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[niktitan132]

And it turned out to be a scam...as I thought.

[GSpgh]

And it turned out to be a scam...as I thought.

surprising it lasted so long

i remember i looked at them in may or june and thought this cant be real

sorry for all who lost their money

[PilotofBTC]

And you are here in this forum just to say stuff like this right?

It's good to see that you are happy that people had large sums of money stolen. What a wonderful human being you are.

Rannasha and others, including myself, have made posts explaining that they are a ponzi for awhile. If you read those posts and still invested, you have no one to blame but yourself.

I certainly have no worries. I lost nothing in this game.

But, let's not be a dick. Someone saying they are HAPPY other people lost money is, let's face it, being a dick.

[tmfp]

And you are here in this forum just to say stuff like this right?

It's good to see that you are happy that people had large sums of money stolen. What a wonderful human being you are.

Rannasha and others, including myself, have made posts explaining that they are a ponzi for awhile. If you read those posts and still invested, you have no one to blame but yourself.

I certainly have no worries. I lost nothing in this game.

But, let's not be a dick. Someone saying they are HAPPY other people lost money is, let's face it, being a dick.

Rannasha was just having a little joke with words that got blown out of proportion. The only person to use the word HAPPY is you, so I guess you're the dick.


One slightly surprising thing that has come out is that BT did actually approach an accountancy firm about having a proof of solvency audit done, according to one of the FB sleuth sites.
In reply to the enquiry:

"..One of the UK investors by the name of Isaac contacted John Carley and Michael Brandenberg from Bitcoin Trader to ask if they knew an accountant he could use for his personal tax implications regarding his investments with Bitcoin Trader.
Isaac was given your details...."

The Accountancy firm responded:

"Many thanks for your email. I spoke to Isaac earlier this week regarding the same.
From our records, I can see an email exchange between John Carley and our director, Hasib in late July/early August, and subsequently a phone call with Mr Brandenberg at the beginning of August. The business was enquiring as to whether we could provide proof of solvency. The decision was made that the work was too risky, and not covered by our insurance. Thereafter, we did not have any further interaction with John or Michael.
Kind regards,
Chris
Howlader & Co"

[ranlo]

Can Thomas or Michael provide any details on any of the methods used to pay for any of the expenses?

Thomas posted this earlier:

[Digicoinz]

Idk if this is helpful but on another thread someone posted BTs address as he was told by bradenburg

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393570.0

The address he posted is:

Calle 53, Marbella, Av José de la Cruz Herrera, Panama

I'm a victim of BT as well, hopefully our efforts will find these scum and bring them to their knees.

Moreover they had told me that they would be doing a "software update in October" through a support ticket I had with them a couple months prior to this event. Some update that was ><

[Centaurus]

updated:

icecreamgenius  = $40k
joystickj = $37k
Casimir1904 = $25k
Karsten Holland = $8760

Updating:

icecreamgenius  = $40k
joystickj = $37k
Casimir1904 = $25k
pawlo74 = $12k
c0c0 = $10k
Karsten Holland = $8760
Centaurus = $5k
Attie707 = $2k

[Centaurus]

Hi everyone,
I did not loose a lot; but I was very close in investing $2k.
...
We can use this payment details to track the bank...

Maybe he have used a hacked credit card

[ranlo]

updated:

icecreamgenius  = $40k
joystickj = $37k
Casimir1904 = $25k
Karsten Holland = $8760

Updating:

icecreamgenius  = $40k
joystickj = $37k
Casimir1904 = $25k
Karsten Holland = $8760
c0c0 = $10k
pawlo74 = $12k
Centaurus = $5k

$1.8k here

[Centaurus]

Even if the WhoisGuard anonymous registration is lifted, there is likely a registration with invalid information under it.
...
Can Thomas or Michael provide any details on any of the methods used to pay for any of the expenses?

Who bought the car?
Where is the car?
To whom is the car registered?

[sunny1]

Even if the WhoisGuard anonymous registration is lifted, there is likely a registration with invalid information under it.
...
Can Thomas or Michael provide any details on any of the methods used to pay for any of the expenses?

Who bought the car?
Where is the car?
To whom is the car registered?

The car is not for them, they just sponsored the event.

[Centaurus]

So everyone human being that drives a "new" car is greedy? Anyone that has a TV bigger than 32" is greedy? Any woman that gets a manicure is greedy? Those things are certainly beyond basic survival and comfort. I certainly have no desire for status or power. The only desire I have for "wealth" is just to be able to retire some day in an average sized home and not have to rely on my government or anybody else to take care of me or my family. Does that make me greedy?

Here's another Wikipedia link for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Haha!  We are obviously wasting our time arguing about the use of a word that we are never going to agree about. You think greed is wanting anything more than communism would provide for. I think greed only deals with taking "more than you need" so other people can't have it.
Back to work guys! To redefine Atlas Shrugged: "Who is John Carley?"

I am very greedy when I wish to ace the exams.

[varChar]

updated:

icecreamgenius  = $40k
joystickj = $37k
Casimir1904 = $25k
Karsten Holland = $8760

Updating:

icecreamgenius  = $40k
joystickj = $37k
Casimir1904 = $25k
Karsten Holland = $8760
c0c0 = $10k
pawlo74 = $12k
Centaurus = $5k

$1.8k here

Had 2 accounts with share's of a total of $14.5k (not this nick). But it is with some purchases of new shares with some earnings I had. So my total amount that I actually took from my private savings isn't that mutch. But "close" to. I'll need to look how mutch of my private money I lost.

[ranlo]

New info, from FB:

[ranlo]

snip

Go back a page, that's where it came from.

Hm? Just went back 3 pages. Not seeing anything related to this at all... just stuff dealing with business registration and the supposed audit.

[tmfp]

snip

Go back a page, that's where it came from.

Hm? Just went back 3 pages. Not seeing anything related to this at all... just stuff dealing with business registration and the supposed audit.

Yeah, my bad sorry 

Be interesting to see where that goes....

[Centaurus]

If someone is filing a case at the local police within the EU, let us know your the case number to put them together.

I will go to the police in my country

[sunny1]

New info, from FB:

That is probably the best lead yet. Can't be a coincidence.

[bitcoinaarush]

If someone is filing a case at the local police within the EU, let us know your the case number to put them together.

I will go to the police in my country

Can police interefere with bitcoin business?

[xxxgoodgirls]

lol it's getting amazing