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Author Topic: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer  (Read 1232497 times)
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June 25, 2014, 06:19:50 PM
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i do think that you pointed out everything correctly!

The only REAL problem that makes this situation worse is that the devs don't say anything...

They have addressed everything even the inflation issue. Stop it.

oh... really?

yes...really

please tell me where i can find it? i would appreciate it a lot.

They are discussing it among themselves about bringing it to a vote to the community.

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June 25, 2014, 06:43:05 PM
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Guys, now that I have a little more spare time on hands, I'm looking on build my own node.

I noticed two options around:

Paul Bradley's EasyNode. (https://github.com/Paul-Bradley/EasyNode)

and

V2p Alpha (http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/28revx/v2p_alpha_release/)

Did some of used any of those? If so, which one did you found easier to use/build?

From what I read, Paul's EasyNode is just for Linux? Is this correct?

Any feedback would be great!

Thanks in advance!

Got my account back! It was hacked. Sorry about it :|
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June 25, 2014, 06:44:41 PM
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@cubevtc well said + 1

From reading that I got the distinct feeling we need to get people to understand what VTC stands for and why it's worth holding on to.

We need to educate and make VTC better known. This is where PR comes in. I'm not talking about a article written every month but an actual campaign. Where we release information (different articles, white papers, development, vendors) all at once in a decisive strategic strike.

You cannot create hype without this. Without hype people won't bother to learn more. Without knowledge we're in trouble.  
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June 25, 2014, 06:50:09 PM
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i do think that you pointed out everything correctly!

The only REAL problem that makes this situation worse is that the devs don't say anything...

They have addressed everything even the inflation issue. Stop it.

oh... really?

yes...really

please tell me where i can find it? i would appreciate it a lot.

They are discussing it among themselves about bringing it to a vote to the community.



I hate to agree with anyone named 'Jiggy' (who the fuck are you, will smith from the late 90s? nah nah nah nah nuh nah nah nah), but especially someone constantly trolling with negative comments, but it's not really "addressing" the issue by supposedly discussing it in secret.

With that being said, I personally don't think they should do a thing to the block reward. You bought at a higher price, too bad. Cheap coins and/or a large (according to inflation people) block reward allow for more people to get some coins, i.e. a broader distribution, which goes hand in hand with decentralization. It just feels scammy when "the devs" of any coin try to change the rules of the game to pump the price up short term. If you want a five minute rocket ride go jump on the next piece of shit PoS X11/X13 coin...
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June 25, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
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Let's me summarize for you.

1. Scrypt-N ASIC, We have looking for another algorithm already. We have planed to implement it in GPU and CPU miner after we released Stealth Addresses.

2. Multiple PoW, In order to change to the new algorithm, it must be smooth transition as much as possible. We have planed to implement multiple PoW from Scrypt-N to the new algorithm. According to the plan, it will be Scrypt-N -> New Agorithm + Scrypt-N -> New Algorithm.

3. Multipool & Inflation, We still discussing the solutions with team members to find the best way to solve it, but it will do nothing until we released Stealth Address.

4. Stealth Address, It is in progressing.  

Thanks,
bushido

VTC Stealth Address : vJmt8sF4iySr2RnJdZJdqk7CbJMQzwPwQwUsQwKF27qPE7qv9gfhjYqD6VapALi6jv8j6VKUvXYEto6 xmtxoq9oUyBXbV9XsYdt6sA
Please contact us via contact[at]vertcoin.org only, do not PM.
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June 25, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
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i do think that you pointed out everything correctly!

The only REAL problem that makes this situation worse is that the devs don't say anything...

They have addressed everything even the inflation issue. Stop it.

oh... really?

yes...really

please tell me where i can find it? i would appreciate it a lot.

They are discussing it among themselves about bringing it to a vote to the community.



I hate to agree with anyone named 'Jiggy' (who the fuck are you, will smith from the late 90s? nah nah nah nah nuh nah nah nah), but especially someone constantly trolling with negative comments, but it's not really "addressing" the issue by supposedly discussing it in secret.

