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Author Topic: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer  (Read 1232497 times)
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June 27, 2014, 10:13:04 AM
Last edit: June 27, 2014, 10:26:53 AM by gonzzo
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Vertans goes to http://x11.greenpool.tk/ --> diff reduces --> VTC become more profitable to be mined by multipools.
And now we have rediculous situation - multipools mine VTC to sell it and vertans mine x11 to by VTC...
I see something wrong here.

I have only one questions - these people who mine on multipool scrypt-n - they live in parallel word or what?..
We must find everyone of them and teach some math, or just kick their asses, or both

i  also see big problems here:

1. what DarkAGeS says
2. if the x11 vtc miners will sell the coins (and some will most definitely) we have even more sell pressure ..

i think mining x11 coins, sell them and buy scrypt-n hashes to mine vtc is a much better solution:

1. the diff is not going down that much -> less interesting for multipools
2. you still support the vtc network because you are still mining vtc (if you mine with your own workers, or if you buy hashes to mine is almost the same)

think about it and choose wisely if you realy wanna support vtc over another algo!
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June 27, 2014, 10:32:30 AM
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Vertans goes to http://x11.greenpool.tk/ --> diff reduces --> VTC become more profitable to be mined by multipools.
And now we have rediculous situation - multipools mine VTC to sell it and vertans mine x11 to by VTC...
I see something wrong here.

I have only one questions - these people who mine on multipool scrypt-n - they live in parallel word or what?..
We must find everyone of them and teach some math, or just kick their asses, or both

i  also see big problems here:

1. what DarkAGeS says
2. if the x11 vtc miners will sell the coins (and some will most definitely) we have even more sell pressure ..

i think mining x11 coins, sell them and buy scrypt-n hashes to mine vtc is a much better solution:

1. the diff is not going down that much -> less interesting for multipools
2. you still support the vtc network because you are still mining vtc (if you mine with your own workers, or if you buy hashes to mine is almost the same)

think about it and choose wisely if you realy wanna support vtc over another algo!

number of mined coins if allways the same isnt it ? it will just be in better hands Wink
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June 27, 2014, 02:18:53 PM
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You're not necessarily losing VTC hash when people join greenpool. People like myself who were forced to turn their rigs off in the summer can now turn them back on and give VTC support.

Again the best solution to all of this is education. We need to get the miners mining VTC to understand it's concepts and direction and they'll be more likely to hold onto the coin.
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June 27, 2014, 03:01:15 PM
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Vertans goes to http://x11.greenpool.tk/ --> diff reduces --> VTC become more profitable to be mined by multipools.
And now we have rediculous situation - multipools mine VTC to sell it and vertans mine x11 to by VTC...
I see something wrong here.

I have only one questions - these people who mine on multipool scrypt-n - they live in parallel word or what?..
We must find everyone of them and teach some math, or just kick their asses, or both

i  also see big problems here:

1. what DarkAGeS says
2. if the x11 vtc miners will sell the coins (and some will most definitely) we have even more sell pressure ..

i think mining x11 coins, sell them and buy scrypt-n hashes to mine vtc is a much better solution:

1. the diff is not going down that much -> less interesting for multipools
2. you still support the vtc network because you are still mining vtc (if you mine with your own workers, or if you buy hashes to mine is almost the same)

think about it and choose wisely if you realy wanna support vtc over another algo!

number of mined coins if allways the same isnt it ? it will just be in better hands Wink
    That's it  Cheesy.
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June 27, 2014, 03:45:13 PM
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Thats what you can read on reddit...

Very nice!

Hello again Vertans!
You so boldy, so bravely asked, “what can I do for Vertcoin?” Here is your chance to help spread the word about this world class coin that we all know has immense potential.
What?
A multi-channel advertising campaign starting with Facebook and ending with a press release (served through a press release service to the wire) after our successful release of Stealth Addresses.
Why?
Because it is time the energy we all have for Vertcoin has a focal point, and through that focal point our energy is accelerated. This is not your sister’s hype we are talking about here – this is meaningful, truthful messaging for a targeted demographic.
How?
We will run this campaign and, upon it’s successful funding, immediately start funneling those funds into Facebook ads. The proof will be in the pudding with screen shots of the ad campaign dashboard. Once we release Steath Addresses, a press release will be authored and disseminated through the wire via a press release service. In case you missed it a while back, here is an infographic I made to help explain some of the key benefits of Vertcoin: http://sspriv.at/vtcinfographic. The ad campaign will be targeted at investors, so we will come up with a succinct piece of copy and an image that conveys the great opportunity that is Vertcoin.
Here is a sample FB ad:
http://vertcoinmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/edd/2014/06/facebook-ad-preview.jpg
Don’t hesitate to pledge to this incredibly important effort.
Please donate to the campaign @ http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/vertcoin-marketing-campaign/ Or directly to the campaign address: Va1tvGjeE5XbKY1XYXeFK2JYqNHCtrW1B8
Cheers,
The Vertcoin Developers
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June 27, 2014, 03:46:20 PM
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Thats what you can read on reddit...

