bitcoin-trader.biz

[alani123]

Friendly reminder to everyone that overadvertising is not a good sign for a ponzi. No one can tell for sure what these guys are going to do, but too much adcertising usually means the death of a ponzi is incoming. Why? The answer is simle, the creators try to lure as much people as possible into their scam before they pack their bags and run with everyone's money. This one has been running for quite some time, and still no solid proof that it's not a ponzi/hyip/fractional-reserve-something etc. Even though they claim the oposite...! Be careful with where you put your coins at.

[AndreaC]

How do you quantify over advertising?

[vach]

For everyone in the forum, I'd like to introduce you AndreaC (Andrea Ciceri),
From BT blog i've tried to reach someone who is in the company to answer to our questions. So here she is, ask your questions please. I'm short on time right now but i'll join you later.

Andrea not sure i've understood your question.

(here is the conversation https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdjtqiptqy57xh2/Capture.PNG )

[PilotofBTC]

I just browsed the Bitcoin Trader website, and the trading pool returned 18% last month. There is a new way to cloud mine altcoins called Hashlets by GAWMiners that is currently returning 15% per week paying out daily in bitcoin. GAWMiners is very legit and transparent, running one of the largest mining operations in the world. Minimum investment is $16 and credit cards accepted. Worth a look!

I'm not sure this is comparable. bitcoin-trader returns your principle. The hashlet thing looks like a Scrypt mining contract that mins on the Zenpool multipool. So, I doubt you get your money back.

So, BT, buy a 20% contract, get 18% a week, then after 120 days you get your $20.

Hashlet, Spend $15 for a hashlet, get 15% a week of that? For how long? Do you get your $15 back?

[vach]

Looks nice, just bought 1 hashlet, we'll see how those perform...

[moriartypants]

How do you quantify over advertising?

Hi Andrea.  Thanks for coming to the thread.

One question I have had for a long time is whether or not you can say you have personally met (face to face and not using video chat) John Carley or anyone else who is a non marketing employee of the company?

I haven't kept up with the discussion in the past few weeks but one thing that never seemed to happen is that the people behind the company (the administrators/programmers/bankrollers) ever had any verifiable presence, just representatives who had never met their employers.  (If this has changed in the past few weeks, please clue me in and I apologize.)  Regardless of whether the company is a ponzi or not this just seems shady, especially considering how long its been going on.

[vipgelsi]

How do you quantify over advertising?

Hi Andrea.  Thanks for coming to the thread.

One question I have had for a long time is whether or not you can say you have personally met (face to face and not using video chat) John Carley or anyone else who is a non marketing employee of the company?

I haven't kept up with the discussion in the past few weeks but one thing that never seemed to happen is that the people behind the company (the administrators/programmers/bankrollers) ever had any verifiable presence, just representatives who had never met their employers.  (If this has changed in the past few weeks, please clue me in and I apologize.)  Regardless of whether the company is a ponzi or not this just seems shady, especially considering how long its been going on.

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[TraderThom]

How do you quantify over advertising?

Hi Andrea.  Thanks for coming to the thread.

One question I have had for a long time is whether or not you can say you have personally met (face to face and not using video chat) John Carley or anyone else who is a non marketing employee of the company?

I haven't kept up with the discussion in the past few weeks but one thing that never seemed to happen is that the people behind the company (the administrators/programmers/bankrollers) ever had any verifiable presence, just representatives who had never met their employers.  (If this has changed in the past few weeks, please clue me in and I apologize.)  Regardless of whether the company is a ponzi or not this just seems shady, especially considering how long its been going on.

Hi,my name is Thomas Opperman. I am the PR manager at Bitcoin Trader. My Facebook account is 100006261707339@facebook.com. I have "met" Michael Brandenburg on Skype and I am an employee of BT. The reason for the anonymity of John Carley, Michael Brandenburg and especially the traders is because of security. They all want to minimize the risk of being hacked. The "normal" rules of internet safety gets stretched just a bit to ensure the safety of our clients money,but in extreme cases extreme measures must be taken. We understand that people want a "face" they can trust,but the security factor is the main reason for the anonymity. In the time I have been with BT I have been attacked 3 times because people think I have in some way access to the funds(which I don't). So imagine what the effect would be if the people who do are announced to the public?I hope this is an acceptable answer,but feel free to comment or contact me.