With that being said, I personally don't think they should do a thing to the block reward. You bought at a higher price, too bad. Cheap coins and/or a large (according to inflation people) block reward allow for more people to get some coins, i.e. a broader distribution, which goes hand in hand with decentralization. It just feels scammy when "the devs" of any coin try to change the rules of the game to pump the price up short term. If you want a five minute rocket ride go jump on the next piece of shit PoS X11/X13 coin...

how old are you? do you think a jerk like you will make me nervous? keep calm... take your medicine and stop providing your interpretations. i am not interested in your opinion.
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June 25, 2014, 06:53:32 PM
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Let's me summarize for you.

1. Scrypt-N ASIC, We have looking for another algorithm already. We have planed to implement it in GPU and CPU miner after we released Stealth Addresses.

2. Multiple PoW, In order to change to the new algorithm, it must be smooth transition as much as possible. We have planed to implement multiple PoW from Scrypt-N to the new algorithm. According to the plan, it will be Scrypt-N -> New Agorithm + Scrypt-N -> New Algorithm.

3. Multipool & Inflation, We still discussing the solutions with team members to find the best way to solve it.

4. Stealth Address, It is in progressing.  

Thanks,
bushido

Thanks Bushido - I like what I hear. Keep up the great work! It's always nice to hear what you guy's are up to. Sounds like you're addressing many of the concerns here.
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June 25, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
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i do think that you pointed out everything correctly!

The only REAL problem that makes this situation worse is that the devs don't say anything...

They have addressed everything even the inflation issue. Stop it.

oh... really?

yes...really

please tell me where i can find it? i would appreciate it a lot.

They are discussing it among themselves about bringing it to a vote to the community.



I hate to agree with anyone named 'Jiggy' (who the fuck are you, will smith from the late 90s? nah nah nah nah nuh nah nah nah), but especially someone constantly trolling with negative comments, but it's not really "addressing" the issue by supposedly discussing it in secret.

With that being said, I personally don't think they should do a thing to the block reward. You bought at a higher price, too bad. Cheap coins and/or a large (according to inflation people) block reward allow for more people to get some coins, i.e. a broader distribution, which goes hand in hand with decentralization. It just feels scammy when "the devs" of any coin try to change the rules of the game to pump the price up short term. If you want a five minute rocket ride go jump on the next piece of shit PoS X11/X13 coin...

He complained that the devs havent been saying anything, and I pointed out that they have been. Nothing more. We'll see what is decided. I personally want the block reward changed. If it is done carefully, the negative impacts can be mitigated.
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June 25, 2014, 06:54:35 PM
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Let's me summarize for you.

1. Scrypt-N ASIC, We have looking for another algorithm already. We have planed to implement it in GPU and CPU miner after we released Stealth Addresses.

2. Multiple PoW, In order to change to the new algorithm, it must be smooth transition as much as possible. We have planed to implement multiple PoW from Scrypt-N to the new algorithm. According to the plan, it will be Scrypt-N -> New Agorithm + Scrypt-N -> New Algorithm.

3. Multipool & Inflation, We still discussing the solutions with team members to find the best way to solve it, but it will do nothing until we released Stealth Address.

4. Stealth Address, It is in progressing.  

Thanks,
bushido


thank you! and i was serious about a donation address. supply me an address and i will send my donation.
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June 25, 2014, 06:55:40 PM
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Let's me summarize for you.

1. Scrypt-N ASIC, We have looking for another algorithm already. We have planed to implement it in GPU and CPU miner after we released Stealth Addresses.

2. Multiple PoW, In order to change to the new algorithm, it must be smooth transition as much as possible. We have planed to implement multiple PoW from Scrypt-N to the new algorithm. According to the plan, it will be Scrypt-N -> New Agorithm + Scrypt-N -> New Algorithm.

