember that?).  And, when it was possible to deposit onto an online site, many times it was more difficult to withdraw because of processor regulations, processing time frames, and withdrawal limits.  One of the worst, Carbon Poker's withdrawal policy had a $1500 limit, allowed only one withdrawal at a time, and had an average six week processing speed!  As a result of the problems associated with banking, the sites that accepted US citizens had problems maintaining a player pool large enough to provide the volume of play necessary for the player who played poker full time to maintain a meaningful profit margin. The volume just wasn't there anymore.

Anyway, the WPN was one of the networks that kept accepting players from the United States. Over the years, and more recently, the WPN's aggressive integration of several smaller sites and its aggressive promotional marketing strategy increased the size of the network's player pool substantially. Subsequently, there were still problems with banking which included an extensive documentation validation process which slowed down withdrawal times. During this period, the genesis of bitcoin began to take hold (one bitcoin was worth $1 in April of 2011) and only recently (little over a year or so ago), the CEO of the WPN recognized the opportunity and adopted bitcoin as a payment option on their platform. However, bitcoin didn't get adopted that well within that community so bitcoin represents only a small percentage of their revenue. Furthermore, there are technical issues associated with incorporating bitcoin into the fiat based platform because of bitcoin's volatility, constant price fluctuations, and arbitrage which is still being contemplated today. In fact, during the past week, some of America's Cardroom users have had their bitcoin withdrawal options suspended. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/218/winning-poker-network/bitcoin-deposits-withdraws-1502384/index61.html)  

Here's where Betcoin.ag enters the picture and what makes it special compared to the other gambling sites on this forum.  By being a member of the Winning Tournament Network branch of the Winning Poker Network, Betcoin.ag has the unique opportunity to be a part of the WPN's tournament player pool while none of the other bitcoin gambling sites on this forum have that advantage.  Being a part of a larger player pool benefits Betcoin.ag's players by providing a greater liquidity, it also benefits the Bitcoin community, in general, by increasing bitcoin's adoption rate. Betcoin.ag's platform is exclusively a crypocurrency based system, it doesn't accept fiat transactions, so it is allowed to operate in jurisdictions the other WPN skins are not allowed to enter which adds potential to increase the size of the pool within the network.

Now, considering what all the other bitcoin gambling sites on this forum have at stake, I understand why there's so much dissent with Betcoin.ag in this thread. In fact, if I had an investment in a bitcoin gambling site on this forum, I would feel threatened too. To be sure, whatever the WPN's business structure looks like, the truth of the matter is that when we play at Betcoin.ag, we are included within the WPN's poker tournament player pool which is a huge privilege and a fantastic advantage.  

One cannot beat the value....look at the rakeback we're getting!  Am I in the Twilight zone or something?  Wow!

[Betcoin.AG]

There is still time to earn your ticket to the Betcoin PLAYERS CLUB 5 BTC Freeroll by increasing your status to Bronze I or by receiving one of the few manager's discretion tickets remaining.  This will be a very solid tournament with a clean format, 5,000 chips no reentry, no rebuy.  Expect more VIP tournaments in 2016 and beyond from Betcoin Poker

Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll

Betcoin Poker is excited to present the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll

https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-poker-players-club-vip-5-btc-new-years-freeroll

Betcoin Poker would like to thank all of you for your support and we are excited to present the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll on January 10, 2016 at 2pm EST designed to thank and reward our players for their support. 

This is a ticket only event and all players with Bronze I level or higher VIP / Player's Club status will receive a ticket by January 8, 2016. Players that have been active on Betcoin may also receive a ticket at the managers sole discretion. Manager's discretion tickets will not be awarded until January 8, 2016.



The tournament structure is very simple and straight forward:

5,000 starting stack
10 minute blinds
6 levels late registration
No Reentry
No Rebuy

Because this is a VIP ticket only event, expect a lot less players with this solid format. Multi-accounting will be drastically reduced and we will be monitoring throughout the tournament. Anyone caught multi-accounting will have their account frozen and funds seized.

Good luck and we will make 2016 amazing for everyone! Good luck!

[Betcoin.AG]

A few more tickets remain here as well:

LEGENDARY BONUS FOR SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN
LEGENDARY MEMBERS


10 TICKETS
FOR THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST VIP POKER 5BTC FREEROLL TOURNAMENTS
JAN 10 2016

LEGENDARY MEMBERS - JOIN OUR SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN NOW AND
GET YOUR TICKET!!!


(Offer available only for Legendary Members - You will receive your ticket on Jan 8th)
(Currently participating Legendary Members are included)

(You will need to make at least 15 new posts from now on till the Jan 8th to receive the ticket)




Before you join - please read the OP for further instructions.