[crazyivan]

How do you quantify over advertising?

Hi Andrea.  Thanks for coming to the thread.

One question I have had for a long time is whether or not you can say you have personally met (face to face and not using video chat) John Carley or anyone else who is a non marketing employee of the company?

I haven't kept up with the discussion in the past few weeks but one thing that never seemed to happen is that the people behind the company (the administrators/programmers/bankrollers) ever had any verifiable presence, just representatives who had never met their employers.  (If this has changed in the past few weeks, please clue me in and I apologize.)  Regardless of whether the company is a ponzi or not this just seems shady, especially considering how long its been going on.

Hi,my name is Thomas Opperman. I am the PR manager at Bitcoin Trader. My Facebook account is 100006261707339@facebook.com. I have "met" Michael Brandenburg on Skype and I am an employee of BT. The reason for the anonymity of John Carley, Michael Brandenburg and especially the traders is because of security. They all want to minimize the risk of being hacked. The "normal" rules of internet safety gets stretched just a bit to ensure the safety of our clients money,but in extreme cases extreme measures must be taken. We understand that people want a "face" they can trust,but the security factor is the main reason for the anonymity. In the time I have been with BT I have been attacked 3 times because people think I have in some way access to the funds(which I don't). So imagine what the effect would be if the people who do are announced to the public?I hope this is an acceptable answer,but feel free to comment or contact me.

Hi Thomas,

I ve been with Bitcoin Treader for almost 6 months and ve been quite happy so far. I can understand the need to keep things private when dealing with large amounts of BTC but I can also understand the desire of lots of potential BT users to get more info about it. There s been a lot of scams online and it has been quite difficult for people to differentiate junk from the real deal. Once more, IMO, I have had great journey with Bitcoin Trader so far and I hope it ll stay profitable for all of us.

A quick question, when you say you are an BT employee, what does that exactly mean? You have some kind of full time contract with them?

[Serpens66]

is bitcoin-trader.biz reachable for you guys? I only get a blank page =/
If it is reachable for you, what could be the problem here ?

[Kakka]

is bitcoin-trader.biz reachable for you guys? I only get a blank page =/
If it is reachable for you, what could be the problem here ?

I have the same problem. I registered to bitcointalk just to ask about it. Only the login and registration pages are missing, the rest of the pages are still there. No earnings report either. Is this the end?

[Serpens66]

is bitcoin-trader.biz reachable for you guys? I only get a blank page =/
If it is reachable for you, what could be the problem here ?

I have the same problem. I registered to bitcointalk just to ask about it. Only the login and registration pages are missing, the rest of the pages are still there. No earnings report either. Is this the end?

ah you are right, I have access to https://bitcoin-trader.biz/results.php but not to https://bitcoin-trader.biz/login.php

[vach]

i moved all funds few days ago

[Acura360]

Stay cool guys. Same Problem here.
Be patient

[kingbit]

Same issue... Kinda spooky

[ranlo]

is bitcoin-trader.biz reachable for you guys? I only get a blank page =/
If it is reachable for you, what could be the problem here ?

I have the same problem. I registered to bitcointalk just to ask about it. Only the login and registration pages are missing, the rest of the pages are still there. No earnings report either. Is this the end?

Earnings report was last made 12 hours ago saying 0.91% for the day.

[vach]

checkout fb group

[Serpens66]

checkout fb group

whats wirtten there? I don't have/want access to this group

[Kakka]

is bitcoin-trader.biz reachable for you guys? I only get a blank page =/
If it is reachable for you, what could be the problem here ?

I have the same problem. I registered to bitcointalk just to ask about it. Only the login and registration pages are missing, the rest of the pages are still there. No earnings report either. Is this the end?

Earnings report was last made 12 hours ago saying 0.91% for the day.

I meant the EMAIL report for actual shares.

[theworldalive]

their is a header on the website saying:
Sorry we currently experiencing server issues. we hope to be back up and recovered shortly.