3. Multipool & Inflation, We still discussing the solutions with team members to find the best way to solve it, but it will do nothing until we released Stealth Address.

4. Stealth Address, It is in progressing.  

Thanks,
bushido

Very reasonable.
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June 25, 2014, 06:56:21 PM
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Let's me summarize for you.

1. Scrypt-N ASIC, We have looking for another algorithm already. We have planed to implement it in GPU and CPU miner after we released Stealth Addresses.

2. Multiple PoW, In order to change to the new algorithm, it must be smooth transition as much as possible. We have planed to implement multiple PoW from Scrypt-N to the new algorithm. According to the plan, it will be Scrypt-N -> New Agorithm + Scrypt-N -> New Algorithm.

3. Multipool & Inflation, We still discussing the solutions with team members to find the best way to solve it, but it will do nothing until we released Stealth Address.

4. Stealth Address, It is in progressing.  

Thanks,
bushido


thank you! and i was serious about a donation address. supply me an address and i will send my donation.

You can donate to my address, but I prefer you to keep it until we have multisig address.

VTC Stealth Address : vJmt8sF4iySr2RnJdZJdqk7CbJMQzwPwQwUsQwKF27qPE7qv9gfhjYqD6VapALi6jv8j6VKUvXYEto6 xmtxoq9oUyBXbV9XsYdt6sA
Please contact us via contact[at]vertcoin.org only, do not PM.
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June 25, 2014, 06:58:16 PM
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Let's me summarize for you.

1. Scrypt-N ASIC, We have looking for another algorithm already. We have planed to implement it in GPU and CPU miner after we released Stealth Addresses.

2. Multiple PoW, In order to change to the new algorithm, it must be smooth transition as much as possible. We have planed to implement multiple PoW from Scrypt-N to the new algorithm. According to the plan, it will be Scrypt-N -> New Agorithm + Scrypt-N -> New Algorithm.

3. Multipool & Inflation, We still discussing the solutions with team members to find the best way to solve it, but it will do nothing until we released Stealth Address.

4. Stealth Address, It is in progressing.  

Thanks,
bushido


thank you! and i was serious about a donation address. supply me an address and i will send my donation.

You can donate to my address, but I prefer you to keep it until we have multisig address.

ok, but what difference will it make for you or me?
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June 25, 2014, 07:02:18 PM
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Let's me summarize for you.

1. Scrypt-N ASIC, We have looking for another algorithm already. We have planed to implement it in GPU and CPU miner after we released Stealth Addresses.

2. Multiple PoW, In order to change to the new algorithm, it must be smooth transition as much as possible. We have planed to implement multiple PoW from Scrypt-N to the new algorithm. According to the plan, it will be Scrypt-N -> New Agorithm + Scrypt-N -> New Algorithm.

3. Multipool & Inflation, We still discussing the solutions with team members to find the best way to solve it, but it will do nothing until we released Stealth Address.

4. Stealth Address, It is in progressing.  

Thanks,
bushido


thank you! and i was serious about a donation address. supply me an address and i will send my donation.

You can donate to my address, but I prefer you to keep it until we have multisig address.

ok, but what difference will it make for you or me?

The VTC that you send to multisig address will look more transparent than my address.

VTC Stealth Address : vJmt8sF4iySr2RnJdZJdqk7CbJMQzwPwQwUsQwKF27qPE7qv9gfhjYqD6VapALi6jv8j6VKUvXYEto6 xmtxoq9oUyBXbV9XsYdt6sA
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June 25, 2014, 07:04:18 PM
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how old are you? do you think a jerk like you will make me nervous? keep calm... take your medicine and stop providing your interpretations. i am not interested in your opinion.

Old enough to remember crappy will smith songs about getting jiggy with it. Even old enough to remember decent will smith songs about how parents just don't understand. I am calm, but sadly have no medicine to smoke to get calmer. And fuck you, I'll provide whatever interpretations I feel like; it doesn't look like you're moderating this thread, just dominating it with negative comments.
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June 25, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
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how old are you? do you think a jerk like you will make me nervous? keep calm... take your medicine and stop providing your interpretations. i am not interested in your opinion.