[fox19891989]

now 107 players signed up that 5 btc freeroll, which is amazing! I never thought there will be so many players there, and i hope i will see less than 150 players so we will have better chance to earn big money from that awesome VIP freerolls.

[Betcoin.AG]

now 107 players signed up that 5 btc freeroll, which is amazing! I never thought there will be so many players there, and i hope i will see less than 150 players so we will have better chance to earn big money from that awesome VIP freerolls.

Thank you for the compliment regarding the freeroll.  The staff is quite pleasantly surprised at the turnout as well.  It is very great to see some of our most active players preparing for the big tournament.  We wish everyone the best of luck and it will certainly have far less than the over 900 who competed in the last 10 btc tournament! 

[Betcoin.AG]

Congratulations to BitcoinTalk member knightdk for winning the Stage 2 Bonus Prize Ticket to the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC Freeroll!

LUCKY WINNER


"At the end of each stage one participant will be chosen by the Campaign manager who get us a bonus surprise(usually cash prizes)."
Stage 2 Bonus Prize Winner is: knightdk (achow101)

A ticket to the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll will be credited into your Betcoin.ag account soon!

Congratulations

Heh. Thanks!

You are very welcome.  Good luck!

[ftwbtc1]

Also, received my bonus.  Thank you.  Any details on manager's tickets to the 5 btc freeroll?  Thanks.

[wwwin]

EDIT: And insisting that Betcoin.ag is not a member of the WPN's player pool is beyond bizarre....LOL

They aren't tho.  You've had this explained to you multiple times.  They are allowed to contribute to WTN's player pool, but they are not guided by WPN or governed by WPN and when they fuck up on their end, WPN does not bail the players out.  If you'd like proof of those facts, just look at the fact that Betcoin operates in many jurisdictions where none of the actual WPN skins do.  If Betcoin was actually a skin of WPN, then WPN would inform them, much like they've informed the actual skins, that they needed to pull out of those jurisdictions (as all of the skins have) because they are concerned about legal issues that may arise.  

Anyway, once you are past this, my question to you would be why are you white-knighting a site that won't even defend itself against questions/comments that it has solicited?  

Exactly. If he  does not get this time. Then he is just posting to get paid for the signature campaign.

I'm not even talking about who bails who out, or who governs what....I concede that point.  I am saying that Betcoin.ag is included in the WPN's player pool.  This is how I know:  When I play the WPN tournaments from ACR, Blackchip, True poker...etc, I see players from Betcoin.ag at my tables.  And, when I play the WPN tournaments from Betcoin.ag, I can see the ACR, Blackchip, True Poker...etc players at my table too.  So, either we're part of the same poker player pool or there is something seriously weird going on!  Am I confused or does anybody else see players from other skins at their tables too?

What are you talking about?  Yes, Betcoin players are able to play on the WTN, I've said that around a half dozen times now.

Oh, okay.  I must have misinterpreted the first sentence in your reply above....sorry.  I'm past that one then.  To answer your question: "Anyway, once you are past this, my question to you would be why are you white-knighting a site that won't even defend itself against questions/comments that it has solicited?"

This is my position on Betcoin.ag poker. I truly believe in the site and I want to see it succeed. I've been playing online poker for many years. I have played on a majority of the branded sites that operate in fiat.  On April 15 ("Black Friday"), 2011, our poker accounts were blocked, and it became hard to find a decent place to play poker online in the United States. When a site could be found that accepted US citizens, problems arose with banking.  We found ways to deposit thru various processors which included techniques, such as, purchasing phone cards online and transferring those credits (LOL...remember that?).  And, when it was possible to deposit onto an online site, many times it was more difficult to withdraw because of processor regulations, processing time frames, and withdrawal limits.  One of the worst, Carbon Poker's withdrawal policy had a $1500 limit, allowed only one withdrawal at a time, and had an average six week processing speed!  As a result of the problems associated with banking, the sites that accepted US citizens had problems maintaining a player pool large enough to provide the volume of play necessary for the player who played poker full time to maintain a meaningful profit margin. The volume just wasn't there anymore.

