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Author Topic: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer  (Read 1232511 times)
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May 21, 2014, 03:28:16 PM
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I feel that people who mining .... or steal electricity or steal coins  Grin

Who sells at this price
I like VTC, it's saved my GPU's from becoming paperweights.
That said, I don't "hold" VTC, as im still trying to eek-out my ROI for my rigs.
Thus, I mine and then I sell at market.
Not trying to be mean, once I reach ROI I would probably hold the coin, but for now I need to pay back my account to keep my wife happy.
She's expecting regular payments comming back in from the equipment.

but ... ... wait... you mean you have free electricity or THAT cheap? Since I see no other reason how you could get roi with this price against electricity mining cost...
So if you doing this way you are lucky man living in place where you afraid not of electricity costs....

for me its like 0.23$ per kwh + I pay monthly costs of landing room + lpg in around 400 usd .... :/ So honestly if I would cash out from every coin I mined since a longer while till now then it would be like losing loads of usd daily because of mining... in this way if I had choice mine and sell vs turn off rigs ... yes the second choice would have more sense :/

So shit... I put all under vert... we will see if will be screwed by luck or will somehow get soon or later costs Sad

Anyway sad... very sad looking how so many ... many ... last days just selling "loads" of verts Sad pretty honestly could say "loaaads" of them Sad
Dont know if this is kind of losing trust... or just eager to cash out while btc has little bigger value... or maybe really temprary out to invest in other coin...

Generally I know one thing... Until more then 1 bigger investor... more like at least few will get into vert... we wont see rising price... And if we see ONLY losing the price then even those who not much care of price will simply stop believing... thats how the world work... and even if we wish other way we wont change it Sad

I as myself currently lost ideas how to do anything good to make all better here... its not dependant on me as I noticed last days ... whenever I asked something important (I believe was) I was crushed...

Anyway... I am sure all of you know well - if price fall hard... even more will dump bigger amounts... ANY ideas from anyone to at least stop the trend? Or we all just deciding to watch this movie ?Sad

My electric is $0.091/KWh.
I only earn about 1-2 VTC per day, so im not dumping some huge quantity.
Im pretty close to ROI anyhow, maybe another month.
I started in Jan and told my wife I would have ROI in  100 days. Well, I blew that date, but closing in on it now.
I don't think she tracks the electric that close anyhow, mainly just wants me to put back into the account what I took out to buy the rigs.
On a side note, ive never been able to get decent hashrates from my GPUs. Ive tried tuning them, but not much luck. My R8-280x cards generate about 215KHs, is that pretty normal?
Almost forgot to add, but Kill-o-Watt shows that Scrypt-N uses a lot less power than Scrypt, so that's a plus also.

that's pretty bad hash you got there, you should try this, the core make the big difference

1040 core /1500 mem, -g 2 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13(same as regular scrypt)
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May 21, 2014, 03:36:28 PM
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that's pretty bad hash you got there, you should try this, the core make the big difference

1040 core /1500 mem, -g 2 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13(same as regular scrypt)
Im running the following, which seems pretty close to what you say.
"api-listen" : true,
"expiry" : "1",
"no-submit-stale" : true,
"scan-time" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "1050",
"gpu-fan" : "0-85",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"intensity" : "13",
"temp-target" : "85",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "1",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "8193",
"no-pool-disable" : true
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May 21, 2014, 03:41:19 PM
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that's pretty bad hash you got there, you should try this, the core make the big difference

1040 core /1500 mem, -g 2 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13(same as regular scrypt)
Im running the following, which seems pretty close to what you say.
"api-listen" : true,
"expiry" : "1",
"no-submit-stale" : true,
"scan-time" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "1050",
"gpu-fan" : "0-85",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"intensity" : "13",
"temp-target" : "85",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "1",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "8193",
"no-pool-disable" : true

Try the following, I manage to get 350kh on my 7970s/280x's on sgminer-4.1.271:

"api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1",
"api-listen" : true,
"expiry" : "5",
"failover-only" : true,
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"no-submit-stale" : true,
"queue" : "0",
"scan-time" : "5",
"gpu-threads" : "2",
"gpu-engine" : "1050",
"gpu-fan" : "60",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-reorder" : true,
"intensity" : "13",
"temp-target" : "80",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"shaders" : "0",
"thread-concurrency" : "8192",
"scrypt" : true,
"MinerID" : "0",
"no-pool-disable" : true
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May 21, 2014, 03:42:11 PM
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that's pretty bad hash you got there, you should try this, the core make the big difference

1040 core /1500 mem, -g 2 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13(same as regular scrypt)
Im running the following, which seems pretty close to what you say.
"api-listen" : true,
"expiry" : "1",
"no-submit-stale" : true,
"scan-time" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "1050",
"gpu-fan" : "0-85",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"intensity" : "13",
"temp-target" : "85",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "1",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "8193",
"no-pool-disable" : true

with my setting i get about 373kh/s, just using this in cgminer

-g 2 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 with that core and mem settings

try TC 8192 instead of 8193 and 1040 core instead of 1050
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May 21, 2014, 04:21:49 PM
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Do any other have problem with:

vert.bitcrush.info - VTC Mining Pool


I can not get any confirmation email for cash out or for change account settings.
(do not ask to check spam filter / trash can. They are not there.)