Old enough to remember crappy will smith songs about getting jiggy with it. Even old enough to remember decent will smith songs about how parents just don't understand. I am calm, but sadly have no medicine to smoke to get calmer. And fuck you, I'll provide whatever interpretations I feel like; it doesn't look like you're moderating this thread, just dominating it with negative comments.

yeah you remember will smith from the 90s... the fact that you come up with that is enough for me. So whatever you come up next is entertaining me, because you are too unimportant... Have a nice day.

I am fine with the reaction of bushido. I have been asking for that. I can live with this "crisis" as long as we have this dialogue.
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June 25, 2014, 07:13:40 PM
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Let's me summarize for you.

1. Scrypt-N ASIC, We have looking for another algorithm already. We have planed to implement it in GPU and CPU miner after we released Stealth Addresses.

2. Multiple PoW, In order to change to the new algorithm, it must be smooth transition as much as possible. We have planed to implement multiple PoW from Scrypt-N to the new algorithm. According to the plan, it will be Scrypt-N -> New Agorithm + Scrypt-N -> New Algorithm.

3. Multipool & Inflation, We still discussing the solutions with team members to find the best way to solve it, but it will do nothing until we released Stealth Address.

4. Stealth Address, It is in progressing.  

Thanks,
bushido

Thank you Bushido, much appreciated. Keep up the good work guys, there are many of us here who are patiently supporting this coin without much hype  Wink

VTC Donations : VmdSExjrX9wxVt3mSq2mGXd4bLtNrpyGhJ
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June 25, 2014, 07:18:39 PM
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Guys this is not inflation. This is wafflepool. Look at their VTC address:

https://explorer.vertcoin.org/address/VgoL97E5CEbPJtcfuNHw9B8rEudTgVQeC6

32,000 VTC dumped into BTC so far. Sad

That's certainly not helping things. The constant sell pressure. It's odd that having a profitable coin to mine can be such a crutch sometimes.

In the past few weeks it is more profitable to mine X11/X13 with GPUs than nscrypt.  It's baffling why some miners continue to use nscrypt if the intention is to collect BTC.

With that said I've been mining with X11/X13 to buy VTC.  With VTC dropping I'm also losing dollars so I'll now just hold and wait, no more buys at the moment.
      Where did you get that information? Vertcoin is always more profitable  the mining than example. Darkcoin. This is the current situation on Coinotron:
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June 25, 2014, 07:19:51 PM
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New X11 multipool online in beta mode - you mine X11 algo and get paid directly in VTC! Check out reddit thread here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/292jdj/ann_greenpool_x11_multipool/
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June 25, 2014, 07:23:37 PM
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Exciting times. Looking forward to the future updates. Keep up the great work and keep on sharing with us Smiley
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June 25, 2014, 07:24:53 PM
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Let's me summarize for you.

1. Scrypt-N ASIC, We have looking for another algorithm already. We have planed to implement it in GPU and CPU miner after we released Stealth Addresses.

2. Multiple PoW, In order to change to the new algorithm, it must be smooth transition as much as possible. We have planed to implement multiple PoW from Scrypt-N to the new algorithm. According to the plan, it will be Scrypt-N -> New Agorithm + Scrypt-N -> New Algorithm.

3. Multipool & Inflation, We still discussing the solutions with team members to find the best way to solve it, but it will do nothing until we released Stealth Address.

4. Stealth Address, It is in progressing.  

Thanks,
bushido


thank you! and i was serious about a donation address. supply me an address and i will send my donation.

You can donate to my address, but I prefer you to keep it until we have multisig address.

ok, but what difference will it make for you or me?

The VTC that you send to multisig address will look more transparent than my address.

I want the address as well please.
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