Anyway, the WPN was one of the networks that kept accepting players from the United States. Over the years, and more recently, the WPN's aggressive integration of several smaller sites and its aggressive promotional marketing strategy increased the size of the network's player pool substantially. Subsequently, there were still problems with banking which included an extensive documentation validation process which slowed down withdrawal times. During this period, the genesis of bitcoin began to take hold (one bitcoin was worth $1 in April of 2011) and only recently (little over a year or so ago), the CEO of the WPN recognized the opportunity and adopted bitcoin as a payment option on their platform. However, bitcoin didn't get adopted that well within that community so bitcoin represents only a small percentage of their revenue. Furthermore, there are technical issues associated with incorporating bitcoin into the fiat based platform because of bitcoin's volatility, constant price fluctuations, and arbitrage which is still being contemplated today. In fact, during the past week, some of America's Cardroom users have had their bitcoin withdrawal options suspended. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/218/winning-poker-network/bitcoin-deposits-withdraws-1502384/index61.html)  

Here's where Betcoin.ag enters the picture and what makes it special compared to the other gambling sites on this forum.  By being a member of the Winning Tournament Network branch of the Winning Poker Network, Betcoin.ag has the unique opportunity to be a part of the WPN's tournament player pool while none of the other bitcoin gambling sites on this forum have that advantage.  Being a part of a larger player pool benefits Betcoin.ag's players by providing a greater liquidity, it also benefits the Bitcoin community, in general, by increasing bitcoin's adoption rate. Betcoin.ag's platform is exclusively a crypocurrency based system, it doesn't accept fiat transactions, so it is allowed to operate in jurisdictions the other WPN skins are not allowed to enter which adds potential to increase the size of the pool within the network.

Now, considering what all the other bitcoin gambling sites on this forum have at stake, I understand why there's so much dissent with Betcoin.ag in this thread. In fact, if I had an investment in a bitcoin gambling site on this forum, I would feel threatened too. To be sure, whatever the WPN's business structure looks like, the truth of the matter is that when we play at Betcoin.ag, we are included within the WPN's poker tournament player pool which is a huge privilege and a fantastic advantage.  

One cannot beat the value....look at the rakeback we're getting!  Am I in the Twilight zone or something?  Wow!

I don't dispute what you are saying. But the part that you are missing is that customer support lies. I have first hand knowledge of it. Do you trust a site that lies to you?
Why do you think that with all the good things they have, as I have said many times, they don't grow. They are not new anymore, have been around more than 2 years more or less.
Why do you think that they are stuck in neutral and basically have the same average number of players in the cash games as a year ago. When Seals went down they grow from being nothing, but they have not grown anymore since that time and that was in February 2015. They just don't know how to retain players. What good are all the promotions if they cannot retain players due to the way customer service conducts itself and pisses players off.
Yep...the twilight zone is correct. Should be much bigger site. They have many good things but don't grow and don't retain many players for stupid hard headed reasons  in the way they operate regarding customer service communications.

Look at twichy/OHYEAH...the guy is playing 2 tournaments and some cash games at the same time. Yet they manage to piss him off so much that he becomes berserk and even posts  on the pokerfraud site.  He does not come across as a lunatic and appears to be truthful guy, yet he is enraged by the bullshit side of the site.

[Betcoin.AG]

Currently sitting at Bronze 2, hopefully will make it into B1 before the 9th, wouldn't want to miss such an opportunity. Thank you and best of luck to everyone.

You are very welcome for the opportunity.  It is really shaping up to be a great tournament.  There are also some manager's discretion tickets remaining to be claimed. 

[Betcoin.AG]

Community Selections for the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll

The Betcoin Poker community will select 3-5 members to receive tickets to the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll.

At Betcoin Poker, we are very much appreciative of our great community members and believe that your feedback and support is essential to us providing you the best possible place to play. We are giving you the power to select 3-5 Betcoin poker community members to receive a ticket to the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll. Here is how it works:

Each player seeking consideration of the ticket will write at least 5 sentences in a comment on the following link regarding why they should be granted a ticket into the the tournament.  You cannot nominate a player.  The player must create the comment that is voted on. 

https://www.betcoin.ag/community-selections-betcoin-poker-players-club-vip-5-btc-new-years-freeroll

The 3-5 players with the most likes and comments will receive the ticket on January 8, 2016 by 8pm EST.

Three tickets will be give if less than ten entrants participate and 5 tickets shall be given if 10 or more entrants participate in this promotion. If anyone is caught creating a new account to multi-account, the new account and your original account will be suspended indefinitely and you will not participate in this 5 BTC Freeroll.

Good luck to everyone.

For more information on the freeroll please go here: https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-poker-players-club-vip-5-btc-new-years-freeroll

[michigan]

I dont know bout yall but i think betcoin.ag is the best thing online when it comes to online poker and casino.If you want sportsbook action its the best to so many options to bet and take advantage of all the great action. Not only all that but they have a great community to which makes it feel like a awesome lil family.Betcoin.ag is the only place to be for all your online gaming and fun.