Very nice!

Hello again Vertans!
You so boldy, so bravely asked, “what can I do for Vertcoin?” Here is your chance to help spread the word about this world class coin that we all know has immense potential.
What?
A multi-channel advertising campaign starting with Facebook and ending with a press release (served through a press release service to the wire) after our successful release of Stealth Addresses.
Why?
Because it is time the energy we all have for Vertcoin has a focal point, and through that focal point our energy is accelerated. This is not your sister’s hype we are talking about here – this is meaningful, truthful messaging for a targeted demographic.
How?
We will run this campaign and, upon it’s successful funding, immediately start funneling those funds into Facebook ads. The proof will be in the pudding with screen shots of the ad campaign dashboard. Once we release Steath Addresses, a press release will be authored and disseminated through the wire via a press release service. In case you missed it a while back, here is an infographic I made to help explain some of the key benefits of Vertcoin: http://sspriv.at/vtcinfographic. The ad campaign will be targeted at investors, so we will come up with a succinct piece of copy and an image that conveys the great opportunity that is Vertcoin.
Here is a sample FB ad:
http://vertcoinmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/edd/2014/06/facebook-ad-preview.jpg
Don’t hesitate to pledge to this incredibly important effort.
Please donate to the campaign @ http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/vertcoin-marketing-campaign/ Or directly to the campaign address: Va1tvGjeE5XbKY1XYXeFK2JYqNHCtrW1B8
Cheers,
The Vertcoin Developers

@dev: Can you please confirm it also here? Thanks. I will then send my donation
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June 27, 2014, 03:51:43 PM
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Thats what you can read on reddit...

Very nice!

Hello again Vertans!
You so boldy, so bravely asked, “what can I do for Vertcoin?” Here is your chance to help spread the word about this world class coin that we all know has immense potential.
What?
A multi-channel advertising campaign starting with Facebook and ending with a press release (served through a press release service to the wire) after our successful release of Stealth Addresses.
Why?
Because it is time the energy we all have for Vertcoin has a focal point, and through that focal point our energy is accelerated. This is not your sister’s hype we are talking about here – this is meaningful, truthful messaging for a targeted demographic.
How?
We will run this campaign and, upon it’s successful funding, immediately start funneling those funds into Facebook ads. The proof will be in the pudding with screen shots of the ad campaign dashboard. Once we release Steath Addresses, a press release will be authored and disseminated through the wire via a press release service. In case you missed it a while back, here is an infographic I made to help explain some of the key benefits of Vertcoin: http://sspriv.at/vtcinfographic. The ad campaign will be targeted at investors, so we will come up with a succinct piece of copy and an image that conveys the great opportunity that is Vertcoin.
Here is a sample FB ad:
http://vertcoinmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/edd/2014/06/facebook-ad-preview.jpg
Don’t hesitate to pledge to this incredibly important effort.
Please donate to the campaign @ http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/vertcoin-marketing-campaign/ Or directly to the campaign address: Va1tvGjeE5XbKY1XYXeFK2JYqNHCtrW1B8
Cheers,
The Vertcoin Developers

@dev: Can you please confirm it also here? Thanks. I will then send my donation

Yes, I confirmed.

VTC Stealth Address : vJmt8sF4iySr2RnJdZJdqk7CbJMQzwPwQwUsQwKF27qPE7qv9gfhjYqD6VapALi6jv8j6VKUvXYEto6 xmtxoq9oUyBXbV9XsYdt6sA
Please contact us via contact[at]vertcoin.org only, do not PM.
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June 27, 2014, 03:53:07 PM
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Monocle | Stealth Address | Release Candidate 1
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/298wpl/monocle_stealth_address_release_candidate_1/

VTC Stealth Address : vJmt8sF4iySr2RnJdZJdqk7CbJMQzwPwQwUsQwKF27qPE7qv9gfhjYqD6VapALi6jv8j6VKUvXYEto6 xmtxoq9oUyBXbV9XsYdt6sA
Please contact us via contact[at]vertcoin.org only, do not PM.
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June 27, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
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here we go... sent you ~44VTC... Smiley
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June 27, 2014, 04:19:51 PM
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Thats what you can read on reddit...

Very nice!

