bitcoin-trader.biz

[vach]

BTW Here's the quote from his reply.

"By the way, I'm selling a similar project to rockwell-partners, it is all made and just needs to be launched. The price is $10,000 (it includes everything, from website script and design to hosting). You will be also recommended to all MNO readers and get huge attention (just like rockwell has). Please let me know if you're interested, there are currently two other guys willing to spend $10K on this project. Thanks"

So as you probably noticed this mutherfucker is an ordinary scammer who gets people thrust and then robs them. My advise to everyone who reads this, keep AWAY from HYIP even if you get out without loss (hardly possible option) that is not worth all the stress and anger you experience while you get out of this shit. And fuck them all, if someone offers you to earn money withouth doing anything thats probably a SCAM, PONZI or whatever you call it.

Here is the part of the conversation I've had with him...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rau1zojhp5auvu0/conversation.png

[capoeira]

Hi everybody,

Please check those links :

https://bitcoin-trader.biz/newsletters/newsletter-23-07-2014.html

and

https://bitcoin-trader.biz/newsletters/newsletter-08-07-2014.html

whatever i check regarding those links seems true, only conclusion from this will be that this is a real working startup (and not a scam), i mean they are messing around with Andreas...

Any thoughts on this?

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

[Iffy]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

[capoeira]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

[Iffy]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

[capoeira]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

bitternes? lol

read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.msg8124408#msg8124408

[DannyElfman]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

bitternes? lol

read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.msg8124408#msg8124408

Exactly. People are gullible and when they see returns and see their Balance growing, they get greedy.

I am not even saying that I never fell for something like that, but yes people will get burned, the question is when!

[Iffy]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

bitternes? lol

read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.msg8124408#msg8124408

I read it before and thought your brother sounded like an idiot then in all honesty. Maybe he should look at it as an education, after all they cost money too.

[ShakyhandsBTCer]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

bitternes? lol

read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.msg8124408#msg8124408

I read it before and thought your brother sounded like an idiot then in all honesty. Maybe he should look at it as an education, after all they cost money too.

Don't you feel back promoting something that is most likely a ponzi?

I think you should!

[Iffy]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

bitternes? lol

read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.msg8124408#msg8124408

I read it before and thought your brother sounded like an idiot then in all honesty. Maybe he should look at it as an education, after all they cost money too.

Don't you feel back promoting something that is most likely a ponzi?

I think you should!

All are innocent until proven guilty. Do your own due diligence and never invest more than you would be happy burning.

[ShakyhandsBTCer]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

bitternes? lol

read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.msg8124408#msg8124408

I read it before and thought your brother sounded like an idiot then in all honesty. Maybe he should look at it as an education, after all they cost money too.

Don't you feel back promoting something that is most likely a ponzi?

I think you should!

All are innocent until proven guilty. Do your own due diligence.

It is pretty obvious in this case.

It is like a guy with an axe in the hand, covered in blood comes out of a house where a dead body with axe marks lies. Still innocent? Sure there might be a 0.0001% chance he is, but come on...

[Iffy]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

bitternes? lol

read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.msg8124408#msg8124408

I read it before and thought your brother sounded like an idiot then in all honesty. Maybe he should look at it as an education, after all they cost money too.

Don't you feel back promoting something that is most likely a ponzi?

I think you should!

All are innocent until proven guilty. Do your own due diligence.

It is pretty obvious in this case.

It is like a guy with an axe in the hand, covered in blood comes out of a house where a dead body with axe marks lies. Still innocent? Sure there might be a 0.0001% chance he is, but come on...

More than 1/1,000,000 pick up a murder weapon at a scene without thinking especially if it was by a loved ones body. Yea blood gets everywhere. Rather crappy example you found there. I think a safe bet is never invest more than your IQ, or a comfortable factor there of.

Furthermore Shaky, I assume you promote BTC? So when a vastly superior alternative takes over and there are loads of BTC bag holders left making it look like the largest ponzi in history, you will be feeling bad? Or from today you'd rather no longer promote BTC?

[ShakyhandsBTCer]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

bitternes? lol

read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.msg8124408#msg8124408

I read it before and thought your brother sounded like an idiot then in all honesty. Maybe he should look at it as an education, after all they cost money too.

Don't you feel back promoting something that is most likely a ponzi?

I think you should!

All are innocent until proven guilty. Do your own due diligence.

It is pretty obvious in this case.