[cjmoles]

Phil is on twitch right now explaining things related to the WPN....ask questions there.

http://www.twitch.tv/justsomefish72

[DarkDays]

Phil is on twitch right now explaining things related to the WPN....ask questions there.

http://www.twitch.tv/justsomefish72

Why?  Betcoin isn't in the WPN.  I feel like this is the 10th time I've told you that.

[TwitchySeal]

I dont know bout yall but i think betcoin.ag is the best thing online when it comes to online poker and casino.If you want sportsbook action its the best to so many options to bet and take advantage of all the great action. Not only all that but they have a great community to which makes it feel like a awesome lil family.Betcoin.ag is the only place to be for all your online gaming and fun.

Forgot about this one.  This was before Andrew knew that any comment he liked was made public (at least partially), even if it was from another Admin discussing how they handled multi accounters.




Also, while I'm here - an unhappy (former) Betcoin HU reg sent me this after he realized Betcoin changed the rake from a 1 or 2 chip cap to infinity...

I'm not sure exactly why he chose to multiply everything by 20, there may be a good reason I haven't considered,  but every stat is based on what the total rake would be at a HU table after 20 pots before the rake change, and after.



I think it's safe to assume Betcoin either doesn't understand how ridiculous it is to have no cap online, especially HU - or - they are aware of the damage HU Cash games can do to a poker ecosystem and want to get rid of them (this would be a very smart move imo).  Rather than simply close the tables, they  decided to increase the rake astronomically without bothering to send out an email or some sort of notification - this could easily cost the mid-HS regs enough to fund several freerolls in the future.

Can't wait to see what they do next.

[Betcoin.AG]

they are aware of the damage HU Cash games can do to a poker ecosystem and want to get rid of them (this would be a very smart move imo). 

Can't wait to see what they do next.

This is exactly correct and the reason many poker websites are eliminating the high stakes heads up tables altogether and though we were urged to do the same, we are testing the option of keeping them which players are still enjoying.  The same stakes and higher can be found at 6/9 seat tables with the lower rake and most of these tables will run heads up anyway.

And we have some great things coming Twitchy we can assure you of that.  2016 will be a great year for Betcoin and our great players.  Good luck everyone. 

[Betcoin.AG]

I dont know bout yall but i think betcoin.ag is the best thing online when it comes to online poker and casino.If you want sportsbook action its the best to so many options to bet and take advantage of all the great action. Not only all that but they have a great community to which makes it feel like a awesome lil family.Betcoin.ag is the only place to be for all your online gaming and fun.

Thank you for the feedback.  2016 will be a great year for Betcoin and our great players.  Get your VIP level up and get in the 5 BTC Freeroll to start of the new year right!  Good luck.

[Betcoin.AG]

Only one more day to get a ticket to the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll - Anyone that does not have a ticket can apply at Betcoin.ag by following the instructions below:

Don't miss this opportunity for a very straight forward freeroll with a low field!

Community Selections for the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll

The Betcoin Poker community will select 3-5 members to receive tickets to the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll.

At Betcoin Poker, we are very much appreciative of our great community members and believe that your feedback and support is essential to us providing you the best possible place to play. We are giving you the power to select 3-5 Betcoin poker community members to receive a ticket to the Betcoin Poker PLAYERS CLUB VIP 5 BTC New Years Freeroll. Here is how it works:

Each player seeking consideration of the ticket will write at least 5 sentences in a comment on the following link regarding why they should be granted a ticket into the the tournament.  You cannot nominate a player.  The player must create the comment that is voted on.  

https://www.betcoin.ag/community-selections-betcoin-poker-players-club-vip-5-btc-new-years-freeroll

The 3-5 players with the most likes and comments will receive the ticket on January 8, 2016 by 8pm EST.

Three tickets will be give if less than ten entrants participate and 5 tickets shall be given if 10 or more entrants participate in this promotion. If anyone is caught creating a new account to multi-account, the new account and your original account will be suspended indefinitely and you will not participate in this 5 BTC Freeroll.

Good luck to everyone.

For more information on the freeroll please go here: https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-poker-players-club-vip-5-btc-new-years-freeroll

[Betcoin.AG]

STAGE 3 SPECIAL BETCOIN.AG SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN BONUS


It's a pleasure to announce that Betcoin.ag has a special bonus for everyone who will participate during the Stage 3
of Betcoin.ag Signature Campaign.


Daily Coin Tournament Ticket  - worth 50mBTC

You will be able to use your ticket at any time.

The Daily Coin is an exclusive 1 BTC GTD tournament happening every night at 9pm EST. The buyin is 50 mBTC and stage 3 signature campaign members will receive a free ticket to this event.

For more information on our signature campaign please visit:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.0