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April 24, 2014, 12:08:49 AM
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Is it just my version or did everyone's say Beta on the top too?
I don't think there even needed to be a reimbursement.

despite that, the positive PR from a swift refund would be worth more than 7BTC to counterparty as a whole


/x/post to /r/bitcoinmarkets might be good too

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April 24, 2014, 12:12:16 AM
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To Xnova, PP and Cityglut:

I think this is big, for the core counterparty founders to come out of the dark. My thoughts are given the current environment, for a platform like counterparty to be taken seriously by the "business" community the need to put a face(s) behind the project is essential. Now that the core founders can come out openly and talk about the project, there is an increased accountability and the potential for more exposure (i.e via talk, interviews, conferences, etc)

May I be the first to say, thank you Robby, Adam and Evan (of the counterparty founders)

Cheers

Yes. Thank you Counterparty Team and best wishes for continued growth and success. Inside Bitcoins HK looks like an excellent opportunity!

These guys are extremely talented, and have built some impressive technology.  Glad y’all came out, and we wish you all the best!

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April 24, 2014, 12:57:03 AM
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When I go to the Blockscan.com page I get redirected to google! is it just me? It's weird as it's a new laptop I bought purposely to never download anything on or ever use sites with Iframe on so I don't believe it can be a virus.
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April 24, 2014, 01:09:26 AM
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It's definitely unique to you - there are viruses that will redirect your browser though why they would work in such an obvious fashion is beyond me, are you using windows?
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April 24, 2014, 01:24:05 AM
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Thanks for reply, yes it's windows 8 I think it's got to be from an exploit I'm really careful about what I download and will even only watch youtube. I've been looking at every site relating  to mastercoin (but haven't clicked on a single executable from any of their stuff) and counterwallet + blockscan that's about it.

Porqupine are you on the list I'm wondering if its related that's all? also if anyone else on the list could say if they're having this issue.

It's definitely unique to you - there are viruses that will redirect your browser though why they would work in such an obvious fashion is beyond me, are you using windows?

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April 24, 2014, 01:35:28 AM
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When I go to the Blockscan.com page I get redirected to google! is it just me? It's weird as it's a new laptop I bought purposely to never download anything on or ever use sites with Iframe on so I don't believe it can be a virus.

Thanks for reply, yes it's windows 8 I think it's got to be from an exploit I'm really careful about what I download and will even only watch youtube. I've been looking at every site relating  to mastercoin (but haven't clicked on a single executable from any of their stuff) and counterwallet + blockscan that's about it.


maybe mastercoin foundation hackers managed to compromise counterparty mainframe by uploading malicous file: mastercoin-wallet-preview.jpg.exe. once first stage was complete and they breached the firewall defense system they whipped up a quick visual basic gui to gain a list of targets (counterparty supporters) which they are now selectively redirecting to google as a subtle yet genius form of pyschological warfare

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April 24, 2014, 02:20:33 AM
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When I go to the Blockscan.com page I get redirected to google! is it just me? It's weird as it's a new laptop I bought purposely to never download anything on or ever use sites with Iframe on so I don't believe it can be a virus.

Thanks for reply, yes it's windows 8 I think it's got to be from an exploit I'm really careful about what I download and will even only watch youtube. I've been looking at every site relating  to mastercoin (but haven't clicked on a single executable from any of their stuff) and counterwallet + blockscan that's about it.


maybe mastercoin foundation hackers managed to compromise counterparty mainframe by uploading malicous file: mastercoin-wallet-preview.jpg.exe. once first stage was complete and they breached the firewall defense system they whipped up a quick visual basic gui to gain a list of targets (counterparty supporters) which they are now selectively redirecting to google as a subtle yet genius form of pyschological warfare


alright, alright get your point lol

Have been extremely careful with this computer in the 6 weeks I've had it so can't understand how I've got a virus unless its an exploit from a site.
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April 24, 2014, 02:51:38 AM
Last edit: April 24, 2014, 03:11:34 AM by frozen123
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Agree with the  reimbursement plan .

The Counterparty team shows the great responsibility.

I represent coingifts sent a donation (30XCP) to the Counterparty Team.

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April 24, 2014, 03:35:32 AM
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Sending 20 XCP to help with reimbursement.

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April 24, 2014, 04:27:18 AM
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Is it just my version or did everyone's say Beta on the top too?
I don't think there even needed to be a reimbursement.

despite that, the positive PR from a swift refund would be worth more than 7BTC to counterparty as a whole


/x/post to /r/bitcoinmarkets might be good too

Where does the 7 BTC figure come from? I know that I had just over 12.5 BTC stolen from my account alone.

I'll concede that while Counterparty itself is in beta mode, this bug allowed others to discover private keys to bitcoin addresses, and empty those accounts of bitcoins as well, not just of XCP. In fact, I was actually using Counterwallet to sell my last XCP. How could I have reasonably expected that a Counterparty-related bug would result in the loss of $6,000 worth of a totally different currency (bitcoin)? Nor did I have any reason to follow the Counterparty thread, including announcement of the security breach, because I no longer owned any XCP. Why would I follow the "news" of a crypto I no longer have holdings of?