I have tried to contact pool admin using contact form in the pool and also via normal email (admin@....  ). No answer.

After registering account get normally confirmation email and also first time I change account settings (add VTC address this email confirmation works just ok.  This time I forget set auto cash out. Then I have tried change settings and also for manual cash out. Can not because no confirmation email for this.

Of course I have immediately stopped mining there and changed my rigs to other pool (until this problem is solved).

If some other have been troubles inside some last days how you have solved confirmation email problems?


This do not look very good:

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This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:

     admin@bitcrush.info

Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)

Technical details of temporary failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain bitcrush.info by mail.bitcrush.info. [162.243.211.228].

The error that the other server returned was:
451 Temporary local problem - please try later

Can not cash out, can not change account details.
Really nice?

Still continue.

Can not contact to pool admin.
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Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

     admin@bitcrush.info

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain bitcrush.info by mail.bitcrush.info. [162.243.211.228].

The error that the other server returned was:
451 Temporary local problem - please try later

Confirmation emails for cash out - not work.
Confirmation email for change account details (example auto payout) do not work.



Do any one know if there is any other possibility to contact this pool admin(s) for solve this problem.

I want cash out my coins but can not due to this problem what continues day after day.

This looks more and more like scam. Least really really bad service.

What to do?

If I can, I change my some other email box if it works better BUT can not because can not change account details.

Is it possible that some miner in this pool who can contact pool admin send message to him that his mailbox do not work in all cases. Perhaps he have not get any my messages?  So he perhaps do not know about this problem. (If he have not read this forum)



Guess what I've got today.

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:

     admin@bitcrush.info

Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)

Technical details of temporary failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain bitcrush.info by mail.bitcrush.info. [162.243.211.228].

The error that the other server returned was:
451 Temporary local problem - please try later

 So what to do really? I think I saw his messages here on the forum to promote his pool. Maybe try to find it and pm him?

Same here.

But it looks like even if you find this pool admin, he do nothing.

I have small amount of VTC there and can not cash out.

If I did not test manual cash out I have there more. It was just before I start my other rigs there.
Of course after I find that I can not cash out, immediately I stop mining there and move my rigs to other pool.

But still I want believe that this bitcrush pool admin is not thief... because I'm not 100% sure about this pool admin nickname here I will not publish it (yet) before more deep investigations.




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May 21, 2014, 04:26:29 PM
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand.
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May 21, 2014, 04:37:11 PM
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand.
https://i.imgur.com/pLIFsqy.jpg
Please disable in AMD-CCC grafic-overdrive.

The GPU-core depends on the vendor of your hardware: i'm using a r9 280x from powercolor(a cheap vendor) and have a GPU-core of 970 with 330kh/s.
On Sapphire cards i'm using a gpu-core of 1050 with 350kh/s.

diff of 20kh/s => at atm price ~ 22$ per yeah diff Tongue but costs me 50 bucks less when buying new => 2 years ROI Wink
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May 21, 2014, 04:39:03 PM
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with my setting i get about 373kh/s, just using this in cgminer

-g 2 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 with that core and mem settings

try TC 8192 instead of 8193 and 1040 core instead of 1050
Changed the TC to 8192 and engine to 1040. Ran about the same, maybe 1% worse than with 1050. I don't think the TC change had any effect.
The -g 2 option killed things totally though, it's terrible with that option. One card basically is crap with this option, the other runs, but slower.
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May 21, 2014, 04:40:31 PM
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand.

Please disable in AMD-CCC grafic-overdrive.

The GPU-core depends on the vendor of your hardware: i'm using a r9 280x from powercolor(a cheap vendor) and have a GPU-core of 970 with 330kh/s.
On Sapphire cards i'm using a gpu-core of 1050 with 350kh/s.

diff of 20kh/s => at atm price ~ 22$ per yeah diff Tongue but costs me 50 bucks less when buying new => 2 years ROI Wink
I don't recall the brand offhand, could be PowerColor...
I can check when I get home.
About the AMD-CCC thingy, how/where does one disable this (and re-enable if it doesn't help)?
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May 21, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand.

Looks like RAM issue. How much RAM do you have? You need about 4Gb (up to 3 GPU)
Try to swap RAM modules between slots (disconnect power cable when doing this).

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May 21, 2014, 05:20:50 PM
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand.

Looks like RAM issue. How much RAM do you have? You need about 4Gb (up to 3 GPU)
Try to swap RAM modules between slots (disconnect power cable when doing this).


I have a single 4Gb stick.
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May 21, 2014, 05:22:14 PM
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand.

Looks like RAM issue. How much RAM do you have? You need about 4Gb (up to 3 GPU)
Try to swap RAM modules between slots (disconnect power cable when doing this).


I have a single 4Gb stick.

insert it into another slot or try a different one
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May 21, 2014, 05:51:52 PM
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand.
https://i.imgur.com/pLIFsqy.jpg
Please disable in AMD-CCC grafic-overdrive.