It is like a guy with an axe in the hand, covered in blood comes out of a house where a dead body with axe marks lies. Still innocent? Sure there might be a 0.0001% chance he is, but come on...

More than 1/1,000,000 pick up a murder weapon at a scene without thinking especially if it was by a loved ones body. Yea blood gets everywhere. Rather crappy example you found there. I think a safe bet is never invest more than your IQ, or a comfortable factor there of.

Furthermore Shaky, I assume you promote BTC? So when a vastly superior alternative takes over and there are loads of BTC bag holders left making it look like the largest ponzi in history, you will be feeling bad? Or from today you'd rather no longer promote BTC?

Denial is good thing I guess, keeps you guys happy.

I do not promote BTC, I just like the concept of it. Other than BT bitcoin really does add value to the world and not just scam people.

Well, whatever makes you sleep at night

[Iffy]

my own brother was involved in a Ponzi

He invested $10 with Madoff?

he "invested" in Telexfree, biggest pyramid sceme in Brazilian history

From the bitterness you display I can only assume more was "invested" than could afford to be lost, if not then with all due respect so what. And if so, erm don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Pretty simple game tbh.

bitternes? lol

read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.msg8124408#msg8124408

I read it before and thought your brother sounded like an idiot then in all honesty. Maybe he should look at it as an education, after all they cost money too.

Don't you feel back promoting something that is most likely a ponzi?

I think you should!

All are innocent until proven guilty. Do your own due diligence.

It is pretty obvious in this case.

It is like a guy with an axe in the hand, covered in blood comes out of a house where a dead body with axe marks lies. Still innocent? Sure there might be a 0.0001% chance he is, but come on...

More than 1/1,000,000 pick up a murder weapon at a scene without thinking especially if it was by a loved ones body. Yea blood gets everywhere. Rather crappy example you found there. I think a safe bet is never invest more than your IQ, or a comfortable factor there of.

Furthermore Shaky, I assume you promote BTC? So when a vastly superior alternative takes over and there are loads of BTC bag holders left making it look like the largest ponzi in history, you will be feeling bad? Or from today you'd rather no longer promote BTC?

Denial is good thing I guess, keeps you guys happy.

I do not promote BTC, I just like the concept of it. Other than BT bitcoin really does add value to the world and not just scam people.

Well, whatever makes you sleep at night

LOL you never mention BTC to anyone? I think you just discredited yourself as a probable liar. You feel the promotion that BT has brought to the BTC community the past few months through sponsorship has zero value? Please explain your view on this as I draw a blank when trying to understand your position on it.

[ShakyhandsBTCer]

I am never actively promoting BTC to anyone. Sure if someone wants to discuss bitcoin with me, I will give him honest answers, and not the diluted answers you will get from Bitcoin followers.

BT will end like BTCarbs and the people promoting it have literally no shame.

[Iffy]

Thank you Mystic Peg, I will keep that in mind. 

[sunny1]

Strange how all of a sudden the Dicebitco.in promoters are flooding the BT threads. Posting a lot of FUD, shouting SCAM here and there, while promoting a questionable scheme that is just two weeks or so old. Damn hypocrites!

[Rannasha]

Strange how all of a sudden the Dicebitco.in promoters are flooding the BT threads. Posting a lot of FUD, shouting SCAM here and there, while promoting a questionable scheme that is just two weeks or so old. Damn hypocrites!

I've been calling out BT as a ponzi scheme for way longer than that and I'm not promoting anything

[sunny1]

Strange how all of a sudden the Dicebitco.in promoters are flooding the BT threads. Posting a lot of FUD, shouting SCAM here and there, while promoting a questionable scheme that is just two weeks or so old. Damn hypocrites!

I've been calling out BT as a ponzi scheme for way longer than that and I'm not promoting anything

I didn't talk about you.

[Rannasha]

Strange how all of a sudden the Dicebitco.in promoters are flooding the BT threads. Posting a lot of FUD, shouting SCAM here and there, while promoting a questionable scheme that is just two weeks or so old. Damn hypocrites!

I've been calling out BT as a ponzi scheme for way longer than that and I'm not promoting anything

I didn't talk about you.

No, but you tried to dismiss other posters being critical based on the claim that they're shills for a competing website. By stating that not all posts critical of BT have come from people meeting those criteria, I tried to pull the focus back to the underlying matter: All signs point to BT being a Ponzi scheme and its supporters have provided to substantial reasoning to put doubt to that.