I think reimbursement for lost funds--lost due to a flaw in the counterwallet software--is vital. It would be one thing if the loss was merely XCP--a "beta" level cryptocurrency--but losing BTC is a whole different ballgame. Additionally, what do you all think would happen to Counterparty if the Bitcoin devs decided it was a risk to the main blockchain (the BITCOIN blockchain)? Sure, it's tolerated and even accepted now--but only so long as it doesn't interfere with the integrity and performance of its "host."

Still waiting to hear on my reimbursement request from devs. Will keep everyone updated.

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April 24, 2014, 04:36:14 AM
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Where does the 7 BTC figure come from? I know that I had just over 12.5 BTC stolen from my account alone.


It came from this tx https://blockchain.info/tx/474cce51a9c4b265d4da0257acb21a554563fd41200970996e2b8914dc6f1d68
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April 24, 2014, 04:48:09 AM
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Is it just my version or did everyone's say Beta on the top too?
I don't think there even needed to be a reimbursement.

despite that, the positive PR from a swift refund would be worth more than 7BTC to counterparty as a whole


/x/post to /r/bitcoinmarkets might be good too

Where does the 7 BTC figure come from? I know that I had just over 12.5 BTC stolen from my account alone.

I'll concede that while Counterparty itself is in beta mode, this bug allowed others to discover private keys to bitcoin addresses, and empty those accounts of bitcoins as well, not just of XCP. In fact, I was actually using Counterwallet to sell my last XCP. How could I have reasonably expected that a Counterparty-related bug would result in the loss of $6,000 worth of a totally different currency (bitcoin)? Nor did I have any reason to follow the Counterparty thread, including announcement of the security breach, because I no longer owned any XCP. Why would I follow the "news" of a crypto I no longer have holdings of?

I think reimbursement for lost funds--lost due to a flaw in the counterwallet software--is vital. It would be one thing if the loss was merely XCP--a "beta" level cryptocurrency--but losing BTC is a whole different ballgame. Additionally, what do you all think would happen to Counterparty if the Bitcoin devs decided it was a risk to the main blockchain (the BITCOIN blockchain)? Sure, it's tolerated and even accepted now--but only so long as it doesn't interfere with the integrity and performance of its "host."

Still waiting to hear on my reimbursement request from devs. Will keep everyone updated.

The delay in sending the funds is due to the fact that we are trying to be quite sure of our accounting, as we want to make sure we don't send funds to the affected addresses. We appreciate your patience.
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April 24, 2014, 04:52:46 AM
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Is it just my version or did everyone's say Beta on the top too?
I don't think there even needed to be a reimbursement.

despite that, the positive PR from a swift refund would be worth more than 7BTC to counterparty as a whole


/x/post to /r/bitcoinmarkets might be good too

Where does the 7 BTC figure come from? I know that I had just over 12.5 BTC stolen from my account alone.

I'll concede that while Counterparty itself is in beta mode, this bug allowed others to discover private keys to bitcoin addresses, and empty those accounts of bitcoins as well, not just of XCP. In fact, I was actually using Counterwallet to sell my last XCP. How could I have reasonably expected that a Counterparty-related bug would result in the loss of $6,000 worth of a totally different currency (bitcoin)? Nor did I have any reason to follow the Counterparty thread, including announcement of the security breach, because I no longer owned any XCP. Why would I follow the "news" of a crypto I no longer have holdings of?

I think reimbursement for lost funds--lost due to a flaw in the counterwallet software--is vital. It would be one thing if the loss was merely XCP--a "beta" level cryptocurrency--but losing BTC is a whole different ballgame. Additionally, what do you all think would happen to Counterparty if the Bitcoin devs decided it was a risk to the main blockchain (the BITCOIN blockchain)? Sure, it's tolerated and even accepted now--but only so long as it doesn't interfere with the integrity and performance of its "host."

Still waiting to hear on my reimbursement request from devs. Will keep everyone updated.

Personally, I'm wondering why anybody would transfer that much BTC to a Counterparty wallet address.  Sure, the Counterparty wallet can handle BTC, but standalone Bitcoin clients are generally going to be safer than anything still under active development.  Transfer enough BTC to pay the transaction fees to send your XCP, but 12BTC is surely overkill for all but the most active Counterparty users.  JMHO.

@devs: If it's not already instituted, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have a warning not to import much BTC (say more than 0.5BTC?) into the XCP wallet.  Users can always replenish with more later, if necessary.  Maybe even a hard limit in the Counterparty web wallet that won't allow people to sweep more than 0.5BTC at a time.  For the time being, at least.... it seems like a better idea than paying out of pocket to reimburse people every time a new flaw is discovered.

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DRK XvFhRFQwvBAmFkaii6Kafmu6oXrH4dSkVF
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April 24, 2014, 05:13:25 AM
Last edit: April 24, 2014, 07:50:59 AM by qtgwith
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Is it just my version or did everyone's say Beta on the top too?
I don't think there even needed to be a reimbursement.

despite that, the positive PR from a swift refund would be worth more than 7BTC to counterparty as a whole


/x/post to /r/bitcoinmarkets might be good too

Where does the 7 BTC figure come from? I know that I had just over 12.5 BTC stolen from my account alone.