Hello again Vertans!
You so boldy, so bravely asked, “what can I do for Vertcoin?” Here is your chance to help spread the word about this world class coin that we all know has immense potential.
What?
A multi-channel advertising campaign starting with Facebook and ending with a press release (served through a press release service to the wire) after our successful release of Stealth Addresses.
Why?
Because it is time the energy we all have for Vertcoin has a focal point, and through that focal point our energy is accelerated. This is not your sister’s hype we are talking about here – this is meaningful, truthful messaging for a targeted demographic.
How?
We will run this campaign and, upon it’s successful funding, immediately start funneling those funds into Facebook ads. The proof will be in the pudding with screen shots of the ad campaign dashboard. Once we release Steath Addresses, a press release will be authored and disseminated through the wire via a press release service. In case you missed it a while back, here is an infographic I made to help explain some of the key benefits of Vertcoin: http://sspriv.at/vtcinfographic. The ad campaign will be targeted at investors, so we will come up with a succinct piece of copy and an image that conveys the great opportunity that is Vertcoin.
Here is a sample FB ad:
http://vertcoinmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/edd/2014/06/facebook-ad-preview.jpg
Don’t hesitate to pledge to this incredibly important effort.
Please donate to the campaign @ http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/vertcoin-marketing-campaign/ Or directly to the campaign address: Va1tvGjeE5XbKY1XYXeFK2JYqNHCtrW1B8
Cheers,
The Vertcoin Developers

@dev: Can you please confirm it also here? Thanks. I will then send my donation

Yes, I confirmed.

10 VTC sent.

Hope it succeeds!



Got my account back! It was hacked. Sorry about it :|
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June 27, 2014, 04:29:53 PM
Last edit: June 28, 2014, 01:59:04 PM by Crypto_EX
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switched to x11 greenpool yesterday a total of 45 mh/s to help alleviate the inflation problem and donated 7 VTC today, i really love the idea of "the people's coin asics out" behind this coin and hope it succeeds !

good luck just stress on the " we will fork it if an asic comes out for it" aspect when you are advertising VTC , this sure will bring in much more attention than what we have now
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June 27, 2014, 04:48:00 PM
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switched to x11 greenpool yesterday a total of 35 mh/s to help alleviate the inflation problem and donated 7 VTC today, i really love the idea of "the people's coin asics out" behind this coin and hope it succeeds !

good luck just stress on the " we will fork it if an asic comes out for it" aspect when you are advertising VTC , this sure will bring in much more attention than what we have now

I think there is already a plan to begin moving away from n-scrypt, as it appears asics are on their way. It seems a bit premature to me, but there was discussion above to move to multi-algo (n-scrypt plus new algo) and then to get rid of n-scrypt.
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June 27, 2014, 04:53:14 PM
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switched to x11 greenpool yesterday a total of 35 mh/s to help alleviate the inflation problem and donated 7 VTC today, i really love the idea of "the people's coin asics out" behind this coin and hope it succeeds !

good luck just stress on the " we will fork it if an asic comes out for it" aspect when you are advertising VTC , this sure will bring in much more attention than what we have now

I think there is already a plan to begin moving away from n-scrypt, as it appears asics are on their way. It seems a bit premature to me, but there was discussion above to move to multi-algo (n-scrypt plus new algo) and then to get rid of n-scrypt.

we should be on top to send a strong message that our coin will not let a single asic in, forking it now will make sure this message is sent and understood by those greedy asic manufacturers
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June 27, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
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50 VTC sent, good luck!
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June 27, 2014, 06:09:04 PM
Last edit: July 05, 2014, 11:59:54 PM by Lucky - Luciano
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I am donated 68.93831113 VTC. Come on, guys, you are do not save vertcoins  Grin ! We're going to win bitcoin!
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June 27, 2014, 06:10:27 PM
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I am donated 68.93831113 VTC. Come on, guys, you are do not save vertcoins  Grin ! We're going to win bitcoin!


what are we sending vtc for? also where? (when?)
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June 27, 2014, 06:17:08 PM
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I am donated 68.93831113 VTC. Come on, guys, you are do not save vertcoins  Grin ! We're going to win bitcoin!


what are we sending vtc for? also where? (when?)
    http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/vertcoin-marketing-campaign/
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June 27, 2014, 06:25:32 PM
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I am donated 68.93831113 VTC. Come on, guys, you are do not save vertcoins  Grin ! We're going to win bitcoin!


what are we sending vtc for? also where? (when?)
    http://vertcoinmarket.com/campaigns/vertcoin-marketing-campaign/

a bunch of people say they're pledging, but when I go to site I see:

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0 VTC
0%    PLEDGED OF 5000 VTC GOAL

are they waiting for a bunch of confirmations or something?
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June 27, 2014, 06:26:24 PM
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yeah... lets buy the cheap VTC and donate it to the dev Cheesy
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June 27, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
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http://bitinfocharts.com/vertcoin/address/Va1tvGjeE5XbKY1XYXeFK2JYqNHCtrW1B8

450 coins already collected for the cause, keep it up Smiley
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