The GPU-core depends on the vendor of your hardware: i'm using a r9 280x from powercolor(a cheap vendor) and have a GPU-core of 970 with 330kh/s.
On Sapphire cards i'm using a gpu-core of 1050 with 350kh/s.

diff of 20kh/s => at atm price ~ 22$ per yeah diff Tongue but costs me 50 bucks less when buying new => 2 years ROI Wink
I don't recall the brand offhand, could be PowerColor...
I can check when I get home.
About the AMD-CCC thingy, how/where does one disable this (and re-enable if it doesn't help)?
Right click on desktop => AMD-Catalyst Control Center (CCC) => Performance => AMD Overdrive => remove checkbox "Enable GraphicsOverdrive" => done Smiley
Got me 3 brand new grey hairs till i found out what was wrong Tongue
Those "OverDrive" tuned the card down and "re-adjusted" my mining settings... *AAARRGGHHHhhhh...* Cheesy

And as i wrote above: every vendor has its own "sweet spot"... not every time is more = more hashes Smiley
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May 21, 2014, 06:04:54 PM
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Right click on desktop => AMD-Catalyst Control Center (CCC) => Performance => AMD Overdrive => remove checkbox "Enable GraphicsOverdrive" => done Smiley
Got me 3 brand new grey hairs till i found out what was wrong Tongue
Those "OverDrive" tuned the card down and "re-adjusted" my mining settings... *AAARRGGHHHhhhh...* Cheesy

And as i wrote above: every vendor has its own "sweet spot"... not every time is more = more hashes Smiley
It was already off (unchecked).
I guess I never turned it on. When I went in there it first asked me to accept license agreement, which implies I never used it previously.
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May 21, 2014, 07:41:42 PM
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If using Windows, get a second 4gb stick...4gb is enough for linux, barely cuts it for win.
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May 21, 2014, 07:48:10 PM
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If using Windows, get a second 4gb stick...4gb is enough for linux, barely cuts it for win.

Really don't get this memory thing.  I have eight rigs, each with four cards, all running (linux) with 1GB.  Vertminer never uses over 250mb, including caches.  Adding unused ram isn't going to do anything.

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May 21, 2014, 08:10:37 PM
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I've added PLX tracking and payment capabilities to the proxypool code, it works the same way as MON does. If you're mining on my node, please send me your VTC and PLX address if you'd like to also receive PLX, by mail to the node email address or by PM here. I'm confident tracking is working, payments should work too but will need to find a block first for confirmation.

I'm at work now but will try to add PLX to the front-end this evening, and then if I have time this weekend I'll push it to github for anyone interested.


VTC/MON/PLX p2pool Node
Running on the third second VTC p2pool Network, very low DOA rates and stable, restarted this morning to add PLX and switch network.
MON balance is currently positive so you'll get paid as soon as you hit the threshold for payouts.
Fee: 0.5%

Frontends:
MON/VTC: http://109.24.254.169/proxypool/
Traditional: http://109.24.254.169:9172/static/

To connect your miner use the following setting:

"url" : "stratum+tcp://109.24.254.169:9555",
"user" : "<Vertcoin Address>",
"pass" : "<Monocle Address>"

Update: IT'S WORKING  Grin

I've successfully updated the proxypool payout script and sharelogging as well as the frontend in order to handle PLX. You can see it in action by following the link in my signature.

I just tested the transactions by sending 15 PLX to the p2pool account, and the script immediately sent me my due of 7.9 PLX. It also correctly tagged shares as paid. I can't find a block explorer for PLX so at the moment the transaction hash link is a dead-end, but the sum is correct.

Feel free to hop on if you want to triple mine but also support the p2pool. I'll try to get the code available this weekend but I'll be a bit low on time..
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May 21, 2014, 08:18:41 PM
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If using Windows, get a second 4gb stick...4gb is enough for linux, barely cuts it for win.

Really don't get this memory thing.  I have eight rigs, each with four cards, all running (linux) with 1GB.  Vertminer never uses over 250mb, including caches.  Adding unused ram isn't going to do anything.

with win is different you know, you just open 4 chrome page and bam 2.5 gb, also when i'm mining and i reach 4gb+(because i open multiple chrome page or other things) the system tell me there is insufficient memory and i have 8gb total

maybe he reserve 4gb for the gpu
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May 21, 2014, 08:40:15 PM
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Not kidding, it won't work...I run both win and linux mining rigs. (curecoin needs win for now :/)
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May 22, 2014, 01:29:28 AM
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If using Windows, get a second 4gb stick...4gb is enough for linux, barely cuts it for win.

Really don't get this memory thing.  I have eight rigs, each with four cards, all running (linux) with 1GB.  Vertminer never uses over 250mb, including caches.  Adding unused ram isn't going to do anything.
In windows the amd libraries compile the opencl file for the cards as one big (memory)image and upload that to the cards. If you don't have enough memory one or more cards won't start. Once the miner is running it uses hardly any memory at all.
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