I'll concede that while Counterparty itself is in beta mode, this bug allowed others to discover private keys to bitcoin addresses, and empty those accounts of bitcoins as well, not just of XCP. In fact, I was actually using Counterwallet to sell my last XCP. How could I have reasonably expected that a Counterparty-related bug would result in the loss of $6,000 worth of a totally different currency (bitcoin)? Nor did I have any reason to follow the Counterparty thread, including announcement of the security breach, because I no longer owned any XCP. Why would I follow the "news" of a crypto I no longer have holdings of?

I think reimbursement for lost funds--lost due to a flaw in the counterwallet software--is vital. It would be one thing if the loss was merely XCP--a "beta" level cryptocurrency--but losing BTC is a whole different ballgame. Additionally, what do you all think would happen to Counterparty if the Bitcoin devs decided it was a risk to the main blockchain (the BITCOIN blockchain)? Sure, it's tolerated and even accepted now--but only so long as it doesn't interfere with the integrity and performance of its "host."

Still waiting to hear on my reimbursement request from devs. Will keep everyone updated.

Personally, I'm wondering why anybody would transfer that much BTC to a Counterparty wallet address.  Sure, the Counterparty wallet can handle BTC, but standalone Bitcoin clients are generally going to be safer than anything still under active development.  Transfer enough BTC to pay the transaction fees to send your XCP, but 12BTC is surely overkill for all but the most active Counterparty users.  JMHO.

@devs: If it's not already instituted, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have a warning not to import much BTC (say more than 0.5BTC?) into the XCP wallet.  Users can always replenish with more later, if necessary.  Maybe even a hard limit in the Counterparty web wallet that won't allow people to sweep more than 0.5BTC at a time.  For the time being, at least.... it seems like a better idea than paying out of pocket to reimburse people every time a new flaw is discovered.

No need to reimburse. Find this "Counterwallet is beta software. Please report any/all bugs. Please note the Counterparty team cannot be held responsible for lost or stolen funds."

Other, It's more convenient using BTC in counterwallet and I have much BTC in counterwallet.
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April 24, 2014, 05:24:35 AM
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No need to reimburse. Find this "Counterwallet is beta software. Please report any/all bugs. Please note the Counterparty team cannot be held responsible for lost or stolen funds."

I know they're not obligated to, but they are doing it anyway, which perhaps has created expectations that any future breaches will also be reimbursed.

BTC/XCP 11596GYYq5WzVHoHTmYZg4RufxxzAGEGBX
DRK XvFhRFQwvBAmFkaii6Kafmu6oXrH4dSkVF
Eligius Payouts/CPPSRB Explained  I am not associated with Eligius in any way.  I just think that it is a good pool with a cool payment system Smiley
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April 24, 2014, 09:18:24 AM
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Reimbursement from their own pockets is the most honorable behavior possible, especially in cryptoland.

On the contrary, do you think Mastercoin will ever think to reimburse every people that were stucked with unwanted MSC bought for maidsafe IPO ?...

Do you think major exchanges reimbursed people from their own pockets ? Remember MtGox ?

CONGRATS to Counterparty devs. People know that when shit happens, devs will repair, technically and financially. Confidence is the key.
Counterparty devs have perfectly led the incident : Public announcement, patch in less than few hours, reimbursement...And Community proposed to donate more !
What can we expect more ? Classic Devs in altcoins would have easily said "It's beta", "The protocol is not affected, so we won't reimburse" or "You were idiots to have so much money on a web wallet". They didn't.

That's why there are 3 IPO starting by the way
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April 24, 2014, 11:21:14 AM
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What does it mean if an order match is expired?
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April 24, 2014, 11:45:53 AM
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What does it mean if an order match is expired?
The order duration is determined by an amount of yet to be mined blocks. Expired = amount of blocks has been reached without execution/match.
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April 24, 2014, 11:59:28 AM
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What does it mean if an order match is expired?
The order duration is determined by an amount of yet to be mined blocks. Expired = amount of blocks has been reached without execution/match.

Order match expired means:

* There was an "order match" between 2 orders
* One order involved the payment of BTC
* The side that was supposed to pay BTC did not do so within the required timeframe after the order match

Therefore the "order match" expired.
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April 24, 2014, 01:10:11 PM
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What does it mean if an order match is expired?
The order duration is determined by an amount of yet to be mined blocks. Expired = amount of blocks has been reached without execution/match.

So does this

297446   Apr 24th 2014, 1:55:21 pm      Order Match Exp      Order Match d66580a4124e479e84626e116acb4af80787354adc8bf48fadcfac11a091d98863eda009dffb73c 84c0a57d864046ce173dc035b64034eee4b56df15f37ee760 expired

Mean, that someone was willing to pay the amount I wanted to have for my XCP, but the buy order expired? I don´t really get it.
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